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Does Ukraine not have weapons to strike inside Russia? (Original Post) Samrob Feb 2022 OP
Ukraine was never a threat to Russia. JohnSJ Feb 2022 #1
Putin was never afraid of Ukraine; he just wanted it back. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #2
This move melm00se Feb 2022 #3
Only to a limited degree. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #4
Propaganda as pretext. Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #5
They have a missile battalion sarisataka Feb 2022 #6
Small air force. Not sure how much survived the initial Tomconroy Feb 2022 #7
I wonder if they have cruise missles? Swede Feb 2022 #8
Not many, and the ones they have don't have the range to hit Moscow. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #13
Thats a shame. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2022 #14
Yes, they do not. MineralMan Feb 2022 #9
The threat was NATO membership. Voltaire2 Feb 2022 #10
They would never win with such a tactic... Ohio Joe Feb 2022 #11
Ukraine gave its nuclear missiles to Russia in return for a security agreement dalton99a Feb 2022 #12

Ocelot II

(114,632 posts)
2. Putin was never afraid of Ukraine; he just wanted it back.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:15 AM
Feb 2022

Ukraine was once part of the USSR/Russia, and Putin wants to restore his "empire."

melm00se

(4,952 posts)
3. This move
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:17 AM
Feb 2022

is to serve 2 purposes:

1. Reestablish the Russian Empire. Except for the last few decades, the Russians have had an empire. Under the Tsars and under the Soviets. Their empire collapsed with the break up of the USSR. They - want - it - back.....

2. Move closer for the Russians to have warm water port that does not require their ships to pass thru a constriction point.

Their next target will be Turkey. The Russians will undermine Turkey's NATO membership and thren strike.

Happy Hoosier

(6,840 posts)
5. Propaganda as pretext.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:18 AM
Feb 2022

Ukraine was never a threat to Russia.

This is an imperial land-grab, plain and simple.

The ONLY question is what the world will do about it.

Right now, the response is.... fairly mild, in my view. I hope that changes. This is a BIG test for Biden.

sarisataka

(18,066 posts)
6. They have a missile battalion
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:18 AM
Feb 2022

That could reach into Russia a few hundred miles. It wouldn't make much difference however.

As others have said, it was not about Ukraine's military threat to Russia. An independent Ukraine is a threat to Putin.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
7. Small air force. Not sure how much survived the initial
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:18 AM
Feb 2022

missile attacks. Without control of its own air Ukraine's ability to defend even itself is limited.

Voltaire2

(12,271 posts)
10. The threat was NATO membership.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:21 AM
Feb 2022

And in retrospect it was idiotic to expand NATO beyond its original membership into the former Warsaw Pact nations. How did we think Russia was going to react? What was our plan when, inevitably, Russia reacted?

None of which justifies Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. I just don’t see how this wasn’t obviously going to happen, and how it was equally obvious that there was no good response.

Ohio Joe

(21,547 posts)
11. They would never win with such a tactic...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:26 AM
Feb 2022

In fact, such a tactic would have devastating consequences. Putin would reply with massive strikes that would kill very large amounts of civilians.

No... I suspect their best bet is to make it look like their military folded quickly, they merge into the civilian population and then fight unconventional warfare from there. At least... That is what I would do.

dalton99a

(80,553 posts)
12. Ukraine gave its nuclear missiles to Russia in return for a security agreement
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:29 AM
Feb 2022

which Putin later declared null and void


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