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JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:24 AM Jan 2022

Susan Collins can't rule out supporting Trump in 2024 despite voting to convict him over Jan. 6

"Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) on Sunday would not rule out supporting former President Donald Trump in 2024 even though she voted to convict him after the attack on Jan. 6, 2020.



During an interview on ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos noted that Trump had supporters on Saturday that he could pardon the Jan. 6 defendants if he wins the presidency again in 2024.

"Given that, can you imagine any circumstance where you could support his election?" the ABC host asked.

"Well, we're a long ways from 2024," Collins replied. "But let me say this. I do not think the president -- President Trump should have made that pledge to do pardons. We should let the judicial process proceed."

.....

"It was and you voted to convict President Trump," Stephanopoulos pointed out. "Why can't you rule out supporting him in 2024?"

"Certainly, it's not likely," Collins insisted, "given the many other qualified candidates that we have that have expressed interest in running. So it's very unlikely."

https://www.rawstory.com/susan-collins-donald-trump-2024/

and while she is talking out of both sides of her mouth, the fact that she wouldn't rule it out, only highlights just how deranged the republicans in congress are, and just how much peril our country is in


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Susan Collins can't rule out supporting Trump in 2024 despite voting to convict him over Jan. 6 (Original Post) JohnSJ Jan 2022 OP
Depends on her amount of concern shrike3 Jan 2022 #1
She is a very stupid person. madaboutharry Jan 2022 #2
Not stupid. Coward. Afraid of the armchair TwitterIdiots sending out nasty tweets. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #6
like most of the congressional republicans, Alex JohnSJ Jan 2022 #8
No, the people of Maine are to blame. Collins is smart to recognize their stupidity. dem4decades Jan 2022 #13
I think she has this twisted vision of herself as some kind of caretaker of the Republican Party LiberalLovinLug Jan 2022 #35
Disgusting and despicable as ever dalton99a Jan 2022 #3
You mean yet another Republican on yet another Republican news outlet getting sweet airtime Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #10
I hope the folks in Maine that voted for her are proud of this mealy-mouthed spineless sea urchin Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #4
The "small govt" party can't risk their govt jobs lame54 Jan 2022 #31
Susan Collins Concern Is Quite Concerning wyn borkins Jan 2022 #5
Not up till 2026 lame54 Jan 2022 #32
Collins Slammer Jan 2022 #42
Steady Susan at it again, I see... Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #7
What a " " Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #9
If he thinks he will need to pardon them, he AND she are already admit that they did something wrong MiniMe Jan 2022 #11
I don't typcially care for GOPers anyway, but... MissMillie Jan 2022 #12
I hate them all but she is particularly despicable with her hypocrisy. dem4decades Jan 2022 #15
She needs her meds checked. Something is really wrong with that woman. 634-5789 Jan 2022 #14
nope it's all about $$$$$$$ and power mucifer Jan 2022 #18
She is so lost. . Emile Jan 2022 #16
she is evil and greedy and power hungry. mucifer Jan 2022 #17
She also said Biden is politicizing the Supreme Court by appointing a black woman. Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #19
How did Sara Gideon lose, wonder radius777 Jan 2022 #20
They're al criminals at this point Johonny Jan 2022 #21
To whom it may concern: Blue Owl Jan 2022 #22
reminds me of some Talking Heads lyrics from Psycho Killer: IcyPeas Jan 2022 #23
Well, didn't all republicans take an oath to don trump when they were sworn in? spanone Jan 2022 #24
FULL .... OF .... SHIT !! There are no "good" GQP pols any longer. Fuck em uponit7771 Jan 2022 #25
is this after or before he called her wacky susan collins? demtenjeep Jan 2022 #26
Worthless oxygen stealer. marmar Jan 2022 #27
Same Susan Collins who said lees1975 Jan 2022 #28
and Manchin whole-heartedly endorsed her, which she blasted all over Maine as proof of her Celerity Jan 2022 #33
WTF? Martin68 Jan 2022 #29
She's not up till 2026... lame54 Jan 2022 #30
She's just ducking the question. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #34
Good God BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #36
You elected a Stupid Dangerous Cha Jan 2022 #37
She suffering from memory loss? Emile Jan 2022 #38
It's her usual modus operandi of trying to play both sides while she waits cstanleytech Jan 2022 #39
the ol' hagg need's to be put in a nursing home just like moscow mitch !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #40
What a stupid idiot SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #41

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
2. She is a very stupid person.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:30 AM
Jan 2022

The people of Maine need to retire her the next time. they have the opportunity to elect someone else.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
6. Not stupid. Coward. Afraid of the armchair TwitterIdiots sending out nasty tweets.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jan 2022

It’s inexplicable, how one can even think of supporting the leader of a coup attempt on your own country, party affiliation and solidarity is the excuse? Then that fascist loving party needs to go away, forever.

But the media puppets on air, like this example, never ask the obvious questions, or the cowards run from the questions that would expose the yellowishness of the Republican guest.

Why, it’s almost like the talking heads were handed a script from which they must not deviate, penalty being loss of cushiest job in world…just like real journalists do…not. You can almost see the corporate boardrooms strings attached to the talking head puppets if u look close enough.

Unbelievable, but there it is. Plain enough to see, repeated same methodology on a loop, day after day propaganda gif. Americans in general have no idea how misinformed and uninformed they really are about most everything. Worked for decades, not gonna change that now just cause of a coup attempt. A homogenous worse than useless major media, all rested from the same mold.

Amazing.

But watch…soon as the indictments drop Republicans all, except the psychotic, will drop tRump like a hot tamale, all this will go down the memory hole and the mass media will be shovelling dirt over the dead bodies full time.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
35. I think she has this twisted vision of herself as some kind of caretaker of the Republican Party
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 06:35 PM
Jan 2022

That she is the foil. And that role doesn't change no matter what her party or a leader of her party does.

That is her job. That is her mission and why she continues to run and win. She performs a role for them. And does it to perfection. She plays the part of being naive about everything with the benefit of showing that a Republican can be somewhat "reasonable". At least in promises, not necessarily in practice.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. You mean yet another Republican on yet another Republican news outlet getting sweet airtime
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jan 2022

to spread the gospel of hypocrisy? With nary a rebuttal? Yes, disgusting and par for the course for we see nothing mass media.

Journalism isn’t dead in America, but it’s on a respirator.

When will any of the major propaganda networks give a Sedition Committee person long, sweet airtime to lay out the coup plot uninterrupted…one hour special…Insurrection Day: The Anatomy of a Coup Attempt.

There is a mountain of free research material for free, if worried about the cost…how about it?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. I hope the folks in Maine that voted for her are proud of this mealy-mouthed spineless sea urchin
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

She is Exhibit A as to what is wrong with Congress today. No values. No code of ethics. No standards. A sure shot to either do the bidding of her party or strategically opt not to (with their full consent behind closed doors, of course).

History books will remember her as....oh no they won't. She won't be worth remembering.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
5. Susan Collins Concern Is Quite Concerning
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jan 2022

Her concern is concerning (to us all)
Why I'm just so durn concerned, says Susan Collins
Is there some way to remove Susan Collins (from her concern)
Susan Collins! You should be concerned about your upcoming removal

Slammer

(714 posts)
42. Collins
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 10:12 PM
Jan 2022

Yeah, she's not up for election until 2026 and has already spoken out repeatedly against Trump.

If she from her perch of as close to complete safety (as close a lawmaker can get) can't speak out and say "no" to having Trump again, what hope is there that the rest of their party would stand up and say "no"?


Sure, that might change if Trump gets deep into personal legal problems.

But this question to Collins came in the context of Trump having admitted in writing that he lost the 2020 election and was depending on Pence to overturn it...and that Trump publicly announced he was going to pardon the foot soldiers who helped him try to overthrow the government.

If you can't stand up in that context to say "no", when could you?

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
11. If he thinks he will need to pardon them, he AND she are already admit that they did something wrong
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jan 2022

There is no need to pardon someone who hasn't been found guilty of a crime. And accepting a pardon is admitting a crime. And thinking that you need to pardon those people is admitting that they are criminals. Ugh. Unbelievable

MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
12. I don't typcially care for GOPers anyway, but...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jan 2022

...she becomes less and less likeable over time.

I roll my eyes almost every time I read something about her.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
19. She also said Biden is politicizing the Supreme Court by appointing a black woman.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

She's a Republican, through and through.

The difference between a moderate Republican and a MAGA Republican is what they are willing to say out loud.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
20. How did Sara Gideon lose, wonder
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jan 2022

if it was racism against a brown-skinned woman.

Gideon was a solid 'mainstream Dem' candidate, the perfect 'soccer mom' type, who led in most of the polling.

Yet Maine went for washed up Collins while also voting for Biden on the same ticket. If they voted for Biden, then why not also Gideon.

Just seems as there could've been a Bradley effect to this race, in what is a blue but also very white state.

IcyPeas

(21,865 posts)
23. reminds me of some Talking Heads lyrics from Psycho Killer:
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 08:46 PM
Jan 2022

"You're talking but you're not saying anything"

spanone

(135,830 posts)
24. Well, didn't all republicans take an oath to don trump when they were sworn in?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jan 2022

appears that way.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
28. Same Susan Collins who said
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jan 2022

she would never vote to put someone on the court who was not pro-choice, and then voted for three anti-abortion justices?

That Susan Collins?

Celerity

(43,337 posts)
33. and Manchin whole-heartedly endorsed her, which she blasted all over Maine as proof of her
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jan 2022

centrist bi-partisanship (and also played up the fact, tacking the other way, that she did NOT vote to convict Trump on the first impeachment) She only voted to convict on one count AFTER she was safely in the Senate for another 6 years.




Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin endorses Republican Sen. Susan Collins’s reelection

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-sen-joe-manchin-endorses-republican-sen-susan-collinss-reelection/2019/04/11/57d57bde-5c9a-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html



it worked:


Do Democrats Who Supported Susan Collins in 2020 Regret Their Vote? Nope.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/01/17/do-democrats-who-supported-susan-collins-in-2020-regret-their-vote/



Mary Ann Lynch, of Cape Elizabeth, Maine, is a model Democrat. She began her political career as a staffer for Democratic Governor Joe Brennan and has supported the party with donations and volunteer work for more than 40 years. In the past two elections, she voted a straight Democratic slate—Joe Biden, U.S. Representative Chellie Pingree, Governor Janet Mills—with one exception. Last fall, with control of the Senate on the line and the Brett Kavanaugh hearings a traumatic recent memory, Lynch cast a ballot for Republican Senator Susan Collins. She has no regrets. “I’m a ticket splitter,” Lynch told me. “I don’t often split, but I do split. I vote for the person who I feel would be the best for Maine and for the country. Instead of saying we need more Democrats or more Republicans, I would say we would need more people like Susan Collins who reach across the aisle to get things done.”

Lynch does not share the ominous feeling, increasingly common among Democrats, that time is running out. A paper-thin majority in Congress is likely to disappear next year, leaving just months to pass paid family leave and protect voters from conservative attempts at disenfranchisement. As the likes of Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema pettifog and delay, many Democrats wish for just one more Senate seat. And as Texas and other states pass restrictive abortion laws unchecked by the Supreme Court, frustrated Democrats turn to voters in Maine, who returned Collins to the Senate last fall despite her vote for Kavanaugh and the Republican tax bill, and ask: Why?

Exit polling indicates that 13 percent of Collins’s support in 2020 came from registered Democrats. Women overall broke for Collins over her challenger, Sara Gideon, 49 to 46 percent. How did these constituencies make a decision seemingly so against their own interests? How do they feel about it now? Ask them, and their answers often evoke nostalgia for things lost—paper mills, union jobs, and a bipartisan, collegial Congress. They also share a lack of urgency about the slow-moving constitutional crisis instigated by Donald Trump, a sign, along with the election of Glenn Youngkin in Virginia this fall, that Democrats will have to do more to win than point to Trump’s misdeeds, especially now that he’s off the ballot.

snip

Collins’s votes in the Senate since her reelection have been just fine with Green, too. This summer, she helped defeat the For the People Act, arguing that its sweeping voting rights provisions—making Election Day a federal holiday, restoring eligibility to felons who’ve served their sentences, keeping names on voting rolls, automatically registering eligible voters—went far beyond preserving the right to vote. Green wasn’t convinced either that such sweeping action was necessary in response to laws such as Georgia’s, which forbids giving water to people waiting to vote. (With many polling places closed in Black areas, lines are often long.) Should people be allowed, Green mused, to give voters even such small gifts as a bottle of water? “What is that law saying? I don’t know,” he said. “Leave it to Susan. I trust her.”

snip


maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
34. She's just ducking the question.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:54 PM
Jan 2022

Typical GQP Senatorial tactic - don't answer a question you don't want to answer.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
39. It's her usual modus operandi of trying to play both sides while she waits
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jan 2022

to see which way the wind is blowing so she can then choose the one that she thinks will personally benefit her the most.

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