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Breaking News: Chris Hayes just said that there is a "fire fight" at nuke plant, not just a fire. (Original Post) okaawhatever Mar 2022 OP
The Russians were shelling the plant AND firing on the firefighters trying to put out the fire. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #1
Yeah, gosh, let the nuclear plant burn... PatrickforB Mar 2022 #30
This is the red line angrychair Mar 2022 #2
Agreed. nt okaawhatever Mar 2022 #3
Reactors are supposed to go critical Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #12
This is the same problem we've always had. "NATO cannot allow them." pnwmom Mar 2022 #14
I really think Putin has lost his mind. COL Mustard Mar 2022 #4
I am retired at my country place not that far really San Antonio. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #6
Yeah having another drink too madville Mar 2022 #8
San Antonio is a busy place. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #9
NORAD here. Going for the brandy and chocolate cake. niyad Mar 2022 #16
Have some of that chocolate cake. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #17
walnut or poppy seed? niyad Mar 2022 #18
Apple. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #21
Yummmm. with you on the poppy seed. niyad Mar 2022 #22
My Grandmother made poppy seed ones. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #25
Yum, now you're talking! summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #24
I will most any fruit but if I make them it is only apple. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #27
I'm no cook. summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #28
I will eat all that. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #29
We used to love to stop in West when my in-laws were alive. summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #33
I was a little kid in 1962 COL Mustard Mar 2022 #42
I don't think the troops on the ground have that kind of CCC. Gore1FL Mar 2022 #7
You can see the rounds (tracers perhaps) in CNN. underpants Mar 2022 #5
Prepare yourself everyone BradAllison Mar 2022 #10
Talked to my Grandkids today for a long time. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #11
I think it broke her NightWatcher Mar 2022 #13
Putin is freaking out, as everything is failing for him, and he needs NATO to join in the fight. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #15
I don't think he's freaking out at all dwayneb Mar 2022 #19
His little 2-day war has turned into a quagmire in just 4 days. He has no graceful exit. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #20
Nobody wants to be associated with Russia now. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #23
Yep. Change must come from within Russia. Soon, when all are against Russia they must ask why. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #26
Maybe he will fall out a window. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #32
Stop trying to cheer my day up. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #38
You are welcome. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #39
Seizing the Power Plants is a tactic. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #31
I bet the Ukrainen fighters stop taking prisoners. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #34
In response to the power plant attack? maxsolomon Mar 2022 #35
I see them being nice to a point. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #36
OK. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #37
These fighters are under a lot of stress. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #40
If there is a sudden radiation leak DFW Mar 2022 #41

highplainsdem

(49,503 posts)
1. The Russians were shelling the plant AND firing on the firefighters trying to put out the fire.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:38 PM
Mar 2022

But firefighters have now been allowed in. See my two threads about tweets from NEXTA.

PatrickforB

(14,647 posts)
30. Yeah, gosh, let the nuclear plant burn...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:30 AM
Mar 2022

and fire on those firefighters!

What could possibly go wrong?

angrychair

(8,878 posts)
2. This is the red line
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:41 PM
Mar 2022

Accounts I've read on Twitter imply they are heavily damaging it.
This is the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
If it goes critical it could kill thousands and make millions sick.

I lived in Europe during the Chernobyl disaster and despite being thousands of miles away we were still impacted by the fallout.

NATO cannot allow them to cause a nuclear disaster.

Jerry2144

(2,190 posts)
12. Reactors are supposed to go critical
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:08 PM
Mar 2022

That’s how they make power. Critical means the chain reaction is steady and power is steady. In power reactors, critical is normal and good. I am sure those reactors are shut down and won’t be taken critical until the invaders are gone and any damage repaired.

What you should be worried about is if it loses all cooling to the fuel.

pnwmom

(109,069 posts)
14. This is the same problem we've always had. "NATO cannot allow them."
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:25 PM
Mar 2022

How is NATO supposed to stop them, exactly?

COL Mustard

(6,171 posts)
4. I really think Putin has lost his mind.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:44 PM
Mar 2022

If he's doing/allowing/sanctioning this, he's insane.

Not going to sleep well tonight, inside the Beltway as I am.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
6. I am retired at my country place not that far really San Antonio.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

Cuban Missile Crisis all over again.

Think I will get another beer.

madville

(7,413 posts)
8. Yeah having another drink too
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:55 PM
Mar 2022

I’m retired from the US military, out here in rural north Florida, this can snowball quick

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
9. San Antonio is a busy place.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:10 PM
Mar 2022

We are maybe close to halfway between Austin and San Antonio.

Wish I was sitting next to my Grandmother again on that front porch swing.

That was a comfort last time.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
29. I will eat all that.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:27 AM
Mar 2022

We have picky eaters here so apple is neutral filling also.

The sausage for the pig in blankets comes from our neighbor's smokehouse

He had to make extra for him.

All day job.

But worth it.

summer_in_TX

(2,805 posts)
33. We used to love to stop in West when my in-laws were alive.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:34 AM
Mar 2022

They lived in Fort Worth, we lived in Austin at the time. What a treat to stop at the Czech bakery.

It's too bad it's so labor intensive, although I guess if it were more available, I'd be in trouble. Hard to pass up.

COL Mustard

(6,171 posts)
42. I was a little kid in 1962
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:54 AM
Mar 2022

My dad was in the Army and we were stationed at Ft. Sam. Fortunately I don't remember those days but it was a scary time for the grownups.

Gore1FL

(21,257 posts)
7. I don't think the troops on the ground have that kind of CCC.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:55 PM
Mar 2022

Putin isn't directly giving the orders for this. This is some idiot commander on the ground with probably no idea what he's hitting.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
10. Prepare yourself everyone
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:59 PM
Mar 2022

Tell your loved ones now.....

A suicidal nut has nukes and is desperate to use them.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
11. Talked to my Grandkids today for a long time.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:07 PM
Mar 2022

And my cousin.

All all them in Canada.

My cousin came to have some surgery and welcome two great grandchildren.

I blame Trump for a lot of this.

Kissing up to Putin.

TheBlackAdder

(28,382 posts)
15. Putin is freaking out, as everything is failing for him, and he needs NATO to join in the fight.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:27 PM
Mar 2022

.

I believe if a NATO country attacks another, the mutual defense clause does not kick in.

I think that only kicks in if a NATO country is attacked first.

.

dwayneb

(774 posts)
19. I don't think he's freaking out at all
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:41 PM
Mar 2022

This monster is enjoying every minute of the chaos and devastation he is causing.

Failing? I don't see that at all. The Russian attack appears to be clumsy but in the end they will annihilate Ukraine. Install Russian friendlies in every city and his puppet in Kyiv.

TheBlackAdder

(28,382 posts)
20. His little 2-day war has turned into a quagmire in just 4 days. He has no graceful exit.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:44 PM
Mar 2022

.

The first Chinese back is freezing them out and more will follow. India will be next.

.

TheBlackAdder

(28,382 posts)
26. Yep. Change must come from within Russia. Soon, when all are against Russia they must ask why.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:53 PM
Mar 2022

.

When 90% of the countries are against Russia's actions. If China and India join in, that's something that cannot be refuted, no matter how much propaganda Putin throws at them. Instituting Martial Law will just amplify the growing distrust in Putin.


If a foreign nation tries to take him out, that would be calamitous.

.

maxsolomon

(33,647 posts)
31. Seizing the Power Plants is a tactic.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:33 AM
Mar 2022

They can cut off power to the population. I doubt they're trying to destroy it. It makes more sense to control it.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
40. These fighters are under a lot of stress.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:59 AM
Mar 2022

People can snap.

One of my Uncles help liberate one of the death camps in WW2.

The American soldiers were so angry that they shot a lot the German soldiers at the camp.

Line them up against a wall and shot them.

My Uncle who could speak German spoke to them first.

Things happen.

The war is only going to get worse.

DFW

(54,944 posts)
41. If there is a sudden radiation leak
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:03 AM
Mar 2022

It won’t care who is in its path. Maybe Putin can cover it jp for a while, but at some point word will filter back into Russia.

I think Putin’s miscalculations may earn him the same fate as Julius Caesar. They’d never admit it public, of course. They’d say he slipped and fell on a pin cushion, and give him a hero’s funeral. That’s how it’s done there.

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