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(440 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 03:17 PM Mar 2022

So is Putin trying to create a "Third Rome"?

Mussolini tried to make a "Third Rome" (Rome, Holy Roman Empire, Fascist Italy)

Hitler tried to make a "Third Rome" (same same, except with Nazi Germany)

Some nationalistic Orthodox have viewed the idea of a Third Rome, except it being Rome, Byzantine Empire and then Russia

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So is Putin trying to create a "Third Rome"? (Original Post) RFCalifornia Mar 2022 OP
I had read that he wanted to recreate the old Soviet Union. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #1
That could be part of it RFCalifornia Mar 2022 #2
I had not heard that. And I really expect that he will fall flat on his face! He'd better. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #5
Tsar Mme. Defarge Mar 2022 #3
Yep. Just like Kaiser RFCalifornia Mar 2022 #4
He is not creating the myth of Third Rome, he is reviving it. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #6


(440 posts)
2. That could be part of it
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 03:30 PM
Mar 2022

But in his speeches he talks of a "New World Order"

Seems like everyone who says that falls flat on their face

Beastly Boy

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6. He is not creating the myth of Third Rome, he is reviving it.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 03:59 PM
Mar 2022

It is the old claim of the Russian Orthodoc Church. With the fall of the Byzantine empire to the Turks, the Russian Orthodox rulers declared themselves a successor to Byzantium, thus claiming to be the successor to Rome (Rome- Byzantium- Moscow). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_third_Rome)

The Muscovite Romanov dynasty had been pushing this concept for centuries, and Putin also became addicted to their Kool-Aid. He imagines it to be his mission to restore the imperial grandure of Mother Russia.

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