My Trumper customer has gone quiet. But:

[leftyladyfrommo]

her big arguments are against immigration (hoards coming across the Southern border), CRT, and atheletes taking a knee.

She's Irish so the immigration thing is a little hypocritical.
I don't do politics with customers. Arguing with people whose main motivation is hate is a waste of my time.

[SunSeeker]

1. She would be fine with Irish migrants coming across the border.

It's not migrants per se that she hates, she hates non-white skin. She obviously hates Black people, since she opposes CRT and taking a knee to protest police brutality against Black people.

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. She has a black neighbor that she doesn't like to

comment on because it makes her sound racist.

[SunSeeker]

7. I bet. Racists really don't like being called racists.

It really triggers them.

[leftyladyfrommo]

2. She watches rightwing TV all the time. nt

[pwb]

3. I thought trump fixed that. Didn't Mexico build that for him?

Tell her Trump fixed that?

[JenniferJuniper]

6. Oh, they claim

Biden tore down Trump's beautiful wall so they could let in all the migrants, and give them free health care and social security.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. There's the problem right there. nt

[Emile]

5. Does she get upset when a man takes a knee asking

for a woman to marry him? Only Trump can take a sign of respect and flip it upside down.

[leftyladyfrommo]

17. I don't get the hate for people taking a knee.

I like it when someone has the nerve to take a knee because they believe in something good. Seems harmless to me.

[jaxexpat]

24. That Gandhi, still stirring up stuff from the grave.

Next thing you know, they'll be asking for responsible consumption of some other commie crap. I need my DDT and Atrazine to help me feel better.

*That was ALL sarcasm and should, in no way, be interpreted as a promotion for DDT, Atrazine or knee-jerk reactionary anti-communism.

[RicROC]

34. or taking a knee when they genuflect in church?

Taking a knee when meeting the queen or pope or bishop is a sign of respect.
Taking a knee has always been a sign of respect.

Now, if Kaepernick had stood and turned his back on the flag, that is a sign of disrespect.
If one flies a Confederate flag or a swastika next to an American flag, that's a sign of disrespect.

[Treefrog]

8. You don't "do politics" with customers, but

you know what tv she watches, her ancestry, the color of her neighbor, and her stance on athletes, CRT, and immigration?

[canuckledragger]

10. Because Trumpers never shut up when spewing their hatred of others?

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[Treefrog]

12. They talk about tv and CRT?

Most people don't even know what that is.

[canuckledragger]

13. And her customer likely doesn't either.

But ignorance never stopped a trumper from talking about anything!

[grantcart]

14. Yep, Fox watchers are all ginned up about it

Finish business and they want to talk about

Southern invasion
Texas sending migrants to NY in fancy buses
CRT
and Hunter Biden

It must be on a continuous loop on Fox

Happened 3 times yesterday.

[leftyladyfrommo]

15. I sit in her front room for an hour and a half every

two weeks. Her rightwingism is pretty hard to miss. She has a big Trump sticker on her Volvo.

Trump is looking so bad that they are having to find other stuff to complain about.

And gas is $3.26 so that argument isn't working any more. Inflation, CRT, immigration are about all they have left.

[Treefrog]

20. Oh, I didn't realize what kind of customer she was.

Didn't know you visited her home.

My sympathies.

[leftyladyfrommo]

21. It's ok. Her house sits up over Shoal Creek and it's

pretty. Wild turkeys. Deer. Coyotes. Lots of beautiful birds at the feeders. She feeds the birds and a couple of wild cats.

It's a mystery to me how people like her get caught up in this stuff. She has a beautiful house and yard, a good part-time job, social security, money in the bank.

Do they just not ever consider what life would be like under a Trump govt? She would hate it.

[bluestarone]

33. One question here

Is she a religious person? To me THAT would be the answer to your mystery question. I think faith in their God is our biggest problem today. The leaders of this cult to full advantage of religion, and used it to get these idiots to join the cult! Just my opinion here.

[leftyladyfrommo]

36. I would disagree with that. It might be true of the

Bible Believing Baptists but there are lots of religeous Christians that are very anti Trump and his hate and his racism.

You can't paint all Christians with the same brush. Most of those pro Trump minions are really anti Christian and they are doing horrendous damage to all Christians.

My Trumper goes to Mass every week.

And she also goes to the shooting range to fire her guns.

Crazy shit.

[hadEnuf]

37. As long as there is Fox & RW media people like this person will always have an opinion about things

they know absolutely nothing about. And naturally anything that Trump does or has done will be justified, no matter how absurdly, then carefully portioned out for them to digest.

These people gave up thinking for themselves long ago. They merely wait for the next broadcast to tell them the "truth" and what to think.


If this isn't a case of mass brainwashing I don't know what is.

[leftyladyfrommo]

40. They brainwash themselves. They don't need help

from outsiders.

[hadEnuf]

42. Some people are more susceptible to influence than others. it's like planting seeds in a garden.

The plants that sprout are then meticulously watered and fertilized (no pun intended) to fruition.

This crap has been going on for over 30 years. Some people know nothing else.

[mwb970]

9. You will never get through to a conservative.

They are lost and unreachable at this point.

[leftyladyfrommo]

16. I'm hoping some of the conservatives around here

will come around. Typical Missourians are not gun carrying white supremacists.

[mwb970]

18. Good luck with that.

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. Look at Kansas! And they are way more conservative

than most of Missouri.

I have hope.

[2naSalit]

23. What I have found, deep in humperville...

Is that there's a good number of "go alongs" who just go along with the dominant influence in their immediate surroundings in order to have camaraderie. A friend is of that nature, abused woman with a bully for a son to whom she rarely says "no" because he's a relentless bully like his dad.

When I spoke to her yesterday, she was complaining about all the things about rumpism that she hates, she's not real sharp but she's not ignorant either. Sadly, all you have to do is offer info on a topic and she'll find a rationale for it to avoid confrontation with those around her, which includes never mentioning it due to opposition in the crowd.

I see that in the red areas of the country and I find it troubling because it represents the power of male domination that has brought us nearly to ruin. And they may yet succeed.

[jaxexpat]

25. Male domination of Red State country. Astute observation.

And probably not a mere coincidence.

[2naSalit]

31. Nope, it's by design.

[jaxexpat]

45. Well, it's a poor and pointless design, regardless of intention.

I think it will turn out to be more a traditionalism phenomenon. A thing begotten and emerged, fully formed, from the prairie's unforgiving upturned sod. Its where the losers of the confederacy self-exiled in the 1870-90 era, taking their backward hillbilly "gentility", their surliness regarding historical facts and their penchant to recreate the past in a fabrication straight out of "Birth of a Nation". Now, all-a-sudden they're the "sons of the pioneers", plowing and cattle-izing the indian's hunting grounds. Still haven't got their history straight but you're on their shit list if you aren't straight. Public school rooms were the realm of women for a century or so and the resultant "sanctity" of women and their idealized, voiceless and voteless, placement in the scheme of things is reflected in the resentment engendered thereby. Now, they exist only to despise being flown over, solidly behind TFG, this season's current lionized creature of mythic horridness who in his twisted and perverse self reflects the epitome of their self-actualization.

[2naSalit]

46. Pretty much.

Well said!

Yet, weirdos still migrate here thinking they can escape the rule of law and that pesky assimilation to social norms to any degree part. Many still that nobody lives here until they show up. And many most certainly think they will "show us how it's done" when they come careening into town with no knowledge of local culture... which is not appreciated by most of the locals. Most of those incoming are some kind of misogynous type with a skewed view of the social contract and their responsibilities within it. Recognition of the rights of others seems to be optional for these folks.

[JHB]

30. That phenomenon happens in liberal areas too

It's what's responsible for the trope of "a conservative is a liberal who got mugged": someone who was just cruising along with what they absorbed by osmosis, without any real roots and reasons to it, making them ripe for recruitment by con's after a scare.

[2naSalit]

32. Yes...

It's kind of a facet of the shock doctrine.

[Pepsidog]

22. Republican Party platform is a mix of crt, Brandon, trans athletes, pedophiles in pizza shops,

and migrant caravan memes. That’s all they have is memes. My Trumper BIL sent me an article about a murder where a guys head was cut off and the witnesses were characters from South Park. I kid you not, he just read the headline and forwarded the article without reading to see it was Onion type of article. They make no attempt at discerning the truth and just read meme and other headlines. Catchy headline will capture a zombie Republican every time.

[Baitball Blogger]

26. Sounds like one of my in-laws.

[Heather MC]

27. They're all hypocrites Donald Trump is only a first generation American but to hear him tell it hes

Been here since the Mayflower

Anyone that is against immigration being legal and easy is a hypocrite.

Everyone came from somewhere else it lives on this continent. Even the natives walked here from somewhere else

[leftyladyfrommo]

29. Kind of like invasive species. Everything is an invasive

species.

[leftyladyfrommo]

28. My take: Most Missourians are pretty nice people.

Most people in KCMO have farming or small town backgrounds. Many people just did HS so not a lot of higher education.

What rightwing news has done is to get people frightened and paranoid. The Boogy Man is right outside their front door and they and their families are in real danger And that brings out the worst in people.

I still have hope in their innate goodness. And I may just be an optimistic fool.

[Upthevibe]

35. leftyladyfrommo ...........

Irish immigrants at the turn of the 20th century were incredibly discriminated against (obviously, she doesn't know her own history or doesn't care).

Good move to not argue with her. It's just a waste of time.

[leftyladyfrommo]

38. I know. The Irish were the untouchables.

I guess now it's the Hispanics.

[keithbvadu2]

39. Why didn't you Republicans finance/build Trump's wall?

Why didn't you Republicans finance/build Trump's wall?

Because Democrats would not fund it.

Quit telling that Fox lie!

Trump told Moscow Mitch how to get the bill passed without Democrats' support.

Why did you Republicans refuse to finance Trumps wall?

[IronLionZion]

41. I just saw a black person on TV point out his family has been in America longer

than the racist white fellow berating him to go back to Africa. It was fiction but still awesome to see.

Then there are the "illegal immigrant hoards" who turned out to be Indigenous Native Americans.

I've stolen jobs from lots of Americans and I'm a US born and raised US citizen.

It wasn't too long ago when the Irish and Italians were treated badly by the Anglo-Saxons. Oh well, some people want to rise up by stepping on someone else.

[sarcasmo]

43. Your customer watches Fox and they are scaring her with The Caravans.

[leftyladyfrommo]

44. It's another rightwing channel that she watches.

AmericaOne? Something like that. I don't think Fox is rightwing enough now.