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FalloutShelter

(11,916 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:50 AM Aug 2022

YES the Trump campaign was in bed with the Russians....

This just in from the No Shit Sherlock Desk!

Paul Manafort admits sharing info with the Russians during 2016 Trump campaign

In an interview with Business Insider, former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort admitted he was in contact with the Russians and sharing information during the former president's 2016 presidential run.


*snip*

In the interview, Manafort excused his actions stating he wasn't looking for help getting Trump elected and did it purely to make money, with Business Insider reporting, "Manafort told Insider that he directed his deputy, Rick Gates, to feed Kilimnik polling data via email to 'keep Konstantin informed.' The goal was to use his access to Trump to drum up business for himself.


https://www.rawstory.com/trump-manafort-russians/

Say it isn't so... Manafort did it for the money.
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YES the Trump campaign was in bed with the Russians.... (Original Post) FalloutShelter Aug 2022 OP
"Manafort told Insider that he directed his deputy, Rick Gates, to feed Kilimnik polling data..." Botany Aug 2022 #1
I need to eliminate the word unbelievable from my vocabulary. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #3
The screw job of the by Russia of our elections in 2016 was well known. Russ feingold was @ 90% .. Botany Aug 2022 #8
trump guy sam nunberg "listened to 1000s of hours of talk radio" for trump in 2014 and what investig certainot Aug 2022 #29
Instead of Feingold we all got RoJo who spent July 4th in Moscow. BadgerMom Aug 2022 #31
HRC would have cleaned up as well. triron Aug 2022 #32
Exit polls had in 2016 had HRC winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, and North Carolina ... I don't Botany Aug 2022 #37
Link to insider story Nevilledog Aug 2022 #36
It matters not whether he did it for money, or ideological reasons, or raw political ambition Walleye Aug 2022 #2
SO many traitors so little time. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #4
Manafort has never gotten the punishment he deserves, and never will Walleye Aug 2022 #6
True PJMcK Aug 2022 #9
He should try confession, it's good for the soul Walleye Aug 2022 #10
One little problem PJMcK Aug 2022 #11
I have no sympathy. He should be in jail. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #15
'free market capitalists' (or republicans) can rationalize doing anything they want for money certainot Aug 2022 #22
Yep. I have noticed that making a profit justifies all kinds of immorality. Disgusting Walleye Aug 2022 #24
limbaugh was a main spreader and a 'genius' at listing rationalizations like that, for them to certainot Aug 2022 #30
Seems to be the main principle of the patriarchy Walleye Aug 2022 #40
Gee musclecar6 Aug 2022 #5
Right? FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #7
and if I'm not mistaken.. he brought us Pence? n/t halobeam Aug 2022 #12
You are correct ... he brought Pence to the party. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #13
Traitors often sell their loyalty Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #14
I read that Putin detests traitors of their country, but loves traitors to other countries. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #25
Unfortunately, I believe Trump was/is too stupid to take his cut. Complicit? Maybe not. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #16
Don't kid yourself. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #18
The most appropriate thing possible to do with Trump is to laugh him off the stage. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #20
Nope. That was tried and look where it got us. triron Aug 2022 #34
My idea is large groups of young women to stand around and laugh at him every time he says anything Walleye Aug 2022 #41
Of course it was for the money. Lucky Luciano Aug 2022 #17
What did Manafort expect the Russians to do with his polling data 'feed'? Jarqui Aug 2022 #19
Our eyes did Not deceive us, Russia, Russia, was real. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #21
Treason. Bluethroughu Aug 2022 #23
YEP! It has always been TREASON. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #26
100% Bluethroughu Aug 2022 #27
Corruption and treason are all these people know. sop Aug 2022 #28
This isn't new Novara Aug 2022 #33
Where's the unredacted Mueller report? spanone Aug 2022 #35
Damned good question, that. FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #39
NO OBSTRUCTION! NO COLLUSION! budkin Aug 2022 #38
Manafort owed the Russian Mob millions. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #42
Effing- A- Right! FalloutShelter Aug 2022 #43
Knr triron Aug 2022 #44
Republicans are traitors Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author EndlessWire Aug 2022 #46

Botany

(70,657 posts)
1. "Manafort told Insider that he directed his deputy, Rick Gates, to feed Kilimnik polling data..."
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:59 AM
Aug 2022

It wasn't polling data but data analytics or what could be turned into data analytics that the Russians
could use to rat fuck the 2016 elections. Every time Trump said "fake news" as per the Trump Campaign
and Russia he was lying and not a God Damn thing is gonna happen.

Botany

(70,657 posts)
8. The screw job of the by Russia of our elections in 2016 was well known. Russ feingold was @ 90% ..
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:06 AM
Aug 2022

... of winning.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

And this admission by Manafort of treason (Russia has been @ war with America for years) will get zero press.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. trump guy sam nunberg "listened to 1000s of hours of talk radio" for trump in 2014 and what investig
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 11:54 AM
Aug 2022

investigators and journos are missing is talk radio.

russian connected davis/manafort were managing the McCain campaign in 2008 and limbaugh ould not support mccain, a disaster, until minutes after mccain chose palin - who had been wooed by russian oil and gas oligarchs. it's fucking idiotic for media not to ask manager/davis about that and possibly using limbaugh support to force palin on mccain. did limbaugh get money/payola for that?

all the times he was on MSNBC nunberg was never asked about the talk radio project. nunberg says he passed his analysis to trump but did that analysis also go to russian trolls? what blowhards in what states was nunberg listening to? the same states the operatives spent time in?

roger stone was working with trump and nunberg at the same time and boasted how he used talk radio in florida in 2000 to stop the recount.

manafort stone trump all owe their GOP/fascist political 'success' to rw radio, trump's neighbor, golf partner, and rw radio pt man, limbaugh, and the russians use of it.

mueller totally missed it, although there were parts of the report that related

BadgerMom

(2,772 posts)
31. Instead of Feingold we all got RoJo who spent July 4th in Moscow.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:02 PM
Aug 2022

Not suspicious at all, right? There’s so much to set one’s hair on fire in this article that it’s hard to mention just one thing. But, here goes. If Russia can reach down to Senate races, why wouldn’t they do so even in midterms?

triron

(22,031 posts)
32. HRC would have cleaned up as well.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:02 PM
Aug 2022

She was winning even Georgia and Arizona plus probably north Carolina and Florida. And the 3 big ones Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Botany

(70,657 posts)
37. Exit polls had in 2016 had HRC winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, and North Carolina ... I don't
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:21 PM
Aug 2022

know about the other states but it looks like the data analytics (not just polling data that Manafort
& Gates knowingly passed onto a known Russian agent passed Kilimnik) was used to rat fuck those
states.

I might be wrong but Manafort's confession of fucking over America and its voters for money and
there by installing Trump into the White House will get zero press coverage but if it was about HRC
and her emails it would get tons of press.

Walleye

(31,156 posts)
2. It matters not whether he did it for money, or ideological reasons, or raw political ambition
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:01 AM
Aug 2022

The fact that he did it for money makes him a traitor, as far as I’m concerned.

Walleye

(31,156 posts)
6. Manafort has never gotten the punishment he deserves, and never will
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:02 AM
Aug 2022

Remember he was partners with Roger Stone back in the Nixon era

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
9. True
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:07 AM
Aug 2022

Manafort actually spent some time in prison. His wealth was hammered. He's probably finished in his so-called business because he no longer has any leverage. He's a marked man.

His life has been upended. He's lost his family. Now in his golden years, he's a nearly-broke pariah.

I can find some modicum of justice in Manafort's fate. Plus, I'm sure there's more trouble coming for him. I suspect the rest of his life he'll be looking over his shoulder in a well-earned paranoia.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
11. One little problem
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:13 AM
Aug 2022

Do you think Manafort has a soul?

I know Trump hasn't got one. But he'd never confess anyway.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. limbaugh was a main spreader and a 'genius' at listing rationalizations like that, for them to
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:00 PM
Aug 2022

choose from

FalloutShelter

(11,916 posts)
7. Right?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:04 AM
Aug 2022

This whole party needs to be flushed! They are all complicit in their silence and acceptance of these traitors... for money.

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
25. I read that Putin detests traitors of their country, but loves traitors to other countries.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 11:11 AM
Aug 2022

.

That is until they serve no further purpose.

.

jaxexpat

(6,883 posts)
16. Unfortunately, I believe Trump was/is too stupid to take his cut. Complicit? Maybe not.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:34 AM
Aug 2022

Yeah, Manafort was profiting off his 'Trump connections', but I could believe that Trump, failing another attempt to do more than one thing at a time, missed his opportunity to grift Manafort's grift.

jaxexpat

(6,883 posts)
20. The most appropriate thing possible to do with Trump is to laugh him off the stage.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:53 AM
Aug 2022

In the most demeaning and dismissive fashion possible, this buffoon must disappear from the national conversation. Hopefully his last days will be spent as an anonymous number in prison, but I don't hold high hopes in that regard.

Walleye

(31,156 posts)
41. My idea is large groups of young women to stand around and laugh at him every time he says anything
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:25 PM
Aug 2022

He really hates being ridiculed but especially by women

Lucky Luciano

(11,267 posts)
17. Of course it was for the money.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:37 AM
Aug 2022

There would be no OTHER REASON.

They don’t adore each other. They only do this for money. By any means necessary.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
19. What did Manafort expect the Russians to do with his polling data 'feed'?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:43 AM
Aug 2022

Send once to show Trump might win is one thing.

Feeding the Russians with the data on an ongoing basis looks far more suspect (to say the least)

Novara

(5,876 posts)
33. This isn't new
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 12:04 PM
Aug 2022

We've known this for some time. Maybe not the details, but we knew the campaign was giving polling data to the Russians.

Kid Berwyn

(15,073 posts)
42. Manafort owed the Russian Mob millions.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:30 PM
Aug 2022
Which is why ALL ROADS LEAD TO PUTIN.



What Malcolm Nance said:

Anyone who has ever talked to a bookie knows that a person in debt never insults the person that they owe money to. So, by bringing this up, and making Donald Trump… Using his natural populous traits. When he used to do worldwide wrestling, he came on as the evil guy with a big check, and then by the end of the wrestling match he would be embracing the guy who was the hero, the good guy. Putin, I’m sure, and his psychologist, and his scholars, saw that he had a draw for the base level American, the Wal-Mart shopping American. Even though he was a brash, supposedly rich guy, he had a way of touching them. I am absolutely certain that this was the calculation that they made, that he was not only popular in Russia, he was the kind of authoritarian Putin would like to fund, because Putin had been funding authoritarian governments all over Europe. To get the United States, and put this guy in as an ally, would just be monumental.

Snip...

Then they found the black book with all of the cash payments in there, which identified that Manafort may have made somewhere between $20 and $70 million of black money that he was money laundering into the United States. The very fact that he would come back again as Donald Trump’s campaign manager, shows a level of George Smiley-John le Carré level coordination, that those of us in the intelligence community just would have to chase down. Because as I like to say, “Coincidence takes a lot of planning.” That’s an old intelligence community dictum.

Continues...

Source: https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/11/22/from-useful-idiot-to-working-asset/

FalloutShelter

(11,916 posts)
43. Effing- A- Right!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 01:54 PM
Aug 2022

Now just imagine if January 6 had worked, and Trump declared himself President. Putin could have walked right into Ukraine and maybe all of EU. Let's not forget who wanted to pull the US out of NATO> it all goes back to PUTIN.

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