Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:00 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
Since Koch industries is staying in Russia, here's a list of their brands to avoid.
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67 replies, 6605 views
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SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | OP |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #1 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #6 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #54 | |
Samrob | Mar 2022 | #29 | |
GB_RN | Mar 2022 | #34 | |
Escurumbele | Mar 2022 | #36 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2022 | #55 | |
Cherokee100 | Mar 2022 | #48 | |
leftieNanner | Mar 2022 | #2 | |
JT45242 | Mar 2022 | #3 | |
2naSalit | Mar 2022 | #4 | |
ariadne0614 | Mar 2022 | #8 | |
PatSeg | Mar 2022 | #16 | |
AmBlue | Mar 2022 | #18 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #27 | |
Pinback | Mar 2022 | #37 | |
TNNurse | Mar 2022 | #44 | |
Juneboarder | Mar 2022 | #50 | |
SoonerPride | Mar 2022 | #5 | |
orwell | Mar 2022 | #7 | |
niyad | Mar 2022 | #9 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2022 | #10 | |
Talitha | Mar 2022 | #11 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #24 | |
live love laugh | Mar 2022 | #56 | |
redwitch | Mar 2022 | #13 | |
old guy | Mar 2022 | #12 | |
moonscape | Mar 2022 | #14 | |
ffr | Mar 2022 | #15 | |
FakeNoose | Mar 2022 | #17 | |
Traildogbob | Mar 2022 | #22 | |
Jetheels | Mar 2022 | #19 | |
nuxvomica | Mar 2022 | #20 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #25 | |
Trust_Reality | Mar 2022 | #38 | |
OMGWTF | Mar 2022 | #32 | |
seta1950 | Mar 2022 | #46 | |
IronLionZion | Mar 2022 | #42 | |
Farmer-Rick | Mar 2022 | #47 | |
Cherokee100 | Mar 2022 | #49 | |
Auggie | Mar 2022 | #21 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #23 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #26 | |
SheltieLover | Mar 2022 | #28 | |
bucolic_frolic | Mar 2022 | #30 | |
OMGWTF | Mar 2022 | #31 | |
KS Toronado | Mar 2022 | #33 | |
NellieStarbuck | Mar 2022 | #35 | |
SergeStorms | Mar 2022 | #39 | |
ballardgirl | Mar 2022 | #40 | |
relayerbob | Mar 2022 | #41 | |
turbinetree | Mar 2022 | #43 | |
seta1950 | Mar 2022 | #45 | |
lambchopp59 | Mar 2022 | #51 | |
czarjak | Mar 2022 | #52 | |
jaxexpat | Mar 2022 | #53 | |
TalenaGor | Mar 2022 | #57 | |
ancianita | Mar 2022 | #58 | |
smirkymonkey | Mar 2022 | #63 | |
ancianita | Mar 2022 | #64 | |
smirkymonkey | Mar 2022 | #65 | |
ancianita | Mar 2022 | #66 | |
smirkymonkey | Mar 2022 | #67 | |
alterfurz | Mar 2022 | #59 | |
Permanut | Mar 2022 | #60 | |
llmart | Mar 2022 | #61 | |
skip fox | Mar 2022 | #62 |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:03 PM
uponit7771 (88,616 posts)
1. So are they operating as they were BEFORE Putrids war or are they suspending some operations?
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:14 PM
SoonerPride (12,286 posts)
6. They are not suspending anything. Business as usual with Russia for Koch.
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:49 PM
Samrob (4,163 posts)
29. Didn't they begin their fortune in Russia? nt
Response to Samrob (Reply #29)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:14 PM
GB_RN (1,902 posts)
34. Yeah.
The Kochroach’s dad made his money drilling oil for Stalin back in the 1930s.
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Response to Samrob (Reply #29)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Escurumbele (2,848 posts)
36. Yes, they did, his Dad was in the oil business there.
David Koch died, there is only Charles (of the two brothers who controlled the company) left. Charles is the most evil, I believe he is the one that used to scam truckers transporting their oil for a few miserable bucks...Here is the link to the story:
[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blood-and-oil/| --snip Bill Koch says that his brother Charles made a fortune stealing oil. Much of it from beneath Indian reservations and federal lands - places like national forests. Oil under federal lands belongs to the public. Koch Industries was the middleman – buying oil from the government at the well - then selling it to refineries. Bill Koch says that the company took more oil than it paid for by cheating on measurements. |
Response to Escurumbele (Reply #36)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:42 PM
uponit7771 (88,616 posts)
55. Yeah, no wonder they support Putin's Concubine ... no doubt boat loads of money streaming from
... them to wingers.
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Response to Samrob (Reply #29)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:52 PM
Cherokee100 (118 posts)
48. Yes
They started, working with the Russians in the oil business, during WW2. If not earlier and never stopped. If my memory serves me well..The greedy @#&%%%...
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:04 PM
leftieNanner (13,505 posts)
2. Thanks for posting this
I avoid their products as a rule.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:06 PM
JT45242 (1,596 posts)
3. Thanks for the post - -can completely avoid all of those forever except lycra
So many fabrics have some lycra that will be the hard one.
Will need to find carpets with scotch guard rather than stain master. Haven't eaten at Hardee's or Arby's since the 2016 election. So adding more brands to my shit list is not hard |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:11 PM
2naSalit (70,337 posts)
4. I'v been boycotting them for decades...
But it's always good to see updated lists of their products just to make sure.
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:44 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
27. Same here!
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:20 PM
Pinback (11,630 posts)
37. Yep. Same here. On the plus side, maybe they'll send
paper towels to the people of Ukraine.
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:38 PM
TNNurse (6,421 posts)
44. Yes, I have avoided those products for some time.
It is good to have a fresh list.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:15 PM
orwell (7,729 posts)
7. Glad to know I've been "Kock" free...
...for decades.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:30 PM
niyad (98,886 posts)
9. Been boycotting them for many years.
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:32 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
10. Turns out I'm not a Koch sucker. I don't like any of those brands.
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:42 PM
Talitha (5,660 posts)
11. "Koch sucker"
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Response to Talitha (Reply #11)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:55 PM
live love laugh (10,938 posts)
56. Republicans are Koch suckers.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:02 PM
redwitch (14,777 posts)
13. Same here!
🙂
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:00 PM
old guy (3,274 posts)
12. Already do.
Koch is responsible for the condition Wi is in.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:07 PM
moonscape (4,335 posts)
14. I used to be a Quilted Northern freak
when Costco carried their wide TP. Switched to Kirkland when they stopped making it so relieved to be Koch-free.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:09 PM
ffr (21,991 posts)
15. K&R Boycott them all to every degree.
Hit those scum where it hurts, in their pocketbooks!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:22 PM
FakeNoose (28,412 posts)
17. Thanks - I've boycotted them for 30 years or maybe longer
But every bit of exposure helps.
The brother David Koch died a few years ago. Once Charlie kicks the bucket, I think the next generation of Koch billionaires won't be so evil. At least it seems that way, according to Wikipedia. |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #17)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:39 PM
Traildogbob (6,705 posts)
22. Not so sure
We hoped the Murdocks spawn would have a soul. Both families have no soul, not born with one, raised to never grow one. The cash flow is way too much.
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jetheels (991 posts)
19. Maybe the Metropolitan Museum of Art can remove the Koch plaque from their promenade.
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:37 PM
nuxvomica (11,420 posts)
20. Didn't their daddy make his fortune under Stalin?
It's not surprising they are still doing business with Russia.
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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #25)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:24 PM
Trust_Reality (1,677 posts)
38. Is there an easy to find reference for this?
If so, it should be publicized.
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Response to nuxvomica (Reply #20)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:59 PM
OMGWTF (3,282 posts)
32. Behind every great fortune is a great crime.
Response to nuxvomica (Reply #20)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:34 PM
IronLionZion (42,013 posts)
42. Yes, they started thermal cracking crude oil in USSR and refineries in Nazi Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries#History
When Republicans pretend to be patriotic, it's usually because they've profited by working against the United States. |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #42)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:51 PM
Farmer-Rick (8,358 posts)
47. Yup, they have a long history of working with America's enemies
Their father made his money off of Hitler and Stalin. Disloyalty runs in the family.
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Response to nuxvomica (Reply #20)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:54 PM
Cherokee100 (118 posts)
49. Yes
In the oil business. Are we surprised?
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:39 PM
Auggie (29,842 posts)
21. We all probably use/purchase a portion of what Flint Hills Resources produces
Check out the wenbsite
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:40 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
23. K&R!
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:44 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
26. Owners, board members & corp. Should be added to sanctions list!
How fucking dare they?
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:44 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
28. Kicking for visibility
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:58 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,134 posts)
30. How did they wrangle
an imprint of Vanity Fair? Seems to me that's a lingerie line. Licensed branding?
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:58 PM
OMGWTF (3,282 posts)
31. Here's a written list that I've been handing out for over a decade.
KOCH BROTHERS PRODUCTS TO BOYCOTT:
American Greetings Cards Angel Soft toilet paper Brawny paper towels Dixie plates, bowls, napkins and cups Mardi Gras napkins and towels Quilted Northern toilet paper Soft ‘n Gentle toilet paper Sparkle napkins Vanity fair napkins Zee napkins Georgia-Pacific paper products and envelopes Lycra Stainmaster Carpet |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:09 PM
KS Toronado (12,594 posts)
33. Is there any DUer from the Wichita KS area
that could start a boycott Koch movement outside their main office. I'm sure that since ABC, CBS, & NBC
all have TV studios there they would come out to get it on tape to air locally, maybe even nationally. The Kochsucker Brothers will not like the negative attention. Hell I'd even drive the 200 miles to join in. Hell even hearing about a possible protest rally on some Wichita fakebook sites might get them to reconsider their position. ![]() |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
NellieStarbuck (260 posts)
35. I swore off all these products years ago.
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:26 PM
SergeStorms (18,185 posts)
39. I already boycott anything to do with Koch.....
but I'll try harder. Really, I will!
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:31 PM
ballardgirl (139 posts)
40. Lycra could be a problem
I have been boycotting their products for years, but did not realize Lycra was one of them. Now we need to check all workout wear and undergarments before buying!
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:33 PM
relayerbob (5,875 posts)
41. Already avoid them like the plague they are
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:37 PM
turbinetree (23,986 posts)
43. Haven't bought any of there shit ln twenty years.....
will not buy a product from a company that is trying to overthrow a government over there and here in this country....
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:42 PM
seta1950 (926 posts)
45. I already
DO NOT BUY THESE PRODUCTS, I haven’t in a long time
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:02 PM
lambchopp59 (2,575 posts)
51. That's only the latest atrocity by Koch Industries
If we care at all about future generations....
Boycott all Koch products possible. Unfortunately they've got their filthy fingers in any time we buy petroleum products as well. |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:05 PM
czarjak (8,837 posts)
52. The John Birch Society used to be anti-Russian.
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:26 PM
jaxexpat (5,170 posts)
53. In addition to whatever nefarious means they became successful, they're international.
It should not surprise people when owners of an "international" company has different priorities than their fellow citizens or their government. Companies such as Koch and most petroleum companies are outlanders wherever they nest.
One of the biggest advantages of trade agreements and "economic communities" is that they define the economic interests of the parties so as to, by design, align with a degree of sympathy for the political priorities of the nations involved. This makes me wonder. Just how invested was British Petroleum in the whole Brexit fiasco? And for that matter, how did I not see clearly before ![]() Americans, staring out across imaginary chasms and pointing fingers at each other is the ideal breeding ground and marketplace for all the BAD ideas near and dear to the hearts of fossil fuel magnates. It even encompasses the whole "Joe Manchin: power broker" phenomenon. It's why there is so much popular enmity against the science and science in general. Because science is where the "inconvenient", anti-fossil fuel, facts are supported. The big goal, scoring impotency of intellect onto America pulls most of the world into the imaginary Bizarro Universe where people feel like they're losing and can't find anybody to blame except the "other". THIS is the front of the real war. The one where fossil fuel industries fight against humanity's collective certainty that climate change can and must be turned around. The war in the Ukraine is not about anything except achieving unquestionable access to ROW for pipelines into European electrical generation stations and that requires a congenial Ukrainian government. If it weren't in the pipeline pathway, the Ukraine would be safe to herd its flying democracy unicorns from one end of the rainbow to the other indefinitely. Of course, I could be wrong. |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 10:32 AM
TalenaGor (1,078 posts)
57. so much ass wipe
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 10:39 AM
ancianita (30,859 posts)
58. Koch is just a start. Might as well add these 28 American companies to expand the boycott.
Like Koch Industries, some of these probably have subsidiaries. Many are food related, I notice.
Accor Archer Daniels Midland Amway Arconic Authentic Brands Group Baker Hughes Bridgestone Burger King Cargill Carvel Ice Cream Cinnabon Citi citrix Decathlon Dunkin’ Donuts General Mills GREIF Halliburton Hyatt IPG Photonics Koch Industries LG Electronics Leroy Merlin Marriott Mondelez Int’l Papa John’s Reebok Schlumberger Herbalife Subway |
Response to ancianita (Reply #58)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:34 AM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
63. Dunkin' is huge here in Boston, but I have always hated them and have never patronized
them. Well, I have occasionally, enough to know that I don't like them. Now that I WFH, I make my own Iced Tea (don't really drink coffee much anymore) and at work we have Starbucks on site.
If I have a choice I prefer Cafe Nero, as I will sometimes choose an iced cold brew coffee, but I will NEVER go to Dunkin. I honestly think it is the worst. |
Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #63)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:38 AM
ancianita (30,859 posts)
64. I despise them, too. Sure, boycott. But how do we boycott Archer Daniels Midland in Chicago?
Both are food industries.
What they're doing in Russia should be made clearer to Americans. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #64)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:07 PM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
65. Who are their subsidiaries?
Make them known. That's a start. And let people know who they can go to as an alternative. For instance, many of the Koch Industry brands that I might buy can easily be replaced with other brands. I am not that attached to any of their products. I am sure you will find the same for ADM.
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #65)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:19 PM
ancianita (30,859 posts)
66. Okay, will do. We should all try this. My thing about food industries is this -- People need food.
The company operates more than 270 plants and 420 crop procurement facilities worldwide, where cereal grains and oilseeds are processed into products used in food, beverage, nutraceutical, industrial, and animal feed markets worldwide.
ADM ranked No. 54 in the 2020 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM_(company) So how did former presidents like FDR think about Ford, IBM and Standard Oil. We could take a look, and I'm sure Biden has. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #66)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:26 PM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
67. Yes, it is a little more difficult with a company like that.
i also work for a Fortune 100 company that is only partially pulling out, to my dismay, and I wish I could say something but I would risk my job. I expect that it will be addressed soon since this company has a high public profile and cares about it very much.
At least we are helping our Ukrainian employees get to safety and supporting them, but i do think we should be doing more to punish Russia. |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:02 AM
alterfurz (2,382 posts)
59. Chuck makes Dave look like the "good" brother
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Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:10 AM
Permanut (3,872 posts)
60. Can't tell where Costco/Kirkland paper towels are made,,
Georgia Pacific is one of their suppliers, along with Clearwater Paper Corporation, Kimberly Clark and Proctor and Gamble.
I'll switch until I find out. Thanks for the heads up, SoonerPride! |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:23 AM
llmart (14,274 posts)
61. One of the upsides of being a minimalist/conservationist/environmentalist is...
I don't buy any of the stuff listed in this thread, especially the paper products. I do buy a couple rolls of paper towels occasionally for those things that you just can't clean up with a rag and throw in the washing machine. Of course I buy t.p. but not Quilted Northern because it's so damned expensive and secondly, who needs triple-ply toilet paper?
I adopted voluntary simplicity decades ago. |
Response to SoonerPride (Original post)
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:25 AM
skip fox (19,124 posts)