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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:44 AM Nov 2012

Police militarization in CO: Cops in fatigues with automatic weapons doing evictions (scary)

Last edited Fri Nov 2, 2012, 06:55 AM - Edit history (2)

"Be advised that everybody on the property is trespassing." So said a Creek County Sheriff Department officer as he ordered activists off of private property yesterday.

He and his fellow officers looked like they were dressed for combat in a war zone, but in fact they had come to evict a woman from her home in Idaho Springs, Colorado. The following photos depict those officers, dressed in combat fatigues and carrying assault weapons, before and during arrests of activists affiliated with Occupy Denver at yesterday's foreclosure defense. (Photos by activist Ambrose Cruz.)

The homeowner facing eviction was apparently underwater on her mortgage with US Bank. She says she told the bank that all she was asking was for another 30 days in the home before an eviction. She needed an extra month in order to find another place to live, she said.

But US Bank and the Creek County Sheriff's Department had other plans, culminating a show of force that thoroughly alarmed activists who had descended on the property to attempt to prevent the eviction.








More on this trend: As with tasers, general principle is: if you fund them, they will use them on you.

Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons

A decade of billions in spending in the name of homeland security has armed local police departments with military-style equipment and a new commando mentality. But has it gone too far? Andrew Becker and G.W. Schulz of the Center for Investigative Reporting report.



Atlanta SWAT team

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/20/local-cops-ready-for-war-with-homeland-security-funded-military-weapons.html

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Police militarization in CO: Cops in fatigues with automatic weapons doing evictions (scary) (Original Post) HiPointDem Nov 2012 OP
Ugh... sakabatou Nov 2012 #1
Gee, they look so heroic... dchill Nov 2012 #2
wtf???? eyewall Nov 2012 #3
It's getting increasingly hard to not think of cops as the enemies of decent citizens villager Nov 2012 #4
They have become nothing more than corporate statist thugs. Zalatix Nov 2012 #7
Exactly. villager Nov 2012 #23
+ a brazillian. Goons and bullyboys. nt hifiguy Nov 2012 #25
Is this what is meant when they say "cowboy up"? MrYikes Nov 2012 #5
its actually the sheriffs mandate to enforce civil rulings from the court loli phabay Nov 2012 #40
Is this a Photoshop? Prometheus Bound Nov 2012 #6
is there a picture there you think's been shopped into the OP? I don't see it. If they're shopped HiPointDem Nov 2012 #9
It was intended as a rhetorical question. Prometheus Bound Nov 2012 #12
At what point do we get to treat the police as a hostile threat to our society's well-being? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #8
Since when do local police have to wear CAMOUFLAGE? Lennie Briscoe despairs. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #10
It kind of looks like a police state. Gregorian Nov 2012 #11
I dont see any automatic weapons. And ooh, they went to the store and bought UCP pasto76 Nov 2012 #13
They're not dressed in police uniforms, they're dressed in what look to the general public like HiPointDem Nov 2012 #14
too bad they actually ARE police uniforms. Because those wearing them are NOT military pasto76 Nov 2012 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #20
Are you supporting Civilian Police dressing up like the military in order to sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #29
terrorizing unarmed peaceful civilians warrprayer Nov 2012 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author warrprayer Nov 2012 #64
the 'general public' doesnt know a thing about the military pasto76 Nov 2012 #18
no, they don't, they're not as clever as *you* so obviously are. they see camo & guns & think HiPointDem Nov 2012 #19
+10 n/t PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #27
Really, many people here on DU are or were in the military. Many, including me, have sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #30
I agree they look ridiculous, especially considering we still claim to be a democracy. In sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #28
It's not the specifics of the gear, it's the attitude behind the gear. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #37
Unless you have X-ray vision, you can't say if they're automatic weapons or not NickB79 Nov 2012 #62
It's CLEAR Creek County. kaiden Nov 2012 #15
How proud those police must feel about what they are doing, dressed like that, using such SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #16
The Authoritarians Among Us get great wood from this. Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #21
there's one in this thread. 'how stupid people are, those are police uniforms'! HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
Yep. Forceful domination of people with violent force makes them cream their pants. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #26
I've been wondering that for a long time. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #32
Same reason we tolerate all sorts of other dicks Scootaloo Nov 2012 #38
Wow, they are brave! hifiguy Nov 2012 #24
Have we had enough yet, America? woo me with science Nov 2012 #31
I know the people involved in this incident very well. That's me on the left in both pics. donheld Nov 2012 #33
We are losing our country. woo me with science Nov 2012 #34
Omg! This needs to be published everywhere. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35
Agreed. woo me with science Nov 2012 #36
Why are you smiling. Why can't you make OPs. Your post is compelling but confusing. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #39
What is confusing to you? donheld Nov 2012 #59
My respect to you and to Occupy Denver, donheld. Thank you for being there to make a difference. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #56
if the court issues an eviction order then its the so job to ensure the possession passes over loli phabay Nov 2012 #41
These are not normal evictions. Most of them are a result of fraud. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #42
i think i did say you need to get the legislature to pass laws and then courts to act loli phabay Nov 2012 #44
also i have no idea what laws would govern wall street as its in new york and prob federal loli phabay Nov 2012 #47
There are laws against corruption. But every time it looks like some of them sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #53
GRENADE LAUNCHERS?? WinkyDink Nov 2012 #43
llooked at the pics cant see any grenade launchers loli phabay Nov 2012 #45
I see another authoritarian bully boy has decided to infest this thread... backscatter712 Nov 2012 #48
lol i guess if you cant discuss facts then insults are all you have. loli phabay Nov 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #51
Kick woo me with science Nov 2012 #46
K&R Much more relevant than the quadrennial clown show we obsess over. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #50
Yup. woo me with science Nov 2012 #58
Who do they protect? Who do they serve? Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #54
Their job isn't to protect you. They're no longer police. They're revenue enforcement agents. Their DaniDubois Nov 2012 #55
Excellent post. Thank you. woo me with science Nov 2012 #57
Full video of Idaho Springs #occupydenver foreclosure resistance eviction Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #60
This is so alarming Generic Other Nov 2012 #61
Older woman with a brain injury, she only wanted 60 days to leave her home. MissMarple Nov 2012 #63
this guy was an ex corrections officer warrprayer Nov 2012 #65

eyewall

(674 posts)
3. wtf????
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:55 AM
Nov 2012

Those are some scary looking civillians there. Especially the old guy wearing Dockers with an Obama button on his sweater.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. It's getting increasingly hard to not think of cops as the enemies of decent citizens
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:56 AM
Nov 2012

....and their best interests

MrYikes

(720 posts)
5. Is this what is meant when they say "cowboy up"?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:24 AM
Nov 2012

I have never understood why police get involved in civil matters. I guess they just like to dress up for Halloween.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
40. its actually the sheriffs mandate to enforce civil rulings from the court
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:59 AM
Nov 2012

Civil enforcement is a big part of the so job description.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
9. is there a picture there you think's been shopped into the OP? I don't see it. If they're shopped
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 06:36 AM
Nov 2012

seems like a pretty good job.

I don't think it's unprecedented:

?1

Police in what look like fatigues at an Occupy protest

http://occupywallst.org/article/live-now-watch-march-rnc/

MA state police going after suspect:

http://somerville.patch.com/articles/heavily-armed-state-police-tactical-team-deployed-to-east-somerville-home#photo-9707885



Anaheim police defending disneyland from demonstrators

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/police?before=1343769913

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
12. It was intended as a rhetorical question.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nov 2012

It is a much more severe picture than any of the police states I've visited. More like a country at war.

Gives me the fucking creeps.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. At what point do we get to treat the police as a hostile threat to our society's well-being?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 06:19 AM
Nov 2012

The way I figure, if you want to dress up and act like a soldier at war, you're asking to be treated like one by the people you are designating as "enemy."

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. It kind of looks like a police state.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nov 2012

What IS the police state test? Brown shirts? Psychos with guns?

Yank the police and military funding, I say. Give them 10% of what they're getting, and they'll still be the biggest armies on the planet.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
13. I dont see any automatic weapons. And ooh, they went to the store and bought UCP
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:53 AM
Nov 2012

universal camouflage pattern. BTW, doesnt even really work, which is why my Army is set to replace it in the next year.

M16/AR15 assault rifles - although many in this forum will tell you that they are NOT assault rifles. You expect law enforcement to be outgunned by very real bad guys out there. Awesome.

I understand they look scary to you folks, but to an Iraq war veteran, they look as ridiculous as any militia out there 'training' for civic unrest or to 'assist local authorities in an emergency'. They look like clowns. They do NOT look military any more than the kids dressed up as soldiers did wednesday night.

uniforms or not, ARs or not, they would have come to evict those people just like any sheriffs deputies. Maybe they would be wearing blue or black uniforms - cause cops usually wear uniforms, right?! - and have handguns actually drawn. Instead of ARs pointing down...

the second pic is nice because the front right guy is smiling. The 3rd pic is laughable with the guy on the left. Seriously. Laughable. He looks like a little kid who put on his dad's uniform and all his hockey pads, and a fly fishing vest. Nerd!

Check out his mustachio. Not in accordance with AR 670-1. Nor is his buddy with the sleeves rolled up. Rolled up sleeves havent existed in my Army for like 7 years.

The part that sucks is people going underwater on a mortgage. But why would you even post about the LE that goes to enforce an eviction notice, and not the banks and financial system that are fucking people like this?

PS - these guys are not dressed for war. You should clarify that is your opinion. I didnt look anything like this when I was actually in that war.
PPS - They are called Sheriffs OFFICEs. Not departments. Sheriffs are elected officials. The non corrections officers in the SO are called DEPUTIES.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
14. They're not dressed in police uniforms, they're dressed in what look to the general public like
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:58 AM
Nov 2012

military uniforms.

get a clue.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
17. too bad they actually ARE police uniforms. Because those wearing them are NOT military
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:45 AM
Nov 2012

Get a clue? guess my experience in an actual sheriffs office AND the Army make you more clueful. Somehow.

sorry Ive let the air out of your hype tire. But Ive been serving this country and my community for many years. My take on what you presented in this collection of pics has a lot more weight than yours. I cant apologize for your lack of doing anything.



Response to pasto76 (Reply #17)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. Are you supporting Civilian Police dressing up like the military in order to
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:17 PM
Nov 2012

intimidate American Citizens? Do you support the Civilian Police being supplied with Military Grade weapons, and if so why?

That 'collection of pics' should never be seen on the streets of any Democracy. No civilian police department should be allowed to use military weapons on the civilian population.

Response to warrprayer (Reply #52)

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
18. the 'general public' doesnt know a thing about the military
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:46 AM
Nov 2012

ive been reading BS like this, from people like you, for over a decade now. You, specifically, are most clueless.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
19. no, they don't, they're not as clever as *you* so obviously are. they see camo & guns & think
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:02 AM
Nov 2012

military -- and that's exactly what they're supposed to think, & that's why these assholes are wearing it.

to intimidate the public, like the militarized mini-dick bully-boys they are.

camo & guns for an eviction. it's disgusting.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. Really, many people here on DU are or were in the military. Many, including me, have
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

family members and friends who are in the military. And guess what, many of them are are sick of people on the Right condoning the militarization of our Civilian Police because they understand why we have a Civilian Police Dept and why we have civilian leadership rather than military leadership.

Do you know why btw?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. I agree they look ridiculous, especially considering we still claim to be a democracy. In
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:03 PM
Nov 2012

fact it is laughable, not them dressed up in their military costumes, but the fact that we still claim to be a democracy.

The intention is to treat American Citizens as if they were the enemy. We ARE the enemy of THEIR bosses, who are no longer the American people who pay their salaries. Their bosses are Wall Street. I believe that Wall Street, NOT American civilians should be paying their salaries so we can hire an actual, civilian police force that works for US.

If you think they do not carry military weapons btw, you need to do some research.

And it doesn't matter what you want to call them, they have beaten and nearly killed peaceful protesters exercizing their 1st Amendment rights. What they SHOULD be doing is arresting the criminals on Wall Street.



 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
37. It's not the specifics of the gear, it's the attitude behind the gear.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:24 AM
Nov 2012

They think they are a military force.
They think that these people are "the enemy" of their military force.
This is unacceptable from civilian law enforcement.

As for your comment, "You expect law enforcement to be outgunned by very real bad guys out there," that's fucking ludicrous. They're evicting people who are late on a payment, they aren't fighting off the motherfucking Wehrmacht.

I'm happy that you served. Maybe though, you should be in less of a hurry to rub off people who want to play soldier, but only have the balls to stomp on poor Americans.

NickB79

(19,355 posts)
62. Unless you have X-ray vision, you can't say if they're automatic weapons or not
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

Those could well be select-fire weapons; you'd need to see if they have the proper selector switches and auto sears installed. And it is legal for police special teams to carry fully automatic firearms if they get the OK from higher up.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
16. How proud those police must feel about what they are doing, dressed like that, using such
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:41 AM
Nov 2012

unnecessary force against unarmed and peaceful members of Denver OWS.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
26. Yep. Forceful domination of people with violent force makes them cream their pants.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know why we tolerate these types on DU.

If I were admin, authoritarianism-advocacy would be a PPR-able offense. People who want to post that trash should do it on Free Republic with the rest of the authoritarian mouthbreathers.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
38. Same reason we tolerate all sorts of other dicks
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:29 AM
Nov 2012

We've outsourced the community standards to whoever clicks the "sure, I'll serve a jury!" button first... most of whom respond to everything with "that's just, like, his opinion, man!"

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. Wow, they are brave!
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

At least when dealing with peaceful protestors, impoverished homeowners and cancer grannies with a little weed.

What stalwart defenders of our country!

Little bullies playing army with real, death-dealing weapons.

donheld

(21,312 posts)
33. I know the people involved in this incident very well. That's me on the left in both pics.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:45 AM
Nov 2012

It has left all protesters and the woman who was foreclosed upon were quite traumatized. We helped her remove her belongings from off the side of the hill Wednesday through Friday. The (New) land owner/bank is promising to trash all that's left behind starting Saturday(today). Some were knocked to the ground. Some had up to 5 AR-14's shoved in their faces.




Yesterday a highly militarized police force arrived at the home of 63 year old Sahara Donahue to evict her from her residence of 24 years. She was petitioning US Bank for an additional 60 days to remain in her home, so she could have some time to find a new place to live, secure her belongings and leave her home with dignity. She came to the Colorado Foreclosure Resistance Coalition and Occupy Denver General Assembly to ask for our help. She knew no one in Occupy Denver prior to reaching out. We immediately started mobilizing to try to get her the assistance she needed and a group went up to her house for the first rumored eviction on Thursday 10/25. When that eviction didn’t happen, we planned an in-town action at US Bank on Monday for Sahara to try to find someone to speak with about her situation, with carpools up to her house later that day as the eviction was said to be scheduled for Tuesday 10/30. Occupiers laid barricades from fallen trees to prevent moving trucks and workers from entering the property and were able to stave off the eviction for a few hours. At 2:45pm ten or more truckloads of police in full combat gear armed with live-ammo AR-15’s, and grenade launchers arrived on the scene & forced occupiers to the ground at gun point. Police then made their way to the house, broke down the front door, threw Sahara to the ground in her own kitchen and pointed their guns at the heads of a mother and son who were in the house with Sahara along with others. They continued to break items in the house as they searched it. They unplugged the modem, which was the only mode of communication as there was no cell phone coverage in the area, in order to stop the livestream and all communications. After the livestream cut out, the occupy denver legal team spent a harrowing hour in communication blackout wondering if they would be receiving calls from the hospital instead of the jail this time. This psychological violence did not stop one brave activist from jumping into the bucket of the bulldozer that was going to tear through the barricades and forced the operator to stop for several minutes. Three arrests were made, two activists were assaulted and all have been released. Many of the people on the ground have survived multiple occupations and riot cop lines but all agree that this was the most surreal and violent state repression they have experienced protesting. There has been overwhelming community support as other activists and concerned people watched the unnecessary militarized drama unfold online. Everyone is asking “Seriously, why are they in military gear?” All captions for the following photographs are actual comments made on the Occupy Denver Facebook Page.

More at: http://occupydenver.org/peacefulvalleyeviction/

I can't make Original Posts or I'd have posted this myself.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
34. We are losing our country.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:17 AM
Nov 2012

Thank you for this additional information.

Wake the hell up, America. When is enough, enough?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. Omg! This needs to be published everywhere.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:27 AM
Nov 2012
At 2:45pm ten or more truckloads of police in full combat gear armed with live-ammo AR-15’s, and grenade launchers arrived on the scene & forced occupiers to the ground at gun point. Police then made their way to the house, broke down the front door, threw Sahara to the ground in her own kitchen and pointed their guns at the heads of a mother and son who were in the house with Sahara along with others.


Someone up thread here was laughing this off as if it was just a show. Maybe he can be forgiven for doubting this as we still claim, falsely, to be a democracy.

I was going to say that this should be an OP. Is there a reason why you cannot post it yourself? If so, I would be happy to do it for you. This is a national disgrace and she should continue to fight the Bank, make them pay for this in court, everywhere she can.

Shameful, disgusting, horrifying. And if we continue to tolerate it it will get worse.

Once again, thank you Occupiers. They appear to be our only hope to stop these attacks on American citizens.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
36. Agreed.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:32 AM
Nov 2012

This should be on the front page of every newspaper and at the top of every broadcast.

We are no longer in the America we are told we inhabit.

donheld

(21,312 posts)
59. What is confusing to you?
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:51 AM
Nov 2012

I have not star because I have no money to donate. Thus I cannot start my own thread.
I'm smiling. Is that not allowed? Sometimes you have to smile through pain. I was surrounded
by people who I dearly love who bring joy to my life in spite of pain.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
56. My respect to you and to Occupy Denver, donheld. Thank you for being there to make a difference.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:45 PM
Nov 2012

Occupy Denver is a strong group. Solidarity from California! Occupy Fights Foreclosures (California), Occupy our homes ATL (Atlanta), Occupy Minnesota, and others join you in the struggle against corrupt banks and their soldier boys.

I watched these pics come in on Twitter that day and it was literally like a punch in the gut. Respect to all who got in the way of this crime. Note that the more militarized and brutal their actions become, the more people will turn against them and the for-profit machinery giving them orders.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
41. if the court issues an eviction order then its the so job to ensure the possession passes over
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:39 AM
Nov 2012

normally the deputy is just there to ensure it passes peacably, most times the evictee is already gone and the possessor just changes the locks. Sometimes if the evictee is still there then accommodation is made to have their stuff taken out and loaded and taken where they want it. In a case like this were someone refuses to leave it becomes a barricade situation, it puts the so in a difficult position as the court order has to be enforced, a lot of times aggreement is made with the possessor to allow the evictee to have time to relocate but if the possessor demands that the eviction goes ahead then the so have to enforce the court order. Now its sop when you have a refuser and a large crowd in support for the SERT to handle the eviction and like in all police work if you dont get voluntary compliance then you use overwhelming numbers in order to ensure that you can control what happens. Now taking aside the individual situation here were there were no weapons a lot of times people resort to the my home is my castle and decide on the feet first approach and i will fight to the death, not often but it happens enough that so around the country dont take any chances. Now to the point about the police not wearing police uniforms its pretty plain to see the police and sheriff rockers on these guys, and remember these are special units that are deployed when there are circumstances that may need their skills due to escalation, and frankly bdus are more comfortable when doing breaches or mass arrests than the standard uniform. Not wanting to get into a fight over this just giving some insight into the thought process behind why. Now if you have a problem with the courts issuing eviction orders then the people to set your sights on is the elected legislatures who pass the laws.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. These are not normal evictions. Most of them are a result of fraud.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 08:08 AM
Nov 2012

That is why they are sending what looks like a real army, armed to the teeth, to stop OWS from interfering in the fraud which they have managed to get away with for several years now without anyone stopping them.

Congress should have immediately placed a moratorium on all foreclosures as soon as the massive fraud in the system was uncovered. But Congress is hopeless when it comes to the American people. They too apparently, for the most part, work for Wall Street.

But finally now the people are beginning to fight back and that is why we are seeing this outrageous show of force on our streets.

Btw, do you know what the procedures are for arresting Corrupt Wall Street Bankers? You are very well versed in the procedures for throwing people out of their homes, but I would love to know how we go about holding the REAL criminals accountable as it's way past time and not one of them has even received a notice that they are under investigation. On the contrary, deals have been made with them to protect them from prosecution.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
47. also i have no idea what laws would govern wall street as its in new york and prob federal
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:02 AM
Nov 2012

But if there are no laws then you need to vote people in who would make them.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
53. There are laws against corruption. But every time it looks like some of them
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:58 PM
Nov 2012

might finally be applied the Government makes some kind of deal with them, pressuring US Attorneys to go along with these deals.

Eg, my friend was wrongfully foreclosed on, the Government has now acknowledged that. She is included in the deal that was worked out with the Banks several months ago, she was told.

She has been contacted by the NY Attorneys office and by the Office of the Currency. Last week they offered here $800.00, yes two zeros, as compensation for the wrong that was done to her. THIS was the deal made with the Banks even when they knew people's homes had literally been stolen.

It's no use having laws when they do not apply to certain segments of the population.

My friend will refuse that insult and continue with the lawsuit against Wells Fargo and their now out-of-business law mill which handled the corrupt foreclosure.

The only reason she still has that option, to sue them herself, is because ONE US Attorney resisted the pressure to accept the first agreement and made sure that option was not removed.

No one is working for the people. OWS understands the Foreclosure travesty and has been working to save homes, in several cases successfully. Now they are being attacked by robo cops in military outfits.

The people are on their own when it comes to massive crimes against them by Wall Street.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
45. llooked at the pics cant see any grenade launchers
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:25 AM
Nov 2012

Now there are tear gas launchers but you realise a tear gas cannister is not a grenade neither is a flash bang.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
48. I see another authoritarian bully boy has decided to infest this thread...
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:10 PM
Nov 2012


Yes, we know, the sight of cops playing soldier and bearing automatic weapons makes you moist.

Response to loli phabay (Reply #49)

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
50. K&R Much more relevant than the quadrennial clown show we obsess over.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

This what they do while we're enjoying the entertainment provided.

 

DaniDubois

(154 posts)
55. Their job isn't to protect you. They're no longer police. They're revenue enforcement agents. Their
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:36 PM
Nov 2012

job is to give tickets and arrest people for victim less crimes, to extort from the taxpayer money for the prison industrial complex. They serve the interests of the corporations and the "homeland" not the families who pay their wages.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

By LINDA GREENHOUSE
Published: June 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.


Complete Coverage: Monday's Supreme Court Decisions

Forum: Issues Before the Supreme Court
The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.


[link:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0|
New York Times]

For anyone confused about what the job of today's police officer is, there's a good book by Richard Stevens, called - Dial 911 and Die

Do the police have the obligation to arrest someone who repeatedly violates a domestic violence protective order? No. Can the police ignore an emergency call for assistance in order to do paperwork? Yes. Do the police have the obligation to respond to a 911 call for help? No. What if they promise that "help is on the way"? Do they then have an obligation to respond? Still no. If the police witness a crime in progress, must they intervene to protect the innocent? No again. ... -- Sarah Thompson, M.D., from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol 3, No 42, October 25, 1999.
[link:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0964230445/disinformation|
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
60. Full video of Idaho Springs #occupydenver foreclosure resistance eviction
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:30 PM
Nov 2012

Anarchaeologist ?@DrBenway2323

Full video of Idaho Springs #occupydenver foreclosure resistance eviction

Generic Other

(28,980 posts)
61. This is so alarming
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

I don't understand why cops aren't bringing social workers with them to do evictions. They look too threatening when compassion is needed.

They become the paid mercenaries of the banks. They should not be placed in that position.

Additionally, all that HS money should have been spent learning to be better peace officers.

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
63. Older woman with a brain injury, she only wanted 60 days to leave her home.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012

And the banks were selling her mortgage without a paper trail.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
65. this guy was an ex corrections officer
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:54 PM
Nov 2012

... and was

in the Army too. Didn't make him any less of a sadistic asshole.



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