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President Biden should go to Ukraine (Original Post) gab13by13 Apr 2022 OP
Sorry, but I disagree nt imaginary girl Apr 2022 #1
Really bad idea Taraman Apr 2022 #2
Is Putin stupid enough to try to kill president Biden? gab13by13 Apr 2022 #3
Is Putin stupid enough to try to kill president Biden? LenaBaby61 Apr 2022 #18
Agree on all counts! FloridaBlues Apr 2022 #30
I believe he would, he doesn't seem to give a flying dewsgirl Apr 2022 #36
I don't know if it is a good idea or not. Srkdqltr Apr 2022 #4
How can it not help? gab13by13 Apr 2022 #8
What should our allies be doing that they're not already? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #29
The Ukrainians need weapons not speeches. Big Blue Marble Apr 2022 #34
No. A tactical nuclear weapon from Russia to Kyiv flight time would be minutes. irisblue Apr 2022 #5
Who says the meeting should be in Kyiv? gab13by13 Apr 2022 #10
Boris could be said, as in the case of Trump, to have been Russia's choice indirectly karynnj Apr 2022 #35
He said he wants to go. I think he'll do it. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #6
Don't think so snowybirdie Apr 2022 #7
Ah shit now we have a new reason to cower 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #9
Eventually, Putin might be saying things like, Mister Ed Apr 2022 #23
Never a good idea for the President to go into a war zone. Sneederbunk Apr 2022 #11
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Apr 2022 #20
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Apr 2022 #22
+10 nt reACTIONary Apr 2022 #26
Biden rso Apr 2022 #12
Pres Biden doesn't need photo ops. lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #13
Will sending Kamala or the Secretary of State, or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs gab13by13 Apr 2022 #15
Zelensky qazplm135 Apr 2022 #45
No, just open the damn weapons spigot. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #14
Fuck no Hekate Apr 2022 #16
I'm not sure that's such a good idea, frankly. MineralMan Apr 2022 #17
Would you go if you were in Joe's shoes? gab13by13 Apr 2022 #24
No nt XanaDUer2 Apr 2022 #19
Nope struggle4progress Apr 2022 #21
Nope FloridaBlues Apr 2022 #31
BAD IDEA! BlueJac Apr 2022 #25
Russia would use that to gain support for the war and make it look like it's more against the US Quixote1818 Apr 2022 #27
It looks like the majority opinion is No. gab13by13 Apr 2022 #28
NO absolutely not! PortTack Apr 2022 #32
Bad idea, I'm bothered some of the media anchors dewsgirl Apr 2022 #33
It seems like all of CNN is there BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #37
I know right, I think it's not a great idea very unpredictable. dewsgirl Apr 2022 #39
They're loving this war just liked they loved tfg. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #46
I know, I hate it. dewsgirl Apr 2022 #47
I think they should re-open the embassy crud Apr 2022 #38
NO. But I think Biden should meet with Putin fescuerescue Apr 2022 #40
Hope not Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #41
Extraordinarily bad idea bottrott Apr 2022 #42
Not! But he could offer to meet Putin somewhere safe, like maybe Iceland FakeNoose Apr 2022 #43
Zelensky Wants Biden to Visit Ukraine Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 #44

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
3. Is Putin stupid enough to try to kill president Biden?
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:09 PM
Apr 2022

Think about the consequences if that were to happen.

President Biden needs to go while there is still a window.

Do it.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
18. Is Putin stupid enough to try to kill president Biden?
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

Look at what he's doing NOW with no end in the foreseeable future as I see it.

That rabid dog is guilty of genocide in Ukraine, and he could care less.

I wouldn't go if I were Pres. Biden whose helping all that he can, and he shouldn't put his life on the line to prove that he cares because we know that he does care about the sanctity of human life. Pres. Biden has to watch out for his health as well. He's under a hell of a lot of pressure from being assaulted daily by the reich-wing in this country, and by most in the so-called "liberal press/media" which is NOT liberal in any way, shape or form.

Srkdqltr

(6,276 posts)
4. I don't know if it is a good idea or not.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:10 PM
Apr 2022

I think he would have gone already if he thought it would help. I think he would go in a heartbeat.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
8. How can it not help?
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:17 PM
Apr 2022

Giving the proper speech along side of Zelenskyy would be powerful, would encourage our NATO allies to step it up.

It's the right thing to do.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
35. Boris could be said, as in the case of Trump, to have been Russia's choice indirectly
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 01:11 PM
Apr 2022

as they backed Brexit. Putin may feel that another PM might be less useful to him.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
7. Don't think so
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:15 PM
Apr 2022

The amount of security and preparation needed for a POTUS visit would deflect from defending the country.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
9. Ah shit now we have a new reason to cower
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:17 PM
Apr 2022

If Biden goes they'll use nukes. I wonder what happens when they threaten nukes if we don't reelect TFG? Will you still cower in fear?

Mister Ed

(5,930 posts)
23. Eventually, Putin might be saying things like,
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:37 PM
Apr 2022

"Make me a ham sandwich right now, or I'll use my nukes!"

We have to draw a line somewhere...

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
13. Pres Biden doesn't need photo ops.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:20 PM
Apr 2022


His presence there would be disruptive. Resources that would be
expended on any visit could be better utilized in other areas.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
15. Will sending Kamala or the Secretary of State, or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:31 PM
Apr 2022

be less disruptive? Will they not expend resources to protect any high ranking American?

Boris Johnson went without causing disruptions.

It's not about photo ops, Joe Biden is a Democratic president.

If you were in Joe's shoes, would you go? Zelenskyy asked him to come.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
45. Zelensky
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:27 PM
Apr 2022

Doesn't think it would be disruptive, he's asking him to come.

I have no idea why folks are so fired up against this idea.

Putin isn't killing the US President.

He's not the Joker.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
17. I'm not sure that's such a good idea, frankly.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:32 PM
Apr 2022

He's a very large target.

It's easy, though, for you to say he should go, isn't it?

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
24. Would you go if you were in Joe's shoes?
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:41 PM
Apr 2022

Why do you think I would not go were I president? Do you know anything about me?

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
27. Russia would use that to gain support for the war and make it look like it's more against the US
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:45 PM
Apr 2022

than Ukraine. Not sure the optics would work out well since this is such a complicated situation.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
28. It looks like the majority opinion is No.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:50 PM
Apr 2022

So then the next question is, should president Biden send someone else?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
33. Bad idea, I'm bothered some of the media anchors
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 01:09 PM
Apr 2022

are there. No way should Biden go, too unpredictable and dangerous.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
39. I know right, I think it's not a great idea very unpredictable.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 01:19 PM
Apr 2022

It does seem like they are all there, or at least have been there in the past month and a half.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
41. Hope not
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 01:36 PM
Apr 2022

The US needs to keep as low a profile as possible. The current Russian leadership will just use it as propaganda to stoke fear of invasion.

We need to keep the weapons and money flowing in, and the rest on the qt.

bottrott

(81 posts)
42. Extraordinarily bad idea
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:06 PM
Apr 2022

Sending the guy who organized the largest NATO response in support of a non- member in history to meet with the president of Ukraine who is actively being hunted by assassination squad's in a country peppered with Russian sabotage groups that cannot adequately protect it's airspace for a PR visit with short-term benefits at best, kind of seems stupid to me. If you think Putin wouldn't take a shot at the leaders of his two biggest adversaries then you are giving way too much credit to a totally evil fascist. Taking out Biden would be a massive coup for Russia that would likely send shockwaves through NATO's current resolve. Harris does not yet have the international chops to keep that herd of cats together and that job may become infinitely more difficult depending on the outcome of elections in France. There are just way too many upsides for Russia in the scenario when reopening our embassy in Kyiv would be for more useful, less disruptive and still send powerful signal that the United States intense to stick with Ukraine.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
43. Not! But he could offer to meet Putin somewhere safe, like maybe Iceland
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:13 PM
Apr 2022

If Putin and Biden agree to meet in a safe place, then maybe Zelenskyy (or one of his advisors) could be included at the last minute. If not, then maybe they could have a Zoomer with Zelenskyy, who stays home in a safe place.

However Joe Biden should never set foot on Ukraine or Russian soil while this is going on.

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