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Since Koch industries is staying in Russia, here's a list of their brands to avoid. (Original Post) SoonerPride Mar 2022 OP
So are they operating as they were BEFORE Putrids war or are they suspending some operations? uponit7771 Mar 2022 #1
They are not suspending anything. Business as usual with Russia for Koch. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #6
damn uponit7771 Mar 2022 #54
Didn't they begin their fortune in Russia? nt Samrob Mar 2022 #29
Yeah. GB_RN Mar 2022 #34
Yes, they did, his Dad was in the oil business there. Escurumbele Mar 2022 #36
Yeah, no wonder they support Putin's Concubine ... no doubt boat loads of money streaming from uponit7771 Mar 2022 #55
Yes Cherokee100 Mar 2022 #48
Thanks for posting this leftieNanner Mar 2022 #2
Thanks for the post - -can completely avoid all of those forever except lycra JT45242 Mar 2022 #3
I'v been boycotting them for decades... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #4
+1 n/t ariadne0614 Mar 2022 #8
Same here PatSeg Mar 2022 #16
ditto n/t AmBlue Mar 2022 #18
Same here! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #27
Yep. Same here. On the plus side, maybe they'll send Pinback Mar 2022 #37
Yes, I have avoided those products for some time. TNNurse Mar 2022 #44
Ditto! Juneboarder Mar 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author SoonerPride Mar 2022 #5
Glad to know I've been "Kock" free... orwell Mar 2022 #7
Been boycotting them for many years. niyad Mar 2022 #9
Turns out I'm not a Koch sucker. I don't like any of those brands. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #10
"Koch sucker" Talitha Mar 2022 #11
Bazinga! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #24
Republicans are Koch suckers. live love laugh Mar 2022 #56
Same here! redwitch Mar 2022 #13
Already do. old guy Mar 2022 #12
I used to be a Quilted Northern freak moonscape Mar 2022 #14
K&R Boycott them all to every degree. ffr Mar 2022 #15
Thanks - I've boycotted them for 30 years or maybe longer FakeNoose Mar 2022 #17
Not so sure Traildogbob Mar 2022 #22
Maybe the Metropolitan Museum of Art can remove the Koch plaque from their promenade. Jetheels Mar 2022 #19
Didn't their daddy make his fortune under Stalin? nuxvomica Mar 2022 #20
Yup! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #25
Is there an easy to find reference for this? Trust_Reality Mar 2022 #38
Behind every great fortune is a great crime. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #32
Indeed seta1950 Mar 2022 #46
Yes, they started thermal cracking crude oil in USSR and refineries in Nazi Germany IronLionZion Mar 2022 #42
Yup, they have a long history of working with America's enemies Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #47
Yes Cherokee100 Mar 2022 #49
We all probably use/purchase a portion of what Flint Hills Resources produces Auggie Mar 2022 #21
K&R! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #23
Owners, board members & corp. Should be added to sanctions list! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #26
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Mar 2022 #28
How did they wrangle bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #30
Here's a written list that I've been handing out for over a decade. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #31
Is there any DUer from the Wichita KS area KS Toronado Mar 2022 #33
I swore off all these products years ago. NellieStarbuck Mar 2022 #35
I already boycott anything to do with Koch..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #39
Lycra could be a problem ballardgirl Mar 2022 #40
Already avoid them like the plague they are relayerbob Mar 2022 #41
Haven't bought any of there shit ln twenty years..... turbinetree Mar 2022 #43
I already seta1950 Mar 2022 #45
That's only the latest atrocity by Koch Industries lambchopp59 Mar 2022 #51
The John Birch Society used to be anti-Russian. czarjak Mar 2022 #52
In addition to whatever nefarious means they became successful, they're international. jaxexpat Mar 2022 #53
so much ass wipe TalenaGor Mar 2022 #57
Koch is just a start. Might as well add these 28 American companies to expand the boycott. ancianita Mar 2022 #58
Dunkin' is huge here in Boston, but I have always hated them and have never patronized smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #63
I despise them, too. Sure, boycott. But how do we boycott Archer Daniels Midland in Chicago? ancianita Mar 2022 #64
Who are their subsidiaries? smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #65
Okay, will do. We should all try this. My thing about food industries is this -- People need food. ancianita Mar 2022 #66
Yes, it is a little more difficult with a company like that. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #67
Chuck makes Dave look like the "good" brother alterfurz Mar 2022 #59
Can't tell where Costco/Kirkland paper towels are made,, Permanut Mar 2022 #60
One of the upsides of being a minimalist/conservationist/environmentalist is... llmart Mar 2022 #61
Thanks for this. skip fox Mar 2022 #62

Escurumbele

(3,364 posts)
36. Yes, they did, his Dad was in the oil business there.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Mar 2022

David Koch died, there is only Charles (of the two brothers who controlled the company) left. Charles is the most evil, I believe he is the one that used to scam truckers transporting their oil for a few miserable bucks...Here is the link to the story:

[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blood-and-oil/|

--snip
Bill Koch says that his brother Charles made a fortune stealing oil. Much of it from beneath Indian reservations and federal lands - places like national forests. Oil under federal lands belongs to the public. Koch Industries was the middleman – buying oil from the government at the well - then selling it to refineries. Bill Koch says that the company took more oil than it paid for by cheating on measurements.

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
55. Yeah, no wonder they support Putin's Concubine ... no doubt boat loads of money streaming from
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:42 PM
Mar 2022

... them to wingers.

Cherokee100

(263 posts)
48. Yes
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:52 PM
Mar 2022

They started, working with the Russians in the oil business, during WW2. If not earlier and never stopped. If my memory serves me well..The greedy @#&%%%...

JT45242

(2,219 posts)
3. Thanks for the post - -can completely avoid all of those forever except lycra
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:06 PM
Mar 2022

So many fabrics have some lycra that will be the hard one.

Will need to find carpets with scotch guard rather than stain master.

Haven't eaten at Hardee's or Arby's since the 2016 election. So adding more brands to my shit list is not hard

2naSalit

(86,253 posts)
4. I'v been boycotting them for decades...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

But it's always good to see updated lists of their products just to make sure.

Response to SoonerPride (Original post)

moonscape

(4,669 posts)
14. I used to be a Quilted Northern freak
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:07 PM
Mar 2022

when Costco carried their wide TP. Switched to Kirkland when they stopped making it so relieved to be Koch-free.

ffr

(22,661 posts)
15. K&R Boycott them all to every degree.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:09 PM
Mar 2022

Hit those scum where it hurts, in their pocketbooks!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

FakeNoose

(32,485 posts)
17. Thanks - I've boycotted them for 30 years or maybe longer
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:22 PM
Mar 2022

But every bit of exposure helps.

The brother David Koch died a few years ago. Once Charlie kicks the bucket, I think the next generation of Koch billionaires won't be so evil. At least it seems that way, according to Wikipedia.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
22. Not so sure
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:39 PM
Mar 2022

We hoped the Murdocks spawn would have a soul. Both families have no soul, not born with one, raised to never grow one. The cash flow is way too much.

nuxvomica

(12,400 posts)
20. Didn't their daddy make his fortune under Stalin?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:37 PM
Mar 2022

It's not surprising they are still doing business with Russia.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
42. Yes, they started thermal cracking crude oil in USSR and refineries in Nazi Germany
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:34 PM
Mar 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries#History

When Republicans pretend to be patriotic, it's usually because they've profited by working against the United States.

Farmer-Rick

(10,119 posts)
47. Yup, they have a long history of working with America's enemies
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:51 PM
Mar 2022

Their father made his money off of Hitler and Stalin. Disloyalty runs in the family.

OMGWTF

(3,931 posts)
31. Here's a written list that I've been handing out for over a decade.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:58 PM
Mar 2022

KOCH BROTHERS PRODUCTS TO BOYCOTT:

American Greetings Cards
Angel Soft toilet paper
Brawny paper towels
Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups
Mardi Gras napkins and towels
Quilted Northern toilet paper
Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper
Sparkle napkins
Vanity fair napkins
Zee napkins
Georgia-Pacific paper products and envelopes
Lycra
Stainmaster Carpet

KS Toronado

(17,097 posts)
33. Is there any DUer from the Wichita KS area
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:09 PM
Mar 2022

that could start a boycott Koch movement outside their main office. I'm sure that since ABC, CBS, & NBC
all have TV studios there they would come out to get it on tape to air locally, maybe even nationally.
The Kochsucker Brothers will not like the negative attention.

Hell I'd even drive the 200 miles to join in. Hell even hearing about a possible protest rally on some Wichita
fakebook sites might get them to reconsider their position.

ballardgirl

(145 posts)
40. Lycra could be a problem
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:31 PM
Mar 2022

I have been boycotting their products for years, but did not realize Lycra was one of them. Now we need to check all workout wear and undergarments before buying!

turbinetree

(24,679 posts)
43. Haven't bought any of there shit ln twenty years.....
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:37 PM
Mar 2022

will not buy a product from a company that is trying to overthrow a government over there and here in this country....

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
51. That's only the latest atrocity by Koch Industries
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:02 PM
Mar 2022

If we care at all about future generations....
Boycott all Koch products possible.
Unfortunately they've got their filthy fingers in any time we buy petroleum products as well.

jaxexpat

(6,769 posts)
53. In addition to whatever nefarious means they became successful, they're international.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:26 PM
Mar 2022

It should not surprise people when owners of an "international" company has different priorities than their fellow citizens or their government. Companies such as Koch and most petroleum companies are outlanders wherever they nest.

One of the biggest advantages of trade agreements and "economic communities" is that they define the economic interests of the parties so as to, by design, align with a degree of sympathy for the political priorities of the nations involved. This makes me wonder. Just how invested was British Petroleum in the whole Brexit fiasco? And for that matter, how did I not see clearly before how it is the oil interests of Russia who see a necessary economic windfall in a socio-economically polarized America.

Americans, staring out across imaginary chasms and pointing fingers at each other is the ideal breeding ground and marketplace for all the BAD ideas near and dear to the hearts of fossil fuel magnates. It even encompasses the whole "Joe Manchin: power broker" phenomenon. It's why there is so much popular enmity against the science and science in general. Because science is where the "inconvenient", anti-fossil fuel, facts are supported. The big goal, scoring impotency of intellect onto America pulls most of the world into the imaginary Bizarro Universe where people feel like they're losing and can't find anybody to blame except the "other". THIS is the front of the real war. The one where fossil fuel industries fight against humanity's collective certainty that climate change can and must be turned around. The war in the Ukraine is not about anything except achieving unquestionable access to ROW for pipelines into European electrical generation stations and that requires a congenial Ukrainian government. If it weren't in the pipeline pathway, the Ukraine would be safe to herd its flying democracy unicorns from one end of the rainbow to the other indefinitely.

Of course, I could be wrong.

ancianita

(35,874 posts)
58. Koch is just a start. Might as well add these 28 American companies to expand the boycott.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 10:39 AM
Mar 2022

Like Koch Industries, some of these probably have subsidiaries. Many are food related, I notice.

Accor
Archer Daniels Midland
Amway
Arconic
Authentic Brands Group

Baker Hughes
Bridgestone
Burger King

Cargill
Carvel Ice Cream
Cinnabon
Citi
citrix

Decathlon
Dunkin’ Donuts

General Mills
GREIF

Halliburton
Hyatt

IPG Photonics

Koch Industries


LG Electronics
Leroy Merlin

Marriott
Mondelez Int’l

Papa John’s

Reebok
Schlumberger Herbalife
Subway


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. Dunkin' is huge here in Boston, but I have always hated them and have never patronized
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:34 AM
Mar 2022

them. Well, I have occasionally, enough to know that I don't like them. Now that I WFH, I make my own Iced Tea (don't really drink coffee much anymore) and at work we have Starbucks on site.

If I have a choice I prefer Cafe Nero, as I will sometimes choose an iced cold brew coffee, but I will NEVER go to Dunkin. I honestly think it is the worst.

ancianita

(35,874 posts)
64. I despise them, too. Sure, boycott. But how do we boycott Archer Daniels Midland in Chicago?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:38 AM
Mar 2022

Both are food industries.

What they're doing in Russia should be made clearer to Americans.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
65. Who are their subsidiaries?
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:07 PM
Mar 2022

Make them known. That's a start. And let people know who they can go to as an alternative. For instance, many of the Koch Industry brands that I might buy can easily be replaced with other brands. I am not that attached to any of their products. I am sure you will find the same for ADM.

ancianita

(35,874 posts)
66. Okay, will do. We should all try this. My thing about food industries is this -- People need food.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:19 PM
Mar 2022
The company operates more than 270 plants and 420 crop procurement facilities worldwide, where cereal grains and oilseeds are processed into products used in food, beverage, nutraceutical, industrial, and animal feed markets worldwide.

ADM ranked No. 54 in the 2020 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations.[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM_(company)

So how did former presidents like FDR think about Ford, IBM and Standard Oil. We could take a look, and I'm sure Biden has.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
67. Yes, it is a little more difficult with a company like that.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:26 PM
Mar 2022

i also work for a Fortune 100 company that is only partially pulling out, to my dismay, and I wish I could say something but I would risk my job. I expect that it will be addressed soon since this company has a high public profile and cares about it very much.

At least we are helping our Ukrainian employees get to safety and supporting them, but i do think we should be doing more to punish Russia.

Permanut

(5,519 posts)
60. Can't tell where Costco/Kirkland paper towels are made,,
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:10 AM
Mar 2022

Georgia Pacific is one of their suppliers, along with Clearwater Paper Corporation, Kimberly Clark and Proctor and Gamble.

I'll switch until I find out. Thanks for the heads up, SoonerPride!

llmart

(15,524 posts)
61. One of the upsides of being a minimalist/conservationist/environmentalist is...
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:23 AM
Mar 2022

I don't buy any of the stuff listed in this thread, especially the paper products. I do buy a couple rolls of paper towels occasionally for those things that you just can't clean up with a rag and throw in the washing machine. Of course I buy t.p. but not Quilted Northern because it's so damned expensive and secondly, who needs triple-ply toilet paper?

I adopted voluntary simplicity decades ago.

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