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kentuck

(111,147 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:12 AM Aug 2022

Did a witness before the J6 Committee inadvertently mention the "boxes" at MAL...?

Is that how the DOJ came into possession of the information?

It was just a couple of weeks ago that the Committee began to turn over their files to the DOJ?

Or was it a "snitch", a "rat", inside the Trump cabal that turned on him and went to the DOJ?

Who would have known where the boxes were stored at the Trump compound? Most family members probably would have known about them. Perhaps the Secret Service detail assigned to guard the place may have known?

But would any of his advisers, such as Mark Meadows or Cassidy Hutchinson, have known about the classified material stored in his basement?

Have there been any informed opinions about this?

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Did a witness before the J6 Committee inadvertently mention the "boxes" at MAL...? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2022 OP
did Eva Braun... thomski64 Aug 2022 #1
Interesting theory. kentuck Aug 2022 #2
The narrative shouldn't be how the FBI knew, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #3
By not turning over all the classified documents when first asked...? kentuck Aug 2022 #6
Agreed. What is intriguing is the "he who must not be named" type of intelligence elias7 Aug 2022 #10
How about the names of overseas spies? gab13by13 Aug 2022 #13
Right, but I don't see a problem saying, "classified info re foreign assets" elias7 Aug 2022 #20
For one thing, Bayard Aug 2022 #18
But we can say "list of operatives in foreign countries" elias7 Aug 2022 #21
Yep. "Who ratted me out" is the response of a Mafia boss. n/t Whiskeytide Aug 2022 #11
There was a report that someone working at his home was a government plant. Baggies Aug 2022 #4
Confidential Informant is the FBI term dclarston13 Aug 2022 #8
Secret Service Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #5
NARA knew (and needed to verify/catalog) and the media has footage as things were removed BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #7
Thanks for posting! 2naSalit Aug 2022 #14
You're welcome BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #17
Man, he hated moving! kentuck Aug 2022 #16
Everyone certainly realized that BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #19
Maybe it was Cassidy Hutchinson? FakeNoose Aug 2022 #9
Of course not; they've been arguing over the files for more than a year. brooklynite Aug 2022 #12
You are right. kentuck Aug 2022 #15
Possibly - the J6 Committee may not have played everything on tape malaise Aug 2022 #22
Like Alexander Butterfield inadvertently mentioned the "tapes"? liberaltrucker Aug 2022 #23

gab13by13

(21,875 posts)
3. The narrative shouldn't be how the FBI knew,
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:27 AM
Aug 2022

the narrative should be that Trump did not turn over all of the classified documents he possessed.

If the Lincoln Project wants to play with Trump's mind and make him paranoid that's fine with me but that is not and should not be the story.

After the FBI search, immediately the right wing propaganda machine began attacking the FBI, began attacking Merrick Garland to deflect from Trump's crimes.

Donald Trump stole classified documents some of which were so classified the public will never know what they were. That should be the narrative.

If we feel the need to speculate further then we can speculate why Trump stole the documents.

kentuck

(111,147 posts)
6. By not turning over all the classified documents when first asked...?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:32 AM
Aug 2022

Would that be considered obstruction of justice?

elias7

(4,064 posts)
10. Agreed. What is intriguing is the "he who must not be named" type of intelligence
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:50 AM
Aug 2022

What could be the nature of intelligence so sensitive that it cannot even be referred to?

Extraterrestrial aliens? Assassination plots? I just can’t imagine what can’t even be mentioned in broad terms.

gab13by13

(21,875 posts)
13. How about the names of overseas spies?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:55 AM
Aug 2022

How much money could Trump get from selling those documents?

elias7

(4,064 posts)
20. Right, but I don't see a problem saying, "classified info re foreign assets"
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 04:35 PM
Aug 2022

They are saying that there are things whose category cannot even be revealed. What could that be?

Bayard

(22,468 posts)
18. For one thing,
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:33 AM
Aug 2022

Lists of our operatives in foreign countries. Didn't he blurt that out previously?

elias7

(4,064 posts)
21. But we can say "list of operatives in foreign countries"
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 04:41 PM
Aug 2022

The existence of spies not really a secret; every spy novel has them. That category is not unmentionable.

I want to know what kind of things cannot be said.

Baggies

(503 posts)
4. There was a report that someone working at his home was a government plant.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:29 AM
Aug 2022

I don’t know how accurate that report is.

dclarston13

(416 posts)
8. Confidential Informant is the FBI term
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:42 AM
Aug 2022

I would imagine there are several CIs in the org and the castle. But I think this one probably came from the secret service trying to save their reputation. I think they were/are compromised and that will also come out soon. Biden changed his detail when he came onboard, I believe Harris did too.

Kid Berwyn

(15,458 posts)
5. Secret Service
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:31 AM
Aug 2022

They have access to the Family Only Do Not Enter I Really Mean Do Not Enter That Room parts of the Plastic Barbarian Moron Dream Dump Castle and Document Crematorium, Merde-di-Lardo.

BumRushDaShow

(131,203 posts)
17. You're welcome
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:33 AM
Aug 2022

I know back then after J6 and the refusal to concede, let alone attend the inauguration, everyone was "watching" for the moving to start and it did finally happen. What was captured was the "bigger, more prominent" moving of stuff although apparently the ex-FLOTUS had already been "moving" stuff for a couple months by then (per one of the articles)!

BumRushDaShow

(131,203 posts)
19. Everyone certainly realized that
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:36 AM
Aug 2022

It had gotten down to the wire because Biden was gearing up to get the "deep cleaning" contracts in place and underway in order to sanitize the place! Hopefully they swept every nook and cranny for listening devices too.

ETA - I remember posting in threads about this (the fumigation)- https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/white-house-clean-trump-biden/index.html



FakeNoose

(33,255 posts)
9. Maybe it was Cassidy Hutchinson?
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:46 AM
Aug 2022

Cassidy was one of the WH employees who were on the list to be retained for work at Chump's office at Mar-A-Lago. There were about 6 employees on government payroll to work for him, once he left the White House.

I don't know how long Cassidy actually did remain with the "team." She may have quit immediately after January 6th, as she says. Maybe she stayed in Washington when the rest of them left for Florida. However there's a good chance she was involved in packing up the Eyes Only documents that were secretly removed before he left.

I think Cassidy was THE source, or at least one of the sources. She gave a lot of info to the J-6 committee that was kept down low, not everything was revealed in the televised version.

kentuck

(111,147 posts)
15. You are right.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:10 AM
Aug 2022

That was about the time the DOJ decided to not prosecute the contempt of Congress charge against Mark Meadows.

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