To prosecute (Trump) or not...the dilemma?

[Septua]

I keep bringing the topic up because I'm can't accept the explanations for not indicting the bastard. "Dangerous precedent" be damned...he's a dangerous man. It could "spark unrest" or "further divide the country" be damned...the country is already in a state of unrest and division. It could "lead to civil war" be damned...I believe that rhetoric is bullshit bluff.

His crime isn't some petty, two-bit act like taking the White House silverware to Mar-a-Lago when he left. He tried to delegitimize a Presidential election by blocking the certification procedure to remain in power. That in itself, is a precedent which simply cannot be condoned. As noted in the link:

Garland is a very careful, cautious prosecutor and he will ultimately have to decide whether "prosecuting Trump destabilizes the country more than it puts it upright," adds former federal prosecutor and NBC News analyst Joyce Vance, but he and his team already seem to have shifted from opposing the idea to realizing "as the evidence got worse and worse, at some point they just crossed the Rubicon and realized, you've got to investigate."

"You can only shoot people in the middle of Fifth Avenue so many times before someone is going to arrest you and put you in jail," former government ethics lawyer Norman Eisen tells the Financial Times.

The supposed dilemma?

"The core dilemma that confronts Garland is this: He came in wanting to depoliticize the department," certainly "a laudable goal, after the way Barr misled Americans about the Mueller report and all the moves Trump made trying to enlist Justice in stealing the election," Mark Hosenball writes at The New Republic. But "how does he best defend democracy? By keeping the department out of partisan entanglements or by following the law wherever it goes?"

So, Garland is concerned about the image of DOJ? That's the risk?

"If Garland's efforts to depoliticize the department ultimately lead him to put the former president and his inner circle above the law by never approving the indictment of Trump and his co-conspirators in the attempted coup and the insurrection that followed, then no doubt Garland would have undermined his own efforts by allowing the subversion of democracy," Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe tells Hosenball. He thinks Garland is "both smart enough and dedicated enough to democracy" to avoid "that tragic end."

I hope so...

https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1014343/the-relative-merits-of-charging-trump-for-a-crime

[Laura PourMeADrink]

1. Well stated! On one hand, hold him responsible for my

losing my dad ( because he purposely didn't warn
About Covid, early on.) For that alone I want him to rot away somewhere.

If you can't get him on anything he's done, politics be damned, there is zero justice, ZERO.

[ecstatic]

2. Was he concerned about the DOJ's image when they spent US tax dollars to set up Andrew Gillum?

Didn't think so. It's amazing how quickly they can move on some cases. The coup plotters have had nearly two f*cking years to get rid of evidence. It's infuriating!

[sprinkleeninow]

4. comey's stunt just b4 the 2016 GE

[kentuck]

3. Something else they may want to figure into the equation?

It could spell the end of the Democratic Party as we have known it. The majority of Democrats will not support a Party or a President that does not defend our Constitution against such an attack. It simply will not be tolerated.

[kairos12]

6. Exactly.

[global1]

5. I Don't Care That He Was A President Or If He's Gonna Run Again.....

He's a criminal. He has broken so many laws. He spearheaded a coup.

He needs to be held accountable. He should be in jail. Criminals need to be held accountable. You do the crime you do the time.

[Stuart G]

7. If Donald Trump broke federal crimes, then the federal government should indict him & try him

If Donald Trump broke state crimes, then the State of New York will indict him & try him.

(my opinion only,...Yes he broke federal and State of New York laws..& maybe Georgia laws too)

To me it is not that complicated. The prosecutors will figure it out, ain't my job...

[Mr.Bill]

9. I agree.

What would be political is to not prosecute him for his crimes. How does the Attorney General have the authority to decide whether it would be bad politically for the country? If that was true, the president has the authority to pardon him, not the AG. Mr Garland, do your job. Let the president decide about the politics. That's why he appointed you and stayed out of your way.

[Meadowoak]

8. String him up by his tiny balls!

[Stuart G]

10. Yes...I would be in favor of that too!

[kentuck]

11. Has the Democratic "base" run out of patience waiting for justice?

I get the feeling there isn't much patience left?

[EndlessWire]

12. There's no dilemma for me.

The only question for me is if we exile him, to get rid of him, send him to Gitmo, or put him in a Super Max.

If we don't indict his Orange Ass, it says a lot about us, and it ain't good. That would be putting the Orange Turd above the law.

His inciting a riot and then sitting around apparently hoping that Pence would get hung is despicable. Surely, Garland isn't going to let him go?

Garland's allegiance needs to be with following the Constitution and indicting those that attempted to overthrow our Government. Period. If he doesn't like his responsibilities, then let him resign so someone else can protect our country. There's nothing partisan about that. Not hard to understand.

As soon as the J6 hearings have concluded, we need to see movement from DOJ. We are running out of time.

[2naSalit]

13. That anyone is even ASKING...

Is pathetic.

[Chainfire]

14. If a president is above the law, then he is, in fact, a king.

There could be no limits to his or her exercise of power. The only reason for not prosecuting him would be to destroy Democracy and replace it with a ruling monarchy. If Garland finds a reason to let Trump off the hook, then he too is a traitor and should face justice.

I think that it is safe to say that we know, beyond reasonable doubt, that Trump committed crimes. It is time to either hold him responsible or return him to power and just skip the pesky and expensive elections.

[Novara]

15. I honestly don't see nearly as much of this debate anymore

So maybe we should quit flogging it?

Most of the headlines I see are not about this false debate, but those in the know saying that for the health of the country, the orange motherfucker has to be prosecuted. In other words, they aren't debating it anymore; they're taking a stand on the side of prosecution.

Messaging matters. Repeat something often enough and people end up believing it and agreeing with it. This is what I'm seeing: prosecute the motherfucker. I am not seeing much debate anymore. The message is on the side of action, not inaction.