We need to stop it now.

[cayugafalls]

The republicans have latched onto Nazi talking points and propaganda techniques and are not going to let go.

Let’s recap.

The republicans say democrats are demon, evil, pedophiles who sacrifice children and drink their blood.

Let that sink in. Why? Because they now say it out loud at EVERY opportunity. It is the new norm for their party and we seem to just be shrugging it off and calling it crazy talk.

BULLSHIT, it is dangerous propaganda designed to dehumanize a perceived threat so that mass executions will seem normal.

This is what the Nazi propaganda machine did to those they deemed “others”. The Nazi propaganda machine demonized and dehumanized the people who they targeted in order to give their followers a common enemy, so that the “cleansing” could begin. It is an old tactic used by vicious leaders.

Look at Ukraine. Look at what Putin and his army are doing. Look at TFG and his followers.

It is happening here. Just look at the news.

And nobody is calling them out. Nobody is calling them Nazi propagandists. Nobody is telling them they are using the same tactics the Nazi machine used to dehumanize the “other”.

Nobody.

Oh, sure, a few of the good one’s on our side are calling them out, but it needs to be SAID. Say the words. They want to label me a pedophile. So be it.

I’ll label them Nazi Propagandist. I’ll say it every time they speak ill of our party and liberals in general.

Nazi Propagandist, every last one of them.

GOP > Germany’s Old Party…

Time to fight like we mean it. Words are a very powerful weapon and we need to use words against them.

There is still time to turn this around, but our leaders need to start calling them out.

Good trouble.

[elleng]

1. Yes! 'Time to fight like we mean it!

Words are a very powerful weapon and we need to use words against them.

There is still time to turn this around, but our leaders need to start calling them out.

Good trouble.'

[cayugafalls]

2. Thanks, I just had to get that little rant off my chest...lol

Appreciate the support.

[cayugafalls]

4. We have to say the words. Nazi Propagandists. Make it stick.

They need to be relegated to the bowels of history.

[Probatim]

24. I aim to misbehave...

[roamer65]

5. Shades of late 1939 to 1941.

The Repukes were fascist loving traitors back then with their America First bullshit.

Pearl Harbor drove them back into hiding.

[cayugafalls]

28. Exactly! Now they are being associated with Putin and they embrace it. Call them a Nazi and they

will stop loving it.

Make them abhor what they have become.

Every time we say they are the party of Putin they love it...strong man on horse, hell yea!

Fuck that. Putin is a Nazi bent on genocide right BEFORE our eyes.

We need to use the CORRECT word association otherwise it won't work.

They are Nazi's.

[Irish_Dem]

6. GOP/Putin propaganda is almost identical.

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We don't realize yet that Putin has installed a puppet government here in the US, the GOP. And they use Putin's talking points.

[gab13by13]

9. You are one of the posters who gets it.

I call them either the GQP or the Putin party, there is no Republican party.

[Irish_Dem]

12. I have been saying this for a couple of years now.

And got arguments. But now reality is slowly dawning I hope.

Putin has done a soft colonization of the US. He got half of the US congress, sitting president, US media in his pocket. Many Americans support Putin.

The GOP and Putin have the same goals. Total permanent power, access to all US assets, and white christian minority rule.

[gab13by13]

14. Yes, it is logical,

a white, male, "Christian," nationalist minority rule cannot exist in a democracy.

[Irish_Dem]

17. The GOP do not want a democracy.

They want what Putin has. Autocratic permanent power.

That is what Trump was going for in over turning the election.

[gab13by13]

21. If we had a fair and balanced MSM

that would be the choice for the next election; autocracy or democracy, because that is the choice.

I get so upset with Trump and his inner circle not being held accountable for an attempted coup on our democracy, it is so frustrating that people cannot envision what America will become with the Putin party in control of government.

I hear from the wait and see crowd that we must GOTV and win the next election and win in 2024, with that said, Democrats today control Congress and the presidency, someone should remind them of that.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Putin, the GOP and the oligarchs own the US media.

It is the propaganda arm of the PutinGOP.

Many Americans do not want a democracy. They want white, male, christian minority rule. They are fine with losing a democratic form of government.

The GOP of course also does not want democracy, they want permanent power.
And the wealthy oligarchs want to pay no taxes and access to all US assets.

The same thing Putin and the Russian oligarchs have.

Even when the Dems are in power, the GOP blocks many of our efforts to govern. Two of our senators were bought off. Biden is blocked at every turn.

GOTV is going to be harder and harder when the GOP has control of the voting apparatus, gerrymandering and voter suppression.

[cayugafalls]

29. However, my theory is, they embrace that term. They love Putin. Trump kissed Putin's ass.

We need to call them what they are, Nazi's.

Putin is also a Nazi, bent on genocide right before our eyes.

Words matter. They can't stand being called Nazi's. That is why they call themselves white Nationalist now, to avoid the association.

We need to bring it back. Make it stick.

Nazi little shits, relegated to the bowels of history once and for all.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

10. Thanks for saying that

Because it's the fucking truth. And the American ogliarches funding the republican party are traitors and I bet a few are in putin's pocket.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Yes American and other nationality oligarchs support Putin too.

[gab13by13]

15. I read an article, I forget where,

that stated that the anti-vax movement originated in Russia, designed to divide Americans.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Exactly. All the hot button topics are out of the Putin KGB handbook.

Create chaos and division.

Make the US look weak, stupid, foolish.

Any of the ridiculous GOP talking points are pure Putin Psy-ops war.

[gab13by13]

22. There was a big fight back in the 2016 primary

between Hillary and Bernie. The Bernie Bros was also Russian propaganda.

[betsuni]

35. Last sentence incorrect.

Susan Bordo wrote an essay about comments from listeners she got after appearing on an MSNBC program to promote her book in 2017. Vile stupid ugly things, the usual that many women were treated to, as well as threats. Not Russian. It was here, too, it was everywhere.

"This is just a taste of the hundreds of comments that were posted after I got ambushed on a show whose name I won't mention. When my husband first saw the comments, he thought they must be from Trump supporters. But no! They are ALL from ... acolytes. ... Receipts abound from feminist commentators and Facebook administrators who got the same sort of treatment. When it first began to happen ... many of us were blindsided. Even given support for a different candidate, we expected people from 'the left' to to have been our allies on many issues. Instead we were lectured to, dismissed, and called vicious misogynist names when we dared to suggest that perhaps -- just perhaps -- what they thought they knew about Hillary might be in part the result of decades of GOP slander, sexist propaganda, and media bias.

"You may be wondering why I'm posting such vile comments. ... I've dug deep into my feelings and motives, and realize that yes, it is out of anger, but not primarily anger over what was written about me after that interview. For the past year and a half, I've watched, heard, researched, witnessed every rotten, disgusting, vile thing that was said about Hillary Clinton, and that continues to be said about her even now. I lived and breathed all that poison, every day, as many of us did."

Being the target of this ugly ignorant hate is not something one can forget. I will never forgive or forget. And it was preventable and not started by Russia.

[Irish_Dem]

43. Anything that creates division, chaos is most likely Putin's work.

[cayugafalls]

23. While I do agree with you, the problem is, they embrace that association. Call them a Nazi?

And they freak. That is why they chose to call themselves White Supremacist's or White Nationalist, to disassociate themselves from the horrors' of Nazi Germany.

We need to use a term that is as abhorrent to them as theirs is to us.

They are Nazi's.

Putin is also a Nazi, bent on genocide.

Call them out.

[CrackityJones75]

27. Whatever they accuse us of is what they are doing

Always.

[Irish_Dem]

32. Yes, a common occurrence with sociopaths. Accuse everyone else of your crimes.

This confuses the everyone, muddies the waters. No one knows what to believe.

Also demonizes the victims.

[gab13by13]

8. I have stopped calling them Republicans

because they are not. They all follow Putin puppet Donald Trump, they are members of the Putin party.

They are very good at projection, especially since the MSM is on their side. The Putin party will claim that president Biden didn't do enough in Ukraine, it will be used in the election.

Minority male right rule and democracy cannot exist together.

[wnylib]

20. The Trumptin Party

Or, Putrump Party.

[cayugafalls]

25. They embrace that association. Words matter. We need to use words that are abhorrent to them.

We need to make it abhorrent to them.

They are Nazi's.

They are not White Nationalist's. They are not Putin Puppets.

They are Nazi's bent on genocide.

[Evolve Dammit]

62. Yes and stop with "conservative." There is NOTHING conservative about them at all. BS misnomer. n/t

[OAITW r.2.0]

11. No time like the Present to support Democracy. Every chance you get. nt

[niyad]

16. Absolutely spot on!

[niyad]

18. Absolutely spot on!

[suncat]

30. I really felt so sad during Justice Jackson's hearings

when the republicans either insinuated or outright lied to her face, calling her a pedophile. That cut right through my heart and brought the kind of tears that sting. She has so much honor and empathy for the human condition, while working to find fair justice in difficult circumstances. And she could not respond to defend herself and her past decisions.

Now, I wish some prominent person (people) could give the fascist republicans the response they deserve. Like make it a 30 minute rebuttal that goes item by item as they attacked her, and clear the lies away. They should be publicly shamed to the same degree they are trying to shame democrats with lies.

I agree, we should not be silent. Bullies need to face swift and consistent rebuttal from the playground to congressional hearings. The only place we should take it with grace is in church or at a very solemn occasion, then followup after.

I just have to add a thought here... we need to put more congressmen (and women) in like Al Frankin. It broke my heart when the press did a mild attack on him, but then a few democrats ran him out of office. My blood still boils over that. He has a special talent for getting to the heart of the matter with the courage and quick thinking it takes to be very effective.

[cayugafalls]

31. Thank you for that heartfelt post and welcome to DU, I cried as well.

It was a shame that we are not yet at the point where blatant racism and fascists' ideology can be called out in real-time by our political leaders.

[suncat]

34. Thanks to you too...

this is a great post, and is something my husband and I talk about every night as we watch the latest news on TV.

I'll post my introduction in a little bit...

[jalan48]

33. We're in power now. Where's our leadership on this?

[blueinredohio]

52. Exactly.

[soldierant]

36. The blood libel goes way, way back, far longer than the Nazis.

IIRC "LittleSaint Hugh" was twelfth century, but I may be wrong, and in any case, the libell is older than Little Saint Hugh, and it is still around, and still deceiving people.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how it could be permanently stopped? Science can't do it - the belief in a flat earth is still strong., although not mainstream. But getting this out of the mainstream isn't enough. It needs todisappear permanently,

Calling it out may mitigate it but will not destroy it.

[cayugafalls]

37. Correct. I did allude to this in my post.

Even calling it the blood libel does not deter it.

That is why I stress the use of the term Nazi.

Nazi is still fresh in memory and even current blood libel believers despise the word. Which is why they prefer the more tame, white nationalist, christian separatist or even patriot.

Call them Nazis'...it is what they are.

[soldierant]

60. Quite right.

Only difference is now, apparently, anyone who doesn't support them is Jewish.

[H2O Man]

38. Recommended.

Well said. Very well said, indeed!

[cayugafalls]

39. I am humbled, good sir.

Thank you.

I value and love your OP's more than you know...

[H2O Man]

40. Well, thank you!

That is so nice of you to say!

[smirkymonkey]

41. Hear, hear!

Well said. I completely agree with everything you have said, although I think we need to fight a bit harder.

[cayugafalls]

45. I also agree we need to fight harder, but we also need to get our messaging on point.

You can't win a war of ideas without a solid grasp of the messaging.

If we simply start fighting, they win. We need to get our messaging shifted and begin to demonize them the way they DESERVE to be demonized, after all, they are fucking Nazis'.

Once we get that messaging campaign in full gear, the fight will come.

Nazis' don't like being called out...

[smirkymonkey]

49. I agree wholeheartedly!

Can't the Democratic Party hire a slick marketing/PR team? We have so much material!! We just need someone to package it and drive the message home. I don't know why we have not been able to do this so far.

[cayugafalls]

51. Marketing and PR is the one area where the republicans have an advantage.

They control vast media outlets.

We need someone with deep pockets to help step up our game.

[betsuni]

42. "Time to fight like we mean it." What does that mean?

"Words are a very powerful weapon"? Oh, after years of Democrats being mocked for being out-of-touch elites who can only write strongly worded letters and do nothing and bullshit about them not "taking on" blah blah blah when "taking on" means yelling strongly worded speeches as if that makes a difference. The myth that if Goldilocks chose just the right leader, that savior leader would say just the right words and everyone would vote the right way. It's a fairy tale.

[cayugafalls]

44. It means to use terms that are abhorrent to them. Stop avoiding the term "Nazi". Label them.

Label them like they are labeling us and don't stop.

Nothing more, nothing less. Pretty simple concept, really.

When any republican calls anyone in our party a pedophile or alludes to anyone as less than human or demonizes anyone, we need to lash out and call it what it is, "Nazi Propaganda". Same technique, different era. We need to start explaining what the republican party is doing. Why they are doing it and bury them with it.

We need better messaging and we need to bury them with this message. If we do not, we will see genocide in this country. It is only a matter of time.

If you think it can't happen here, you are wrong, because it is happening here.

[58Sunliner]

46. On Twitter a lot of posters get it. Here as well.

Dem leaders need to get alarmed and carry that message to the talking heads as well.

[SmallFry]

47. Killing a Democrat is a no go.

Killing a pedophile is acceptable to a lot more people. So lets call Democrats pedophiles.

That is the basis of it. Dehumanization.

[cayugafalls]

50. Exactly.

You get it. It is exactly what the Nazis' did.

Dehumanize the other.

Time to label them what they are, Nazis'.

[Initech]

55. Pretty sure dehumanization is a war crime isn't it?

[cayugafalls]

57. If it isn't, it should be. I could not find anything concrete.

Dehumanizing the opposition has a long and sordid history. It is time we bring it to the forefront and bury it once and for all.

If we can...

[The Jungle 1]

48. Repukes do not care how they hurt America

[Kid Berwyn]

53. Exactly.

Know your BFEE: Like a NAZI

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x133897

[Initech]

54. Oh no, people like Marjorie Greene need to be publicly flogged every opportunity.

Of course they don't say it in public, that's why they go into their hidey-holes on shows like Steve Bannon and Infowars. That echo chamber runs pretty damn deep.

[cayugafalls]

59. Even if they say in in some forum, our leaders should get on the floor and SPELL IT OUT.

Say their NAME.

Nazi.

Make them spill their f'ing lunch.

Leave them sputtering and asking for a take back...then we can simply lay it out. Spell out why we make that connection.

Call them traitors to democracy for their vile PUBLIC comments. On the record.

[Evolve Dammit]

56. x1000! You nailed it. They are rabid and we seem to be stuck in something. No energy or articulation

[cayugafalls]

58. Exactly. We are stuck in witty comebacks and snarky barbs. Time to get real. Nazis'.

Call them the Fuck Out.

Snarky barbs and witty diatribes only go so far.

We need to point to the snake in the corner and shout SNAKE!

Over and over and over...

[Evolve Dammit]

61. The Nazi's do need to be dealt with. In society and especially the military. They should be court-

martialed immediately if espousing neo-Nazi/ White Power communications of any type.