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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 07:56 AM Jul 2022

Why do police fear unarmed blacks more than armed, white, active shooters?

Has there ever been a sound study of number of black, unarmed (even sleeping) women and men? How many unarmed black men have had police empty their guns into their bodies vs white shooters who have been taken into custody without so much as a scratch? Why is there such fear of black "gangs" vs armed white "gangs" After all crime rates are higher in black neighborhoods than in white neighborhoods and this crime is mostly black on black crime. The crime that takes place in white neighborhoods is not usually committed by blacks but white, organized crime groups whose crimes do not get publicized like petty crimes in black neighborhoods. Tragically, the gun killings in black cities are mostly blacks killing innocent blacks.

If a shooter or armed woman or man is "considered" to be white, they are much less likely to be shot and killed by police, even if they have actually shot and killed a policeman. Where are the statistics to either prove or refute my thinking? If this is not the case, I sure would like to the numbers. How many police or other law enforcement have been killed by blacks vs whites in the past 5, 10, 20 years?

A Google search resulted in some studies but they were incomplete, and not showing groupings as I have described. Maybe I missed something?

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Why do police fear unarmed blacks more than armed, white, active shooters? (Original Post) Samrob Jul 2022 OP
Is it because many of them hate the former and are frightened of the latter? Magoo48 Jul 2022 #1
It's a lot to parse through but AkFemDem Jul 2022 #2
Wrong question. Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #3
This is not going away soon. Swede Jul 2022 #4
Most of our really violent crime happens in or near the leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #5

AkFemDem

(1,752 posts)
2. It's a lot to parse through but
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jul 2022

This study tried to do just this.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1903856116

What they found is the current reporting system lacks uniformity (nationwide) so the data is almost impossible to quantify-

“although we find no overall evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities in fatal shootings, when focusing on different subtypes of shootings (e.g., unarmed shootings or “suicide by cop”), data are too uncertain to draw firm conclusions. We highlight the need to enforce federal policies that record both officer and civilian information in FOIS.”

Voltaire2

(12,191 posts)
3. Wrong question.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jul 2022

in order to successfully kill people, the police are explicitly trained to state that they felt threatened at the moment they used deadly force. This allows them to avoid criminal liability. Fear is of course not really what is going on. They know how to get away with murder.

A better question is how do we reform law enforcement without falling into the ‘defund the police’ messaging trap?

leftyladyfrommo

(18,738 posts)
5. Most of our really violent crime happens in or near the
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jul 2022

Hood. It's the gangs and the drug trade. And the police are absolutely right to be scared of those people. Some of those people are really bad news. And they are moving millions in drugs so they are really dangerous


Most of our other crime is organized thievery which is rampant everywhere. It seems like that got way worse under Trump.

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