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Autumn

(45,162 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:49 AM Apr 2022

Rep. Bush explains vote against Russian oil ban

People are curious as to why two progressives voted against the Russian oil ban. It has nothing to do with web sites or Russian news sites. They both knew it would pass.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/597770-rep-bush-explains-vote-against-russian-oil-ban/


Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) on Thursday explained her reasoning behind voting against the House bill to ban Russian oil, saying that it “fails to address the underlying problem.”

Bush, one of 17 lawmakers who voted against the bill to ban Russian oil, said in a statement that she opposed the House bill because “it fails to address the underlying problem of imposing sanctions that are not accompanied with a clear diplomatic process for de-escalation, incentives for a ceasefire, and a condition of withdrawal of Russian military forces in Ukraine.”

The first-term Democrat from Missouri added that the push for a statutory ban is “being used to justify even more dangerous drilling at home and increased imports from other authoritarian governments like Saudi Arabia.”

She added that the approach to banning Russian oil “categorically makes our communities less safe” and “does nothing to jumpstart our transition to renewable energy.”


Rep Omars reason for her vote makes sense to me too. I have no problem with either of their votes.
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Rep. Bush explains vote against Russian oil ban (Original Post) Autumn Apr 2022 OP
I have a problem with Cori Bush Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #1
Av lot of people do. But also a lot of people don't. Autumn Apr 2022 #8
There's no class in voting against a bill intended to stop the slaughter in Ukraine. Ocelot II Apr 2022 #13
Totally agree! WA-03 Democrat Apr 2022 #29
Evidently a bill intended to stop the slaughter in Ukraine is actually "being used to justify even betsuni Apr 2022 #66
Yep, there's a lot of that going around these days PatSeg Apr 2022 #27
Their votes were performative and useless. Ocelot II Apr 2022 #2
This type of BS makes me so angry. No explanation works for me. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #3
This is getting old already PatSeg Apr 2022 #30
I think Cori should face a primary challange as well as other Democrat elected who don't vote for Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #41
And it appears that she is facing a primary challenge PatSeg Apr 2022 #49
Excellent, I will send a donation. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #52
Yes, I think that is true PatSeg Apr 2022 #54
I feel that way about a couple of "moderate Dems" who's votes are performative and useless Autumn Apr 2022 #12
I feel the same way about them, but it doesn't justify the performative nonsense Ocelot II Apr 2022 #15
This is called what aboutism WA-03 Democrat Apr 2022 #28
but we neeeed them bigtree Apr 2022 #20
Those two were my first thought when I saw the response to their votes. Autumn Apr 2022 #24
we do treestar Apr 2022 #68
Oh, I think almost everyone here PatSeg Apr 2022 #31
I'd think they'd rightly be excoriated for actually blocking legislation bigtree Apr 2022 #37
It may not be the same PatSeg Apr 2022 #40
It does nothing to accelerate renewable energy initiatives treestar Apr 2022 #69
Yes and more experienced legislators PatSeg Apr 2022 #70
Well said. H2O Man Apr 2022 #44
+1 H2O Man Apr 2022 #42
You are talking about the Senate not the house...I have no patience for Cori's vote... Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #46
I think you meant are NOT performative nor useless, as Manchin/Sinema have actually blocked things Celerity Apr 2022 #71
Yes that is it. And her cute little curtsy which show nothing but contempt. Autumn Apr 2022 #79
That's depressing. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #4
They gave Putinist Republicans cover and undermined solidarity against Russia YorkRd Apr 2022 #5
Exactly. The fact that the bill would pass without their hey-look-at-me votes Ocelot II Apr 2022 #10
Yes and such antics PatSeg Apr 2022 #32
+1 betsuni Apr 2022 #65
I like Bush. SmallFry Apr 2022 #6
I don't think anything will satisfy Rep Bush. Nothing will get done if you always look for the JohnSJ Apr 2022 #18
No doubt that she lets her passion for purity... SmallFry Apr 2022 #23
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Apr 2022 #33
+++ JohnSJ Apr 2022 #35
Agreed. Her reasons are ridiculous. Ray Bruns Apr 2022 #34
She reminds me of a trade group I was in year's ago Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #59
Her "logic" is the problem with Democrats Novara Apr 2022 #7
"Clear diplomatic process for de-escalation" nycbos Apr 2022 #9
That explanation doesn't make sense. Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #11
How do you think the Russians will remove Putin? They gonna vote him out? Autumn Apr 2022 #16
Bush seems to think there's a clear process for de-escalation Ocelot II Apr 2022 #21
Who cares? That is not the point. Russia is massacring people...and Cori bush needs to face a Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #47
I lost track of the times I heard that some vote didn't matter. Then Bidens agenda for the American Autumn Apr 2022 #56
you misunderstand my position... I am a progressive and will vote for progressives and support Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #57
It will be through violence Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #50
I would have liked a more comprehensive bill bigtree Apr 2022 #14
+1 H2O Man Apr 2022 #45
I feel the same way, but in my opinion her voting against it did no harm. She was able to vote her Autumn Apr 2022 #64
Gee to me she is saying that Biden is not taking care of that himself. Even though he is. LiberalFighter Apr 2022 #17
This!!! PatSeg Apr 2022 #36
FFs. Ukraine is the immediate issue. The ones she raises.... brush Apr 2022 #19
But Bush and Omar won't get to show off their progressive bona fides that way. Ocelot II Apr 2022 #22
I know, right? I thought progressivism meant moving forward... brush Apr 2022 #26
Missouri has so little Democratic representation and rwheeler31 Apr 2022 #25
she's in the most Democratic district in the state bigtree Apr 2022 #38
And that is a good thing so we can primary her and keep the seat. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #48
it is quite likely going to be a really ugly primary, unfortunately, between Bush and the main Celerity Apr 2022 #75
If Rep. Bush wants to "jumpstart our transition PatSeg Apr 2022 #39
so someone will leverage this one vote into opposition against the 99% voting the other way bigtree Apr 2022 #43
We clearly are seeing this from a different PatSeg Apr 2022 #51
she'll still have the city bigtree Apr 2022 #58
K&R ck4829 Apr 2022 #53
Timing is important. This vote was just not the time. 2 Meow Momma Apr 2022 #55
They are against all oil -- unless its Russian oil. W_HAMILTON Apr 2022 #60
Yes. Wingus Dingus Apr 2022 #74
Her response makes no sense at all mcar Apr 2022 #61
I don't see her getting on a plane to Moscow to de-escalate the situation... brooklynite Apr 2022 #62
De-escalating is not her job, her job is to vote on legislation. Yay, Nay you know how that works. Autumn Apr 2022 #63
DURec leftstreet Apr 2022 #67
While it might make sense, it can also be construed as a "pro-Russia" vote. Vinca Apr 2022 #72
"De-escalation", "incentives for a cease fire"--as if this is a conflict Wingus Dingus Apr 2022 #73
From reading the responses, well, it's pretty clear Bettie Apr 2022 #76
that's it exactly bigtree Apr 2022 #77
Just glad that someone understands Bettie Apr 2022 #78

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I have a problem with Cori Bush
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:51 AM
Apr 2022

she seems to me to spend more time grandstanding than doing her job. She is my rep and I am woefully unimpressed with her.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
8. Av lot of people do. But also a lot of people don't.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:58 AM
Apr 2022

IMO a Rep should grandstand, it get attention to their stands. Republicans do it all the time but Democrats do it with class. .

Ocelot II

(116,643 posts)
13. There's no class in voting against a bill intended to stop the slaughter in Ukraine.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:01 PM
Apr 2022

This was a bullshit vote that just made them look irrelevant and stupid.

betsuni

(26,291 posts)
66. Evidently a bill intended to stop the slaughter in Ukraine is actually "being used to justify even
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:08 PM
Apr 2022

more dangerous drilling at home and increased imports from other authoritarian governments like Saudi Arabia."

Who is she talking about, I wonder. Conspiracy!

Ocelot II

(116,643 posts)
2. Their votes were performative and useless.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:52 AM
Apr 2022

I get tired of these so-called "progressives" showing off their alleged progressiveness to no useful purpose, and I will be glad to support and vote for Omar's primary challenger in a few months. We're getting tired of her grandstanding in these parts and she might very well lose that primary, but no worries; the seat is safely Dem.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
30. This is getting old already
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:30 PM
Apr 2022

I would like to see our representatives doing their jobs instead of putting on a performance for the MSM and social media. The old "It was going to pass anyway, so I voted against it to make a statement" is really getting tedious.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
41. I think Cori should face a primary challange as well as other Democrat elected who don't vote for
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:02 PM
Apr 2022

Democratic bills. One Caveat is if they are in a red or purple district...which Cori Bush is not.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
49. And it appears that she is facing a primary challenge
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:33 PM
Apr 2022

Missouri Democratic state Senator Steve Roberts.



Roberts said he didn’t intend to run for Congress when he was initially elected to serve in the Missouri Senate, but Bush’s actions changed that.

“It's become pretty apparent to me that Congresswoman Cori Bush is not interested in serving as a U.S. Representative,” Roberts said.

He added: “She made a comment that she wanted to defund the Pentagon. The NGA (National Geospatial Intelligence Agency) is a multimillion-dollar project that's in my Senate seat, in the 1st Congressional [District], those folks don't have a voice.”

snip

“Voting NO on so many issues that affect families in the 1st district like fixing our roads and bridges, clean air, clean water, support for Ukraine during a time of war, and Capitol security after January 6, for nothing more than political theater, clearly shows the Congresswoman is only concerned about Twitter likes and seeking the celebrity status,” (Ryan) Hawkins said in a written statement.


https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2022-03-28/missouri-sen-steve-roberts-is-running-for-cori-bushs-u-s-congressional-seat

So we'll see.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
52. Excellent, I will send a donation.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:38 PM
Apr 2022

This is a safe Democratic seat. If a House Member continually votes in what could be considered an anti-Biden or an anti-Democratic Party way...a primary is the only remedy.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
54. Yes, I think that is true
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:47 PM
Apr 2022

I am sure she is a good person with admirable goals, but there is more to being a congressional representative than lofty ideals. Without patience, focus and pragmatism, a lot of good intentions wither and die.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
12. I feel that way about a couple of "moderate Dems" who's votes are performative and useless
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

and have stopped some important legislation that helps people and harmed President Biden's agenda

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
20. but we neeeed them
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:04 PM
Apr 2022

...where would we be without those moderate dissenters whose obstruction actually holds up bills, not just protests them?

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
24. Those two were my first thought when I saw the response to their votes.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

There certainty is a double standard when it comes to the votes of so called moderates and the votes of progressives.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
68. we do
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:47 AM
Apr 2022

you'd rather McConnell get the gavel? Then these bills would not even come up for a vote.

The progressives just aren't numerous enough to have a real effect. You need to elect more of them and work towards that instead. At least that would be doing something to bring about a result.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
31. Oh, I think almost everyone here
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:32 PM
Apr 2022

is tired of the "moderate Dems" and their obstruction. That doesn't mean more progressive Dems get a pass.

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
37. I'd think they'd rightly be excoriated for actually blocking legislation
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:46 PM
Apr 2022

...instead of this newly discovered standard of attacking protest votes which don't intend to block passage of legislation.

What moderates are under fire for is stripping bills of social spending and energy conservation and climate change provisions in committee, and actually refusing to provide their votes, actually killing legislation or preventing it from advancing, like on Voting Rights legislation.

I've seen our majority leaders make protest votes on popular legislation before. I've never seen the attempt, as against these progressive women who do the same, to suggest there's something anti-party, or damaging to Democrats when they exercise this longstanding practice where bills are not actually threatened and votes worked out beforehand in many cases.

It's just not the same as actually causing a bill to fail, like Manchin and BBB.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
40. It may not be the same
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:01 PM
Apr 2022

but it is still a performance vote at a time when the issues at hand are serious and urgent. It does not make the Democratic party look very good so soon before the midterms and it will absolutely do nothing to accelerate renewable energy initiatives. More Democrats in the House and the Senate would do that.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
69. It does nothing to accelerate renewable energy initiatives
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 06:50 AM
Apr 2022

exactly. The only way is to have fewer Republicans in the Senate. Progressives don't know how to do anything about that, apparently. Never any suggestions or help for how to deal with that. How to get West VA to send a different senator who would actually help. So they end up helping the seat to go to a Republican and for McConnell to be in charge again, making it even less likely anything will be done about renewable energy.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
70. Yes and more experienced legislators
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:28 AM
Apr 2022

understand that better than some new members who come to DC with lots of enthusiasm and idealistic objectives. I'm sure people like Nancy Pelosi look at some of them and think, "I once was as you are now". Over time they learned that positive change takes patience, skill, and compromise, and you don't always get what you want. Rejoice in your victories and live to fight another day.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
46. You are talking about the Senate not the house...I have no patience for Cori's vote...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:06 PM
Apr 2022

I believe Manchin is the best we can do in WVa and runs in a red district, but I believe Sinema needs to face a primary in 24...no excuse for her behavior. We need her now but moving forward, we can do better. We need to elect more Democratic senators going forward. Hopefully, this will happen in 22 and we can end the filibuster and get some things done.

Celerity

(44,576 posts)
71. I think you meant are NOT performative nor useless, as Manchin/Sinema have actually blocked things
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:36 AM
Apr 2022

whether via votes or via refusals to support (thus no vote taken). Massive things like the BBB Act and all the voter protection/rights bills.

Ocelot II

(116,643 posts)
10. Exactly. The fact that the bill would pass without their hey-look-at-me votes
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:59 AM
Apr 2022

doesn't excuse those votes. Yes, renewable energy is important, and yes, the bill doesn't address the issue, but it wasn't intended to. If they're concerned about renewable energy they can work on legislation to promote it, but they can get off their fucking soapboxes and stop voting with the GOP.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
32. Yes and such antics
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:37 PM
Apr 2022

can be used against Democrats in upcoming elections. Obviously, this bill was not about renewable energy and there will be time to address that later. Meanwhile, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is timely and urgent. Is there some kind of orientation course that congressional representatives can take to learn how actual legislation works?

JohnSJ

(92,768 posts)
18. I don't think anything will satisfy Rep Bush. Nothing will get done if you always look for the
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:03 PM
Apr 2022

perfect, and to assume nothing is being done on the diplomatic side is simply wrong

Milley and others have been trying to engage with the Russian military leaders, and the last I heard they wouldn’t even take his calls

Regardless, every indication is that Putin has no intention of serious talks

His actions speak louder than words, and Putin has lied since this whole catastrophe started



 

SmallFry

(349 posts)
23. No doubt that she lets her passion for purity...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:06 PM
Apr 2022

Get in the way of progress.

Seems in this instance she has gone so far that she can’t make a sensible explanation for her actions.

What she has done is given her reason for wanting to continue to fund Putin.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
33. Welcome to DU!
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:40 PM
Apr 2022

"Lets her passion for purity get in the way of progress" - that sums it up perfectly!

Ray Bruns

(4,194 posts)
34. Agreed. Her reasons are ridiculous.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:40 PM
Apr 2022

"a clear diplomatic process for de-escalation"
The Russians and Ukrainians have been talking for weeks, and they are no further along to de-escalation than they were when they started.

"incentives for a ceasefire"
It is pretty clear Putin has no interest in a cease fire. The RA just killed 50 people outside a train station who were waiting to be evacuated.


"and a condition of withdrawal of Russian military forces in Ukraine.”
The only conditions for withdrawal of Russian military forces from Ukraine that are acceptable to Putin is the occupation of the country, disarm the UA, and Zelensky's head on a Pike. None of which the Ukrainians are going to give him.

It's sad to say, but this is going to have to be decided on the battlefield.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
59. She reminds me of a trade group I was in year's ago
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:58 PM
Apr 2022

We had a bunch that just had to push out what they called “the good old boys” and eventually they did only to find that actually doing the job is a whole lot tougher than standing outside complaining about how others were doing it. She “saved” us from Lacy Clay who was vey progressive and had years of experience. Now like in the trade group, they new kids can’t find the light switch.

Novara

(5,951 posts)
7. Her "logic" is the problem with Democrats
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:58 AM
Apr 2022
The first-term Democrat from Missouri added that the push for a statutory ban is “being used to justify even more dangerous drilling at home and increased imports from other authoritarian governments like Saudi Arabia.


Sure sounds a lot like "We can't prosecute Trump because they might prosecute us some day," and "
We can't get rid of the filibuster because maybe some day the republicans will use it against us."

WE'RE IN AN EMERGENCY! People are being slaughtered in Ukraine! Elections are being corrupted in plain sight in America! We've been in a constitutional crisis since that orange motherfucker took office and no one is acting with any sense or urgency at all.

nycbos

(6,061 posts)
9. "Clear diplomatic process for de-escalation"
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:58 AM
Apr 2022

As long as Russians are deliberately targeting hospitals and massacring civlians in Bucha there is no room for a process for de-escalation.


Buckeyeblue

(5,520 posts)
11. That explanation doesn't make sense.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

It's as if she doesn't understand the point of using economic sanctions to impact Russia's ability to be able to afford this war. And to be able to afford future military efforts against others.

We are really trying to make it so bad that the Russians will remove Putin.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
16. How do you think the Russians will remove Putin? They gonna vote him out?
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:03 PM
Apr 2022

That's not going to happen.

Ocelot II

(116,643 posts)
21. Bush seems to think there's a clear process for de-escalation
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:04 PM
Apr 2022

and that's not going to happen either.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
47. Who cares? That is not the point. Russia is massacring people...and Cori bush needs to face a
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:09 PM
Apr 2022

primary over this... not only did she vote against a Democratic bill, but she also undermined Biden's Russia policy. We can do better.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
56. I lost track of the times I heard that some vote didn't matter. Then Bidens agenda for the American
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:57 PM
Apr 2022

people was voted down because two dems decided to side with the Pukes to torpedo his agenda. Yeah, we can do better.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
57. you misunderstand my position... I am a progressive and will vote for progressives and support
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:02 PM
Apr 2022

progressive everywhere I believe they can win. for example, I support Fetterman in the PA primary. I expect all Democrats to support Biden's agenda. I am aware that two Senators have caused all sorts of problems via their lack of support. But the Senate is ours by only two votes and we have to keep them for now...Manchin is the best we will ever do in WVA. As for Sinema, I support a primary in 2024. We also, need to elect more Democrats so a couple can't control our entire agenda. I don't really see a good reason for Cori Bush's vote and given the massacres in Ukraine, I can't excuse this vote. She is Facing a primary and since this is a safe Democratic seat, I have no problem with it.

Buckeyeblue

(5,520 posts)
50. It will be through violence
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:35 PM
Apr 2022

At some point those, or someone, who has access to him will decide to act. Or there could be a public uprising. Or both.

This isn't about democracy in action. It's about someone, or a group, saying they've had enough.

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
14. I would have liked a more comprehensive bill
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:01 PM
Apr 2022

...but pols are all about putting something up for a vote so constituents can see their concern.

It's not a great bill, but I'd do the solidarity thing and vote for it, no matter what I tried to get included.

That this Democrat didn't see it the same way is her personal choice. But it's just sophistry to claim she's against holding Russia accountable, or whatever the complaint against this vote may be.

She stated her reasons, and while I don't agree with her politics over this bill, I don't view her vote as any more political than most of the pols who stood up for this less comprehensive ban.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
64. I feel the same way, but in my opinion her voting against it did no harm. She was able to vote her
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 06:46 PM
Apr 2022

principals and the bill passed.

LiberalFighter

(52,162 posts)
17. Gee to me she is saying that Biden is not taking care of that himself. Even though he is.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:03 PM
Apr 2022

Maybe she should talk to one of her colleagues on a committee that deals with those issues.

brush

(54,564 posts)
19. FFs. Ukraine is the immediate issue. The ones she raises....
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:04 PM
Apr 2022

can not be immediately remedied by a House vote. Ukrainian lives can be saved by a House vote though.

Use common sense and compassion, for God's sake.

rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
25. Missouri has so little Democratic representation and
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:07 PM
Apr 2022

Cori Buss just goes out of her way to make the party look bad. Her ridiculous adherence to the defund the police slogan and constant criticism of her party is getting old. We have a slight chance for a competitive Governors race in this horribly run Republican state, but her antics do not help.

Demsrule86

(69,100 posts)
48. And that is a good thing so we can primary her and keep the seat.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:11 PM
Apr 2022
I wouldn't consider primarying her otherwise.

Celerity

(44,576 posts)
75. it is quite likely going to be a really ugly primary, unfortunately, between Bush and the main
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:32 AM
Apr 2022

challenger, State Senator Steve Roberts.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/state-senator-to-take-on-u-s-rep-cori-bush-for-seat-in-congress-representing/article_489bc89c-dde9-5d72-a74f-fe98fc584efe.html


you can already see where this is headed from the replies (which I will not post) to his announcement tweet

sigh






PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
39. If Rep. Bush wants to "jumpstart our transition
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:55 PM
Apr 2022

to renewable energy", a better way to go would be to help get more Democrats elected to the House and the Senate. If we lose either house, renewable energy initiatives could be set back considerably.

Meanwhile, the Russian oil ban is a different and urgent issue. Such grandstanding will not serve Democrats well in the mid-term elections. We've already seen what "Defund the Police" did in the last election. We lost seats in the House when we should have increased or at least maintained our majority.

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
43. so someone will leverage this one vote into opposition against the 99% voting the other way
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:03 PM
Apr 2022

...really just nonsense, Pat.

PatSeg

(48,462 posts)
51. We clearly are seeing this from a different
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:38 PM
Apr 2022

perspective, which is fine. I just think a more experienced representative would have handled it better. Meanwhile, it is her constituents that she will have to answer to in the fall. That said, she really doesn't know who her constituents will be as the Missouri legislature has not passed a congressional redistricting map yet, according to NPR.

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
58. she'll still have the city
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:39 PM
Apr 2022

...and I think her district will remain largely unchanged by redistricting.

She does have a primary challenge from the 'moderate' state senator whose fellow freshman lawmaker Cora Faith Walker, who died last month, had accused him of drugging and sexually assaulting her.

2 Meow Momma

(6,682 posts)
55. Timing is important. This vote was just not the time.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:51 PM
Apr 2022

Their points are valid but will get lost right now.

mcar

(42,694 posts)
61. Her response makes no sense at all
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:42 PM
Apr 2022

She joined with the worst of the far right to vote no on a bill that is imperfect. Did she happen to name any bill that is perfect?

In the meantime, Russia is slaughtering civilians in Ukraine. But sure, Rep. Bush, stand tall with your self-righteousness.

Autumn

(45,162 posts)
63. De-escalating is not her job, her job is to vote on legislation. Yay, Nay you know how that works.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 05:08 PM
Apr 2022

I doubt she depends on any web site like RT or a message board to tell her how to vote. Contrary to opinion

leftstreet

(36,128 posts)
67. DURec
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:47 PM
Apr 2022

Good for them

What a difference a decade or two can make. If this situation was happening under Bush or Trump...

Vinca

(50,410 posts)
72. While it might make sense, it can also be construed as a "pro-Russia" vote.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 07:39 AM
Apr 2022

Don't they have enough of those from the GOP?

Wingus Dingus

(8,063 posts)
73. "De-escalation", "incentives for a cease fire"--as if this is a conflict
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:01 AM
Apr 2022

wherein both sides are aggressively attacking each other for territory and resources or tribal hatreds. She's either dumb as a bag of hair, and misunderstands this entire conflict as a "both sides need to stop!" situation instead of a clear-cut unwarranted invasion by Russia--or she does understand it but wants to signal sympathy to Russia. Makes me ill.

Bettie

(16,250 posts)
76. From reading the responses, well, it's pretty clear
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:53 AM
Apr 2022

that voting no on a bill you know will pass to make a point is BAD...the most terrible thing ever.

Utterly destroying a bill by taking everything good for humans out of it and then still refusing to vote for it is, somehow good and even noble.

So, "moderate" senators and house members protecting pharma companies and the very rich, ultimately killing good legislation: good, noble, perfect.

Progressive house members making a point on a bill that passed, evil, horrific, the worst thing that ever happened.

Noted and expected.

bigtree

(86,320 posts)
77. that's it exactly
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:20 AM
Apr 2022

...used to be understood by pols and public alike, but like many things these days, post Trump, the norms have been turned on their heads.

Principled, non threatening objections from Dem legislators with solidly Democratic constituencies - basically the heart of the Democratic party, this pol with the largest # of Democrats in her district in the state - treated like the worst of the opposition.

Yet, red state pols who bend to republicans at every opportunity, and actually BLOCK planks of the Biden agenda and have killed several bills and nominations, are treated like sages.

Bettie

(16,250 posts)
78. Just glad that someone understands
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:29 AM
Apr 2022

If it passed, one or two more votes doesn't matter. It passed.

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