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applegrove

(119,077 posts)
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 04:45 PM Jan 2022

Manchin Wants to 'Start Over' on Biden Spending Bill

Manchin Wants to ‘Start Over’ on Biden Spending Bill

January 20, 2022 at 2:42 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 108 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/01/20/manchin-wants-to-start-over-on-biden-spending-bill/

"SNIP......

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) doesn’t sound ready to move quickly on any narrower spending bill, Politico reports.

He indicated he wanted to “start with clean sheet of paper and start over” with negotiations on the climate and social spending package.

Said Manchin: “We’ll just be starting from scratch whenever we start.”

......SNIP"

Oh for F***'S SAKE

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Manchin Wants to 'Start Over' on Biden Spending Bill (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2022 OP
This guy is just spying on us. pwb Jan 2022 #1
Nope, no way ebbie15644 Jan 2022 #2
Start over? He hasn't done squat yet Walleye Jan 2022 #3
You scratch first, Joe. dchill Jan 2022 #4
damn right! WRITE US your bill, Joe Manchin.. DemocraticPatriot Jan 2022 #41
Don't waste your time with this clown C_U_L8R Jan 2022 #5
+10000000000000000 Celerity Jan 2022 #16
He's just trying to slow down the process. Baitball Blogger Jan 2022 #6
I'm not sure what that means, without his vote, there is no loop. tritsofme Jan 2022 #11
Start Over? NEVER, not for this clown. Grrrrrrr. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #7
Scratch is what he wants it to be mvd Jan 2022 #8
No, Joe just wants to stay in the spotlight any way he can nebby70 Jan 2022 #9
WTF ever! MoonRiver Jan 2022 #10
Biden should tell him where to put that clean sheet of paper. marie999 Jan 2022 #12
We'll have to start two steps ahead of where we left off, Emile Jan 2022 #13
What an abusive spouse Mossfern Jan 2022 #14
Has any Republican Senator indicated any willingness to spend anything on climate change? Tom Rinaldo Jan 2022 #15
He just wants to waste more of our time! PortTack Jan 2022 #17
Mr. Good Faith. He makes me ill. Politicub Jan 2022 #18
Nope, we're going to focus our efforts on getting rid of you, pal. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #19
His intent is to do as much damage as possible to Biden and our party. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #20
Dragging it out for 10 more months. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #21
Kicking the can down the road again, Senator? Bettie Jan 2022 #22
Progressives said this would happen. nt. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2022 #23
He'll have us all dweller Jan 2022 #24
My suggestion moniss Jan 2022 #25
Start sending OSHA inspectors everywhere in WV and start writing them up. nt Hotler Jan 2022 #33
Great idea moniss Jan 2022 #34
Bad faith actor says what? Efilroft Sul Jan 2022 #26
Lucy has the football again. Corgigal Jan 2022 #27
Enough budkin Jan 2022 #28
I remember john boner using the same sentence in regards to the aca ... start over on a clean sheet Fullduplexxx Jan 2022 #29
So he can waste another six months. Voltaire2 Jan 2022 #30
Blowing smoke up our rear ends will not work this time! Emile Jan 2022 #31
A little too late for that sir JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #32
He's Mitch's time burner lame54 Jan 2022 #35
Lemme guess, he'd still kill the bill. sakabatou Jan 2022 #36
Fuck it! Write the whole bill. In It to Win It Jan 2022 #37
Someone should remind him canetoad Jan 2022 #38
F Manchin nt helpisontheway Jan 2022 #39
Translation: uh oh, the cameras are pointing elsewhere - gotta do something. Vinca Jan 2022 #40
Exactly. Time for him to put up, or shut up. DemocraticPatriot Jan 2022 #42
Fuck You Manchin. Go play fiddlesticks with Kristen. Tommymac Jan 2022 #43

DemocraticPatriot

(4,561 posts)
41. damn right! WRITE US your bill, Joe Manchin..
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jan 2022

You might as well tell us what you will "allow". Getting something would be better than nothing---

but we don't need to play games with you, Joemanchin, for another six months, only to end up with NOTHING again.



Now that BBB and the voting rights bill have been turned back, I'm tempted to think that you are missing all the media attention, and would like to get us back on that merry-go-round again...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,918 posts)
7. Start Over? NEVER, not for this clown. Grrrrrrr.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jan 2022

I agree with the posters who say: keep him out of the loop.

Maybe we should start calling him Lucy!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,919 posts)
15. Has any Republican Senator indicated any willingness to spend anything on climate change?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:04 PM
Jan 2022

If not than Manchin is the 50th vote needed to do something regarding the climate crisis. Supposedly in his last "offer" to Biden in December (which he withdrew) significant spending on climate proposals was included.

We literally owe it to the planet, and to both younger and future generations, to lock that part in, one way or another.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. Nope, we're going to focus our efforts on getting rid of you, pal.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jan 2022

Waste of time to try to legislate at this point.

Irish_Dem

(48,717 posts)
20. His intent is to do as much damage as possible to Biden and our party.
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jan 2022

He could care less about the issues and process.

It is about throwing hand grenades.

Bettie

(16,166 posts)
22. Kicking the can down the road again, Senator?
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jan 2022

Because it feels like you are wasting everyone's time, running out the clock until the next election, on behalf of your best buddy McConnell.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
25. My suggestion
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jan 2022

would be to first make his recent votes come with a heavy price. Biden has the authority to have Federal involvement/support in both manpower and money "slowed" by various means. Extra inspections, reconsideration of permits/project plans etc. Begin to reduce staffing at Federal offices. A "realignment/reassessment" is certainly in order. To not do this is letting Manchin crap in his hand and rub it in your face. He will never vote for anything further than the already passed infrastructure bill and he only did that after he got hefty reductions and because what was left was good for his pals and his pocket.

I know all about the screaming media claiming we can't do it because we will lose the Senate/Congress. Given the votes yesterday that is all but certain anyway. The game plan of the GQP with respect to the filibuster is going to be similar to what they have done in various state legislatures regarding gubernatorial/state AG powers. They vastly expand them when they are in power and then just before losing power they heavily restrict them during lame duck sessions. They will do the same with the filibuster.

Fullduplexxx

(7,890 posts)
29. I remember john boner using the same sentence in regards to the aca ... start over on a clean sheet
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:54 PM
Jan 2022

All the senators puked out that very same sentence

Voltaire2

(13,382 posts)
30. So he can waste another six months.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jan 2022

He can just fuck off already.
Congress is done for this session.
Biden needs to go to executive orders for whatever can be done there.

JustAnotherGen

(32,122 posts)
32. A little too late for that sir
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jan 2022

I'm opposed to any discussions of a BBB without lifting the SALT Cap.

Tom Malinowski voting no on a bill that didn't include the lift - would assure victory for him in the 7th district.

If Manchin is serious - NJ's 7th Democratics Party Members need to start slamming Tom now to VOTE no. All NJ reps should vote no - unless SALT cap is lifted.

Manchin's turn in the barrel.

canetoad

(17,227 posts)
38. Someone should remind him
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 01:04 AM
Jan 2022

That he is the employee of the American people. Should they be bearing the cost of his indecision?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
43. Fuck You Manchin. Go play fiddlesticks with Kristen.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jan 2022

You are not relevant anymore- you have played your cards and fucked The Constitution.

I'll say no more you Benedict Arnold.

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