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EndlessWire

(6,888 posts)
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:25 PM Feb 2022

CNN reported that

Russia put up a pontoon bridge over a river four miles from the Ukraine border, overnight. They also constructed roads. I don't know much if anything about pontoon bridges other than they are portable. Can you leave them in place forever, or do they require maintenance?

They aren't withdrawing. Still no satellite images showing them making a big effort to leave. Rather, they are increasing their presence.

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Pontoon bridges are temporary... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #1
They are gaming right now. EndlessWire Feb 2022 #7
Also, some larger tanks can't cross on normal road bridges... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #9
Wow, I didn't know that. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2022 #10
Yep. The muddy season. It's coming. paleotn Feb 2022 #17
"Most pontoon bridges are designed for temporary use... PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #2
It depends a lot on what kind of traffic is crossing it as to how long it will last...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #14
It's a cold day for pontooning Blue Owl Feb 2022 #3
I knew I had seen this erlier.. asiliveandbreathe Feb 2022 #4
Putin is laughing at all these daily proclamations of war, thats his game Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2022 #5
What's his game? Daily proclamations of war? Invading countries? AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2022 #11
Driving up oil prices to add to his personal vault Probatim Feb 2022 #16
Ham handed at best. He's as predictable as the sunrise. paleotn Feb 2022 #19
Do they have a building permit? aeromanKC Feb 2022 #6
Supposedly it's down again today: Tomconroy Feb 2022 #8
I wonder what they crossed over that bridge. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2022 #12
If it was up one day and down the next, maybe it was just practice... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #13
they can be deployed in matter of a few hr's ! seen it ! monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #15
That's what they're for. paleotn Feb 2022 #20
ABC reported that they found a mass grave of Russian backed rebels near the border, sounds like yaesu Feb 2022 #18
Yep. That's the latest "little green men" in Donetsk rumor. paleotn Feb 2022 #21
Three Things DallasNE Feb 2022 #22

Wounded Bear

(59,270 posts)
1. Pontoon bridges are temporary...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:27 PM
Feb 2022

once the major force is past that river crossing, they would normally find/repair/build a more permanent crossing.

You are apparently right about the Russians. I have heard of no indications that they are 'leaving' the area.

EndlessWire

(6,888 posts)
7. They are gaming right now.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:37 PM
Feb 2022

But, it was quicker to put up a bridge like that than trying to improve the river access with a newly constructed permanent bridge.

They love bridges. They put one up connecting Crimea to...somewhere...in Russia.

Am I wrong to think that yep, they are going to use that bridge? Sooner, rather than later? You don't have to answer. I'm just worried about everything. I have friends in England, and I am still worried about that Russian flotilla off the coast of Ireland. Still, we have the Irish Fishermen to help us out.

That would be a good name for a ball club.

Wounded Bear

(59,270 posts)
9. Also, some larger tanks can't cross on normal road bridges...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:45 PM
Feb 2022

I know the US Abrams tank can't.

As for the Irish, last I heard the Russkis moved their excercises to a different patch of ocean. Not like it's crowded out there.

Rivers can be a major obstacle to military movements, but since at least WWII, most countries have gotten pretty good at quick deployment of pontoon bridges. Ukraine is mostly pretty good tank country (when not in the muddy season) but there are several major rivers to cross.

paleotn

(18,372 posts)
17. Yep. The muddy season. It's coming.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:02 PM
Feb 2022

And winter is drawing to an end in western Europe from a nat. gas heating perspective. Puty's window of opportunity is closing.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. "Most pontoon bridges are designed for temporary use...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:29 PM
Feb 2022
Most pontoon bridges are designed for temporary use, but bridges across water bodies with a constant water level can remain in place much longer. Hobart Bridge, a long pontoon bridge built 1943 in Hobart, was only replaced after 21 years. The fourth Galata Bridge that spans the Golden Horn in Istanbul, Turkey was built in 1912 and operated for 80 years.


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontoon_bridge

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,289 posts)
11. What's his game? Daily proclamations of war? Invading countries?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:51 PM
Feb 2022

Occupying and stealing Crimea? Lying about withdrawing, when he's becoming more threatening.

I don't know what you mean by "that's his game".

paleotn

(18,372 posts)
19. Ham handed at best. He's as predictable as the sunrise.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:17 PM
Feb 2022

"I'm pulling back." No you're not (per western satellites, and other forms of intel gathering). Latest rumor is masked "little green men" are back in Donetsk setting up a pre-text for war. So original. Ask Hitler and Poland. Another rumor is Puty is pissed as hell that his moves are being intercepted and telegraphed back to him by the west before he makes them. Makes sense, really. Apologies to Al Gore, but we invented the goddamn internet and have resources beyond Putin's wildest dreams with respect to signal intel. His communication networks appear to be so hacked that DC is reading Russian communications as quickly as the the Russians are. Never underestimate the power of a 700+ billion a year defense budget, not even counting CIA, NSA and all the really black stuff.

Wounded Bear

(59,270 posts)
13. If it was up one day and down the next, maybe it was just practice...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 09:13 PM
Feb 2022

they do that in the Army sometimes.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. ABC reported that they found a mass grave of Russian backed rebels near the border, sounds like
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:06 PM
Feb 2022

the false flag is about to be raised.

paleotn

(18,372 posts)
21. Yep. That's the latest "little green men" in Donetsk rumor.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:21 PM
Feb 2022

Hitler says...Hey! That was my idea! Poland retorts...yea, we know.

DallasNE

(7,439 posts)
22. Three Things
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:47 PM
Feb 2022

They tend to lose air, so you need an air compressor truck handy to keep inflating them. The pontoons are a target for small arms fire, so you need the area to be secured 24/7. They are single lane with a slow speed limit so they can be a bottleneck.

Back in the 60's I was part of a bridge platoon, and you can span a large river with them, they can be put up in a hurry, but they have their limitations too.

The weather has been seasonally warm so one wonders how well those new roads will stand up under the traffic load. I could see mud slowing down an assault.

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