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Thomas Jefferson's Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, lived long enough to be photographed. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 OP
Cool haircut, dude! Stinky The Clown Feb 2022 #1
I often wonder what we would think of the revolutionary war with photography like the Civil War Walleye Feb 2022 #2
Ever see these photos before? Efilroft Sul Feb 2022 #4
Those are amazing! SoonerPride Feb 2022 #7
Wow, thanks. Never saw those, the men and clothing look fairly modern Walleye Feb 2022 #8
Clothing styles had changed by the time of photography. NutmegYankee Feb 2022 #23
Quite a lot to exceed the life expectancy of the times. Nevilledog Feb 2022 #14
Life expectancy once you made it to an adult was about the same as it is now. former9thward Feb 2022 #15
These guys were all over 100 Nevilledog Feb 2022 #16
Yes, I was posting about the average. former9thward Feb 2022 #17
As mentioned by another post, the maximum life span hasn't changed much. NutmegYankee Feb 2022 #24
Wow! Iggo Feb 2022 #26
He looks like Ebeneezer Scrooge! FakeNoose Feb 2022 #3
He's got a sparkle to him. alphafemale Feb 2022 #5
The pace of technological advances are incredible. Torchlight Feb 2022 #6
I must be pre-historic. I was in high school when LIW died. marybourg Feb 2022 #10
I suppose it's all relative: some days I feel like a youth, other days not so much. Torchlight Feb 2022 #11
A time traveller JHB Feb 2022 #9
The streets in my neighborhood are named for cabinet members Danmel Feb 2022 #12
There's a Gallatin Street in downtown Huntsville, AL, along with Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, etc. eppur_se_muova Feb 2022 #21
USPS issued a Gallatin stamp in the 1960s I think with a denomination of 1.25 cents bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #13
from U.S. Department of the Treasury online frogmarch Feb 2022 #18
John Quincy Adams was the first president to be photographed in 1843 Poiuyt Feb 2022 #19
It looks as if frogmarch Feb 2022 #20
Resembles Jamie Raskin. miyazaki Feb 2022 #22
The Founding Fathers and those folks in Gov. back then all looked like Berkeley Professors. LOL Quixote1818 Feb 2022 #25

Walleye

(31,030 posts)
8. Wow, thanks. Never saw those, the men and clothing look fairly modern
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:52 PM
Feb 2022

We always think of these guys in tights and powdered wigs

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
23. Clothing styles had changed by the time of photography.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 12:07 AM
Feb 2022

The powdered wig and Culottes were going out of style by the late 1700s and virtually disappeared (replaced by trousers and normal hair) by the 1820s. James Monroe was the last US president to wear coat, waistcoat and breeches. Belt buckle shoes started going out of style in Jefferson's term, and he famously took the oath of office dressed in lace up brogans, giving them the nickname "Jeffersons."

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
15. Life expectancy once you made it to an adult was about the same as it is now.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 08:56 PM
Feb 2022

The low average you read about is because so many infants and young children died of disease and they are averaged in with all other deaths. Once those are taken out people could expect to live to the 65-75 age range.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
17. Yes, I was posting about the average.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:31 PM
Feb 2022

People could certainly live to extremes just as they do now. Life expectancy is a bell curve just like almost everything in nature.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
24. As mentioned by another post, the maximum life span hasn't changed much.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 12:12 AM
Feb 2022

The average life expectancy gives us a false impression because half of children didn’t make it past age 5. If you made it adulthood, you stood good odds of living to 70-80 like today. And people did exceed that and live to 90 or more.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
5. He's got a sparkle to him.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

Most early photos do not catch any personality at all since people had to stay still so long.

Torchlight

(3,344 posts)
6. The pace of technological advances are incredible.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:50 PM
Feb 2022

I have a family member who, as little girl, met Laura Ingalls Wilder (author, Little House on the Prairie-- she got her copy autographed).

Wilder was born in 1867, less than two years after the civil war ended, lived through industrialization, four economic depressions, the airplane going from a simple idea to an world-wide industry, two world wars; and died in 1957, the year Sputnik was launched into orbit and when McCartney and Lennon first met.

That one person's eyes could see so much wonder and awe (and slaughter and misery) is something I still have a difficult time wrapping my brain around.

And I wonder, where will we be should I live almost a century? What wonders and miseries, undreamed of in the here and now, will we come face to face with?

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
10. I must be pre-historic. I was in high school when LIW died.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 07:05 PM
Feb 2022

Edited to add: I remember seeing elderly white-bearded Civil War Veterans marching in various parades, in N.Y.

Torchlight

(3,344 posts)
11. I suppose it's all relative: some days I feel like a youth, other days not so much.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 07:59 PM
Feb 2022

I was in grade/middle school during the gas lines and bussing, and I still feel weird not seeing the two most ubiquitous pieces of American history laying on the ground: beer tabs and cigarette butts. Watching my closest friends' become grandparents and those grandchildren dating already has me feeling weatherworn.

But at the end of the day, I still keep my youthful optimism and idealism in my front pockets-- the only difference now is that it's tempered with "I might be wrong, though" which is something Young Me never allowed for.

Danmel

(4,918 posts)
12. The streets in my neighborhood are named for cabinet members
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 08:01 PM
Feb 2022

Including said Mr. Gallatin. The builder must have been a history buff.

eppur_se_muova

(36,274 posts)
21. There's a Gallatin Street in downtown Huntsville, AL, along with Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, etc.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 10:37 PM
Feb 2022

There's a Gallatin north of here in TN, and I used to think that Gallatin St was named because that's the way you started out to go from H'ville to Gallatin ... apparently not.

Oh, and Pulaski Pike has long been one of the major roads through town -- but it does lead toward Pulaski, TN !

All this is in Madison County, which is also home to the city of Decatur (named after a family of Navy heroes).

frogmarch

(12,156 posts)
18. from U.S. Department of the Treasury online
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:55 PM
Feb 2022
Born to an aristocratic Swiss family, Albert Gallatin (1761 - 1849) emigrated from Switzerland to America in 1780. Elected to the House of Representatives in 1795 and serving until 1801, Gallatin fought constantly with the independent minded first Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton. He was responsible for the law of 1801 requiring an annual report by the Secretary of the Treasury, and he submitted the first one later that year as Secretary. He also helped create the powerful House Ways and Means Committee to assure Treasury's accountability to Congress by reviewing the Department's annual report concerning revenues, debts, loans, and expenditures. Appointed Secretary of the Treasury in 1801 by President Jefferson and continuing under President James Madison until 1814, Gallatin was in office nearly thirteen years, the longest term of any Secretary in the Department's history.

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Thanks for posting the photo!

Quixote1818

(28,950 posts)
25. The Founding Fathers and those folks in Gov. back then all looked like Berkeley Professors. LOL
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 12:35 AM
Feb 2022

Politics accracts totally different types today. Totally corrupt assholes!

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