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ColinC

(8,351 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:37 PM Mar 2022

Ukrainian MiGs have been enormously effective. Imagine what more could do.


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Yeah I know this debate is basically dead, but Ukraine's pilots have proven they can use MiGs in ways most people thought unlikely or impossible.



Valerie Hopkins
@VALERIEinNYT
Analysts expected 🇷🇺forces to quickly destroy/paralyze 🇺🇦air defenses + military aircraft, yet neither have happened. Instead,Top Gun-style aerial dogfights, rare in modern warfare, rage above the country.
⁦@MarichkaVareni1⁩ ⁦@AndrewKramerNYT⁩
Andriy, a Ukrainian Air Force pilot.“Every time when I fly, it’s for a real fight,” he said.
nytimes.com
How Ukraine’s Outgunned Air Force Is Fighting Back Against Russian Jets
Aerial dogfights. Top Gun-style duels. Ukraine’s fighter pilots are badly outnumbered but have so far kept Russia from controlling the skies.
3:43 PM · Mar 22, 2022
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Ukrainian MiGs have been enormously effective. Imagine what more could do. (Original Post) ColinC Mar 2022 OP
Russia is killing women and children BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #1
Yet another WTF wrt to the Russian War machine. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2022 #2
If only there were countries nearby and an alliance that had jets ColinC Mar 2022 #3
Patience grasshopper. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2022 #5
The West should just quietly do it, no need to advertise. At the very least critical parts like Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2022 #4
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 ... Move them in part put them together in country uponit7771 Mar 2022 #8
Hell Yeah! TheFarseer Mar 2022 #9
Are they flying SU's or... orwell Mar 2022 #6
Fighter planes: Mostly MIG-29's with some Sukhoi Su-27's EX500rider Mar 2022 #10
Thanks! n/m orwell Mar 2022 #11
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
1. Russia is killing women and children
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:42 PM
Mar 2022

And bombing hospitals, schools, and churches.

Let’s give Ukraine the jets they need to fight back. Fuck Putin.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,759 posts)
2. Yet another WTF wrt to the Russian War machine.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:42 PM
Mar 2022

Hope to hear/see more of the fights going on in Ukrainian skies. If the Ukrainians can neutralize Russian AF assets in their airspace.....seems like another embarrassing defeat for Putin's Potemkin Military.

ColinC

(8,351 posts)
3. If only there were countries nearby and an alliance that had jets
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:50 PM
Mar 2022

That could be lent to Ukraine. If only...

OAITW r.2.0

(24,759 posts)
5. Patience grasshopper.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 10:25 PM
Mar 2022

Far better to let Ukrainians lead with their defense in the air. With ground to air missiles and superior targeting info. let them neutralize Russian air assets. Far better for Ukraine to take full credit for stopping this Russian military crime wave.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,546 posts)
4. The West should just quietly do it, no need to advertise. At the very least critical parts like
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 09:56 PM
Mar 2022

jet engines should have already been pouring into Ukraine.

orwell

(7,781 posts)
6. Are they flying SU's or...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 10:28 PM
Mar 2022

MiG's or both.

I saw something about a Ukrainian SU25 today.

The MiG 29 (the ones that Poland wanted to give to the Ukrainians) is a very capable plane.

The most important thing is the will and the skill of the pilot...

EX500rider

(10,891 posts)
10. Fighter planes: Mostly MIG-29's with some Sukhoi Su-27's
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 11:43 PM
Mar 2022

Ground attack some Sukhoi Su-24 & Sukhoi Su-25's

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