Brooklyn woman killed a woman in 63, served time, killed another in 84, served time, just killed 3rd

[Demovictory9]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/nyregion/harvey-marcelin-shopping-cart-body.html

An 83-year-old Brooklyn woman convicted twice of killing women she lived with was charged with murder on Thursday, after investigators found a head in her apartment that, officials said, belonged to a body discovered in a shopping cart last week.

Harvey Marcelin, who had served decades in prison for murder and manslaughter before her release in 2019, was arrested March 4 and was initially charged with concealment of human remains.

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Ms. Marcelin has served decades in state prison in connection with two Manhattan homicides, in 1963 and 1984.

In October 1963, she was convicted of first-degree murder for fatally shooting her then-girlfriend in a Harlem apartment building.

The state court judge overseeing the case imposed a life sentence, after the jury was unable to decide whether to impose the death penalty, court filings show.

In May 1984, Ms. Marcelin was released from prison on lifetime parole, according to state records.

Less than a year later, after a body was found in a bag near Central Park, Manhattan prosecutors said Ms. Marcelin had stabbed to death another woman she had been living with. In 1986, she pleaded guilty to first-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to six to 12 years in prison, state records show.

[jimfields33]

1. Good grief

Are we sure parole was a good idea after the first murder?

[LisaL]

6. Seems clear it wasn't.

NT

[secondwind]

8. Personally, if there is a human head in her home this indicates

serious mental issues. Just my two cents.

[yardwork]

14. Certainly not after the second murder!! What the hell?!

People are serving life in prison without parole for drug offenses!!

[magicarpet]

2. Warning:'Does not play well with others....

[cinematicdiversions]

3. I sense a pattern here...

Our tendency to give woman much shorter sentences than men for the same crimes does seem to have a downside.

[Demovictory9]

4. complicated case. Killer may have been living as man during prior killings

[LisaL]

5. She is transgender.

NT

[North Shore Chicago]

18. Yes

This will go down in the stats as a woman murderer, when it is not.

[obamanut2012]

7. We actually give women more time for many crimes

But that is moot. Ms. Marcelin was sentenced as a man, not a woman, for her previous murders.

[UnderThisLaw]

15. With her behavior

or with what’s being posted?

[cinematicdiversions]

16. Her behavior.

After the second murder in as many decades perhaps an eyebrow could be raised.

[kcr]

21. It's the opposite

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809269120/federal-report-says-women-in-prison-receive-harsher-punishments-than-men

[cinematicdiversions]

22. That's about punishments while they're in prison

I was referring to sentencing.

[Vinca]

9. So I take it she wasn't the kind of roomie you might want.

After murder #2 shouldn't she have been in the big house forever?????

[Karma13612]

10. Yea, it would seem so.

I mean, we can all make that first (murderous) mistake, right?

But, going down the same path a second time just seems that the sentence should be one way. Life without parole. Maybe they were afraid they would kill while in prison?

Anyway, this 3rd offense will probably see them in prison for life.

[LisaL]

11. She is transgender.

As far as I can tell, the first two victims were her (or his at the time) girlfriends at the time of murders. Not sure about the current victim. There is a long criminal history, not just murders.

"Marcelin also has prior arrests for felony assault in 1957, booking in 1962 and rape in 1963."

https://abc7ny.com/harvey-marcelin-serial-killer-womans-torso-in-cart-shopping/11643335/

[Ilsa]

12. Psychopaths that act out need to be kept locked up.

Where was trump when this murderer wss in the news?

[cinematicdiversions]

17. Look I hate trump as much as the next guy

But I'm not sure we can really blame him for Buffalo Bill over here.

[Ilsa]

19. Not blaming him, just remembering how vocal IQ45 was when the

Central Park was on trial and how he wanted them executed even after they were found Not Guilty.

[Xavier Breath]

13. Let's hope we're not back here

in fifteen years debating the merits of her third parole.

[Demovictory9]

23. Yeah 😥

[Ohio Joe]

20. I suppose...

If we had a justice system that was about rehabilitation instead of punishment, things would have gone better.

But… Maybe that’s just me.