How secure were the secret documents as they were being driven to Florida.

[fightforfreedom]

Holy shit. I'm telling you Trump is in deep shit. When they arrived in Florida who moved all those boxes to the unsecured room, the movers. The most sensitive secrets sitting in a room at a resort for months, it's Unbelievable.

Then Trump and his lawyers lied and obstructed for months. These crimes will be prosecuted.

[Joinfortmill]

1. Agree

[Irish_Dem]

2. Exactly. The van drivers stopped periodically for breaks.

And overnight possibly.

This does not appear to meet the standards for transport of top secret documents.

[rurallib]

15. take a few documents into the bathroom with you

in case they are out of toilet paper. Maybe accidentally leave them.

[Irish_Dem]

16. The boxes were placed in the van in full view during daylight.

How could foreign agents miss it.

Wait until van stops for drivers to eat dinner, then take what you want.

[Sneederbunk]

3. Moving operation probably handled by Ivan and Dimitri.

[Captain Zero]

5. Or, Boris and Natasha

Putin is so proud.

[underpants]

7. He wanted to get them their quickly

So he told someone to call that Russian* moving company

*rushing

[CentralMass]

4. We are assuming he is in deep shit. However somehow it never seems to stick to him.

[VWolf]

12. I don't mind if it doesn't stick

As long as he drowns in it!

[underpants]

6. Well they could have flown with him. The affidavit does mention moving vans

At Russialargo which was part of the tip-off to the source of this document.

[2naSalit]

17. There were photos of a moving van parked in front of...

The WH for a couple days before he left. We were speculating what he was making off with then.

[underpants]

20. I remember that

And the pictures of boxes. I kind of blew that off as DU hyperventilating a bit.....but I was wrong. As always - DU, Wise and Otherwise

[lindysalsagal]

21. IIII REMEMBER THAT!!!

Scared the crap out of me!

[ultralite001]

8. Once upon a time, I did a government move...

The movers marked every box that contained stuff that was valuable...

None of that stuff made it to my new home...

That is all...

[fescuerescue]

9. The Whitehouse moving team is a very highly cleared and vetted organization.

Not like the bums you get with a regular moving company.

All the stuff is guarded by Secret Service. Think how easy it would be otherwise to slip something harmful to the in coming our outgoing President in a standard run of the mill moving service.

Of all the things that worry me, the moving team isn't on the list.

[RobinA]

14. Sooooo

It's probably unlikely that anything just happened to blow out the window as they raced down I95? That's good to know.

[Voltaire2]

10. Was this a rhetorical question?

As far as our intelligence services are concerned, as soon as a TS/SCI doc was removed from a SCIF it became compromised.

[maxsolomon]

11. They weren't secure at all. They were in a Uhaul or some moving van.

Driven by someone who had zero knowledge what was in there. No staff at MAL had any clue what was in there, either.

Trump and the RWNM now have what they needed in the Affadavit: something to distort and lie about.

I still believe the DOJ will find an off-ramp that avoids prosecution; it's not "deep shit". The Records Admin got back what they needed.

Sorry to be cynical.

[fescuerescue]

18. The whitehouse moving team handles that.

All security cleared and supervised by the Secret Service.

The SS is responsible for the President Safety after leaving the Whitehouse. They don't want some disgruntled moving company worker planing a bomb or something that will go into the house.

[maxsolomon]

22. So, you're saying the SS knew about all these docs being taken? And approved it?

And that this "Whitehouse Moving Team" drove it to MAL and put in the basement, then walked away?

[fescuerescue]

23. No. That's an incorrect extension of what I stated.

The secret service protects the President. That also means protecting the property that he comes in contact with or might.

Imagine the President hired "3 men and a truck". And one of those men planted a bomb in the President dresser drawers.

But that doesn't mean that secret service sits down and reads all his documents, nor goes through the first lady's underwear.

For instance, they protected Obama's house in Chicago for years, even though Obama went years between visits.

[maxsolomon]

24. what you said was confusing. i'm trying to clarify.

do you think the SS knew of, and approved the transit of, the boxes of documents in the last days of trump's presidency? did the "whitehouse moving team"?

[fescuerescue]

25. No I don't think so.

The SS doesn't really interfere. They provide protection.

That doesn't mean that they don't overhear things. Of course they do.

TO them. It was a group of boxes.

[kentuck]

13. Yeah, they swapped trucks at a rest area in North Carolina...

Who knows?

Good question. The recklessness of this guy is unbelievable!

[2naSalit]

19. In my experience as a hired driver...

I have hauled sensitive government loads that were minimally sensitive, like mailing labels for income tax forms to be pre-mailed to those already in the system, or the blank forms before being labeled.

And you know what I had to have?

GI Joe riding in the jump-seat with his weapon and an unmarked escort formation like pilot cars for oversized loads, the whole way. Fortunately it was only a four hour drive.

Paid pretty good.