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DonCoquixote

(13,642 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:35 PM Mar 2022

Why we must NOT co sign Will Smith

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by MustLoveBeagles (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Now, let us lay all the cards on the table: Was what Chris Rock said awful and stupid. Yes, it was. For the man who literally did the definitive documentary on how Black women are judge by their hair, including those who suffer from hair loss, is foul. (Google "good hair." HE KNEW BETTER.

However, what Will Smith did is something toxic that will reap the whirlwind if it not condemned. I won't even get into the racial aspects: Kareem Abdul Jabbar does that job here:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kareem-abdul-jabbar-slams-smith-105555681.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
and so does Shannon Sharpe:

https://www.aol.com/look-shannon-sharpe-smith-going-185251922.html

and Stephen a Smith:
https://www.aol.com/stephen-smith-reacts-smith-did-133059657.html

I posted these african americans because I know I am NOT qualified to speak to the reality Black men face about stereotypes.

OK, now that this is done, let me get to my point: America has a culture where men are encouraged to use violence to define their manhood: Hollywood of course has helped, but so do a number of media's bad actors. Think of how many of the mass shooters all felt their manhood was being questioned, think of all the bar fights, domestic disputes, and other fights where somebody ends up DEAD. Co signing will is affirming to ever young men that yes, you are expected to use violence, especially for the sake of "your" women.

Let's shoot another elephant in the room: As democrats, we know that one side is very, very good at using the bad ideas about "manhood". If it becomes ok to beat up a comedian, or anyone who says things offensive, they will take that seed and grow a forest. Think about the elections, you think the skunkworks at the gop is not planning to assualt a Jon Oliver or other left comedian and say "he was offending my family!"

Oh hell yes, you know it. Especially since the right wing does not have as many of the top comedians. Picture Dennis Miller smirking as this goes on . Now imagine that some of these folks do the natural inclination to instead of slap, pick up a gun. Sound silly right, ask the relatives of Notorious BIG and Tupac Shakur how silly that sounds.

My point is, we must NOT feed the beast, or it will run rampant. Furthermore, yes, Will smith IS someone who is expected to be responsible: how do you expect people to risk 50 million to film your picture if they think you will go snake whenever Jada gives you a look.

BY THE WAY, it cannto be overlooked that Jada did publicly discuss charting on him, in a manner that gained a lot of publicity. Yes, if a woman wants to do that, it is her business, but it does make this dovetail into the idea that Will needed to prove he was a "man", and that is son, Jayden,. is already prasing him for this.

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Why we must NOT co sign Will Smith (Original Post) DonCoquixote Mar 2022 OP
Who cares?!?! bif Mar 2022 #1
why DonCoquixote Mar 2022 #3
Stephen Smith brought up a good point eissa Mar 2022 #2
Valid points, all... dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #4
Locking thread MustLoveBeagles Mar 2022 #5

bif

(23,509 posts)
1. Who cares?!?!
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:39 PM
Mar 2022

Seriously!

DonCoquixote

(13,642 posts)
3. why
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:24 PM
Mar 2022

because for every stupid deed that is praiosed, there will be five imitators

eissa

(4,238 posts)
2. Stephen Smith brought up a good point
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:48 PM
Mar 2022

Will Packer led the first all-Black production team for the Oscars, only to have it tarnished by Will Smith. His violent, inexcusable behavior truly ruined what was up to that point a great evening.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
4. Valid points, all...
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:26 PM
Mar 2022

I agree that unless this bullshit is denounced, loudly and firmly, it is only a matter of time before it gets out of hand. They have shown, time and time again, that if even the smallest, tiniest thread of societal fraying is exposed, they will latch onto it and rip the whole thing apart. It's been happening for decades but Reagan stepped on the gas. And then TFG came along and rammed it into into warp speed. Honestly, I'm not even sure, anymore, if we can stop what's coming.

Please understand, I am not saying Will Smith is responsible for the decay/destruction of our society. He is merely a symptom. This shit goes on every day in homes and streets across America. He just happens to be the latest high-profile example of toxic masculinity. Before that, it was who... Kyle Rittenhouse? I guess we should all be glad WS used his hand and not a gun. (Chris Rock is, I'm sure.) The next person may not be so lucky.

MustLoveBeagles

(12,290 posts)
5. Locking thread
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 10:27 PM
Mar 2022

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