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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many malignancies on our body politic will we endure before we excise them?
The cancer of Trump worship has already rendered the GOP a putrescent shell empty of anything noble or thoughtful. Currently, they oppose democracy and favor violence. Beyond that, they have no discernible "policies".
Some of the cancer has metastasized with the assistance of corrupted and/or thoughtless media platforms. And, even a few of "us" have let the seriousness of the national sickness to numb us into complacency. Will acceptance not follow complacency?
A lot of people in our government are criminals. A lot of former government officials are criminals. They should be prosecuted, convicted, imprisoned and barred from ever holding elective office again. We know what should be done and we have the laws and personnel to do it.
The question that remains is "Do our leaders have the will?"
CrispyQ
(36,484 posts)Unfortunately, the ones who can make the changes we need are the very ones who benefit from the current system.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Our political system is completely rotten and corrupt by big money and big corporations. You cannot get elected without their money in almost all cases. You dont get that money unless you agree to their positions. The quid pro quo is there but too hard to prove since no one is investigating. Add in the revolving door with Wall Street and defense contractors and you have the looting of our treasury and no money for regular Americans. How is it the last huge tax cut was passed where over 80% of the money went to big corporations and the 1%? Quid pro quo, the politicians agreed to benefit the ones that gave them the money to the detriment of the rest. The Richs tax cuts were enshrined and our small amount only lasted a couple of years. W. Bush did the same thing.
Couple all of this with the big advertisers (Who are the big donors) who control our media. The propaganda is also designed to benefit the wealthy donor class blaming our problems on minorities, immigrants, disabled, liberals
instead of the real culprits walking out the back door with our money. It is designed to get the brainwashed to vote against their interests.
These are the two root causes of most of our problems and why we cannot fix them. Now Republicans cannot be seen compromising on anything so our system has broken down.
We need to organize nationally to bring these root causes to light and pressure Democrats to work towards ending this. The media will fight this as they are the recipients of all of this campaign money.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Big money & Big tech dark money messaging machine.
Ninga
(8,276 posts)advance. As ever, we dont know what we dont know.
So we search, look for, pray, implore, and live in a state of heightened anxiety.
We have clues to possible actions, but no concrete evidence. Will there be Jan 6 nationally televised on network TV hearings?
No one knows.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)DUers? Democrats? Voters in general? "The American People?"
Then, the question is: What powers do the "we" you mention have to do what you are suggesting?
brooklynite
(94,634 posts)Point 2: Criminal conviction does not prevent someone from running for office. The only limitation comes from Impeachment and Conviction.
Point 3: What "will" are you demanding of our leaders that you're not getting?
gab13by13
(21,371 posts)or the will to investigate.
Is it too partisan to investigate politicians?
Is it too partisan to investigate former cabinet members?
Is it too partisan to investigate Trump advisors?
Is it too partisan to investigate a former president?
Dan Goldman believes it is wrong for DOJ to not join in the Fulton county DA's investigation of the attempt to overturn the Georgia election. Georgia was only one piece of the puzzle. Goldman said that the DA does not have the manpower and resources to do a proper investigation.
Dan Goldman said that if the select committee is considering giving people like Jeffrey Clarke immunity from prosecution that means that DOJ has zero interest in prosecuting Clarke. There is a ton of evidence already out there that warrants a DOJ investigation of Clarke.
We will need a monstrous effort to GOTV to overcome the GQP rigging the election, and the #1 source of inspiration will be to indict the top people behind the attempted overthrow of our government, which is ongoing and only increasing.
DOJ needs to create a special grand jury, just like it did for Watergate. This insurrection is so much more dangerous and pales in comparison to Watergate. DOJ did its job back then and that special grand jury even named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator.
This needs to be done now, before the upcoming election.
brooklynite
(94,634 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)unprecedented remedies and we sure don't want to do anything that hasn't been done before.
I should have known better than to post about a problem without an itemized list of actions guaranteed to solve it.
My bad.
Scrivener7
(50,957 posts)dalton99a
(81,534 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in Democratic-dominant districts. We don't have many, but more try to get elected every year, and it's time to identify them.
Sift first for good character. Then for ideology and demonstrated competence. This is basically it.
Look for liars -- the easiest way to identify people who can't be trusted and should never be elected. Liars aren't somehow transformed by their own high-sounding rhetoric into noble figures.
Of course for lying slanderers. It's a guaranteed sign of very bad character. But if their campaigns smear Democrats, that also means they can't win by telling truth about themselves and what they're up to.
Most bad eggs can be identified just by looking for lies. But examine records to uncover conservatives and "Sinemas." Don't just believe candidates! If they don't have records, think hard about introducing an unknown into government. Government gets new influxes of newbies every election anyway.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)That law that permits felons to run for public office. That would cripple the republican party because they have committed serious crimes .