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kentuck

(111,130 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 06:56 PM Aug 2022

What was Trump thinking by smuggling so many classified documents to his basement?

The brazenness of the act is mind-boggling.

There are reports that he had White House aides bring boxes of documents to him in the Oval Office and he would go thru them individually and send them back for another.

During the hectic and rushed time of moving out of the White House, those boxes of classified documents were mixed with the other boxes and all moved together to Mar-A-Lago.

He knew what was in the boxes.

When the NARA contacted the DOJ about the missing documents, a subpoena was sent for retrieval of the documents and Trump gave them 15 boxes. But he kept 12 boxes in his basement. Reportedly, someone informed the DOJ that there were more boxes in Trump's basement.

The DOJ attempted to negotiate with Trump for the retrieval of the remaining boxes. They sent a couple of their people to verify that they were still there. They were there.

The DOJ sent a notice to Trump that the documents were not secure and requested that a padlock be put on the door to the basement.

Two months later, the DOJ had received nothing. A magistrate judge approved a search warrant for the FBI to go into the compound and seize all the documents. They believed it was a continuing threat to national security.

What was Trump going to do with the classified documents? Was there some nefarious plan? Did the DOJ get all of the documents?

Trump must have thought that when he gave them the 15 boxes, that would be the end of the story? He would keep the remaining 12 boxes and do with them what he wanted?

It was a well-thought out crime but it did not work out the way Trump planned.

What does he do now?

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What was Trump thinking by smuggling so many classified documents to his basement? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2022 OP
think? Sailingdiver Aug 2022 #1
Yeah, it wasn't well thought out, as with most things... brush Aug 2022 #16
$$$$$$$$$$$$ 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2022 #2
Maybe this never would've happened EnergizedLib Aug 2022 #3
This. GopherGal Aug 2022 #6
His self-entitlement has reached critical destruction mode Blue Owl Aug 2022 #4
He felt entitled to them. iemanja Aug 2022 #5
This sounds like TFG did some actual work while in the WH central scrutinizer Aug 2022 #7
You mean the guy who said he could murder and get elected, and survived 2 impeachment trials? Raven123 Aug 2022 #8
What was going through the minds of Trump enablers as well? PufPuf23 Aug 2022 #9
It is my understanding that the DOJ did also send a subpoena to return Bev54 Aug 2022 #10
I may have misinterpreted? kentuck Aug 2022 #13
I think I read that at Empty Wheel Bev54 Aug 2022 #15
The role of Jared Kushner is being diminished, if not outright omitted. no_hypocrisy Aug 2022 #11
Good point. kentuck Aug 2022 #12
Money, Money, Money! malaise Aug 2022 #14
He was thinking, "This is MY presidency." BWdem4life Aug 2022 #17

brush

(54,209 posts)
16. Yeah, it wasn't well thought out, as with most things...
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:33 PM
Aug 2022

associated with trump, they always ultimately fail. A well thought out plan would've involved copying the material and sending all the boxes back when subpoenaed. An even better plan would've involved having one of his loyal, sycophantic crooks surreptitiously copy the material without it ever leaving the WH.

But that's trump. And of course his insurrection also failed, as did many businesses.

GopherGal

(2,018 posts)
6. This.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:09 PM
Aug 2022

I was going to reply:

"No one has ever stopped me from doing what I wanted before. Why would I face any consequences now?"

plus maybe a little bit of
"Wait 'til Papa Puttie sees this! He'll be so pleased with me, he might even have his buddies forgive some of my debt!"

central scrutinizer

(11,701 posts)
7. This sounds like TFG did some actual work while in the WH
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:10 PM
Aug 2022

More likely, he said, just send them all to Merde da Lago and I’ll get to them eventually.

Raven123

(5,044 posts)
8. You mean the guy who said he could murder and get elected, and survived 2 impeachment trials?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:11 PM
Aug 2022

This was just shoplifting to him

PufPuf23

(8,913 posts)
9. What was going through the minds of Trump enablers as well?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:14 PM
Aug 2022

Beware of making Trump the scapegoat for a crowd of enablers.

Trump did not pack nor carry the boxes. Others knew besides Trump.

Bev54

(10,147 posts)
10. It is my understanding that the DOJ did also send a subpoena to return
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:16 PM
Aug 2022

the documents and it was ignored.

kentuck

(111,130 posts)
13. I may have misinterpreted?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:20 PM
Aug 2022

It was my understanding that the NARA came to the DOJ with a request to subpoena the documents and that was the only subpoena? Was there another subpoena?

no_hypocrisy

(46,517 posts)
11. The role of Jared Kushner is being diminished, if not outright omitted.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:16 PM
Aug 2022

Kushner got FULL SECURITY CLEARANCE. Meaning that he got a good blink at all the documents that were classified. And he explained what they were and why they were important to his father-in-law. And TFG knew what he had to keep after the WH.

BWdem4life

(1,763 posts)
17. He was thinking, "This is MY presidency."
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022

“These are MY documents. I’ll do what I want with them, and nobody will stop me.”

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