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RandySF

(59,643 posts)
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:35 AM Jan 2022

**BOOM** Leticia James: TRUMPS ARRANGED AND OVERSAW FINANCIAL MISTATEMENTS **BOOM**


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Tom Winter
@Tom_Winter
BREAKING / NBC News: Former president Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Ivanka Trump are all alleged to have been involved in either overseeing or arranging financial misstatements to financial and insurance institutions, says the New York AG in a court filing docketed tonight.
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**BOOM** Leticia James: TRUMPS ARRANGED AND OVERSAW FINANCIAL MISTATEMENTS **BOOM** (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2022 OP
Whooo baby. MontanaMama Jan 2022 #1
That is a beautiful quote you show on the bottom of your post. Escurumbele Jan 2022 #58
We'll see where it goes, but loved this reply: Hoyt Jan 2022 #2
that's a great reply!! LOL n/t orleans Jan 2022 #28
Lol. The replies... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2022 #32
those are great too! thanks! nt orleans Jan 2022 #37
Awesome! lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #46
Awesome Roc2020 Jan 2022 #83
Sweet. n/t iluvtennis Jan 2022 #91
From a reply to this tweet, here's the filing: Leghorn21 Jan 2022 #3
Michael Cohen told us about this stuff about 3 years ago FakeNoose Jan 2022 #53
"over-stated by a factor of 3" the sq footage of his placial condo,,,, lindysalsagal Jan 2022 #55
Lied about square footage too? LiberalFighter Jan 2022 #90
Is this any more serious than their phony "university" crime? Because that sure didn't mucifer Jan 2022 #4
Yes. Vdizzle Jan 2022 #6
Probably if for no other reason than because they're defrauding large institutions Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #7
He should have gone to jail for the so called trump university, it was fraud, isn't that why Escurumbele Jan 2022 #60
Bernie Madeoff only went to jail because he stole from rich people. OMGWTF Jan 2022 #66
Fake Universities and Steaks are small time ... aggiesal Jan 2022 #8
He was protected in Florida by the AG on that JI7 Jan 2022 #23
Yes. Stealing from poor suckers gets you a fine. Stealing from other rich people gets you jail time. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2022 #34
I keep wondering ForgedCrank Jan 2022 #35
Me too birdographer Jan 2022 #50
I'm with you on this... RevBrotherThomas Jan 2022 #65
me three... myohmy2 Jan 2022 #78
yup Skittles Jan 2022 #88
No, not if they're not tying criminality to it which they would do for me and you uponit7771 Jan 2022 #42
I'm no lawyer wryter2000 Jan 2022 #62
Tish James is Not playing, Loving It. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #5
She is a MARVEL! calimary Jan 2022 #9
IF you have a few hours the filing is linked below. Trump org is finished. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #19
Then indict them all and bring it to a Court Room. WarGamer Jan 2022 #10
(phoosh) krkaufman Jan 2022 #74
Go get 'em, Leticia! WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2022 #11
Lordy.... WomanWhoRoars Jan 2022 #12
I have a feeling... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2022 #14
If she pulls this off, I will build a shrine to her in my apartment! smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #22
And I will worship at it!! WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2022 #25
You will be welcome! smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #26
Woot! Bayard Jan 2022 #13
Will this be regarded as Civil or Criminal? Because if it is Civil, I think that probably will JohnSJ Jan 2022 #15
Going through the documents it talks of IRS fraud. Link below. Pretty sure this has legs. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #17
Thanks for the link. I am not saying it doesn't have legs, I am just not sure if the penalty if JohnSJ Jan 2022 #20
The filing is 115 page's & I'm on page 32 ! so far this mofo is in ' DEEP SHIT " ! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #16
Yep. Bank Fraud, Tax Fraud. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #18
don't forget about the I.R.S. !! al capone time ! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #21
+1 dalton99a Jan 2022 #24
I've seen that cell at Alcatraz. murielm99 Jan 2022 #30
State laws broken. Does that mean multigraincracker Jan 2022 #39
commander in chief rates LEAVENWORTH , monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #41
Ten years in Leavenworth. Or... Another Jackalope Jan 2022 #69
send him to Rikers Island in GP dclarston13 Jan 2022 #73
D.C. lockup is a hospitable interim place, I hear. Grasswire2 Jan 2022 #76
Oh boy! DC Lock up dclarston13 Jan 2022 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author multigraincracker Jan 2022 #40
Start popping the popcorn Hulk Jan 2022 #27
that is certainly what I'm hoping the lack of action so far is all about. Ligyron Jan 2022 #48
Let the fat piece of shit and his dumplings fry Blue Owl Jan 2022 #29
I am shocked Eric wasn't involved. nt Gore1FL Jan 2022 #31
They just let him plan the parties. lindysalsagal Jan 2022 #56
Eric is the Trump Family's "Fredo" RevBrotherThomas Jan 2022 #72
Lock them up LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #33
I'm shocked RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2022 #36
The shift is coming from Trump over to Desantis. Jon King Jan 2022 #38
+1, DeathSentence wont bring the 5-10% deplorable base that Putin's Whore brought with him though uponit7771 Jan 2022 #51
That will create a lovely little slap fest...... getagrip_already Jan 2022 #84
+1, DeathSentence will have to have a campaign of hurting brown people before the true ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #85
Tish James be like... jcgoldie Jan 2022 #43
Not fucking around, is she? DinahMoeHum Jan 2022 #44
I'd love to see this image of James projected on Merde-Lago. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2022 #89
Great news! burrowowl Jan 2022 #45
Is this filing for Civil Court or Criminal Court? msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #47
Civil, but I think the criminal is being looked at by the area DOJ uponit7771 Jan 2022 #52
If Letticia James is still the AG, why not pursue a Criminal filing for Fraud Charges? msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #75
Statutes of limitations uponit7771 Jan 2022 #77
Of course, face palming myself. msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #86
Funny. They may all go to jail, like Capone, on charges unrelated to campaign & 1/6 issues. Love it! machoneman Jan 2022 #49
Time to get a cold beer and sit back and laugh! WillUSAF Jan 2022 #54
Better lawyer up, Donnie! I hear Ronald MacDonald is free! lindysalsagal Jan 2022 #57
Awesome! Fabulous! Incredible! So, now tell me hamsterjill Jan 2022 #59
About time wryter2000 Jan 2022 #61
Probably musclecar6 Jan 2022 #63
Misstatements, by definition, are not fraudulent. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2022 #64
not necessarily true PRETZEL Jan 2022 #70
That sounds too close to reasonable doubt. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2022 #79
Justice must prevail Mysterian Jan 2022 #67
Jeffrey Toobin pointed out this morning that on some documents trump said his trump tower.... George II Jan 2022 #68
So what exactly will this filing accomplish? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #71
Take them all DOWN, Ms. James. (nt) Paladin Jan 2022 #80
.....YIPEE..... titanicdave Jan 2022 #81
Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals. Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #82
Watched Rachel last night Marthe48 Jan 2022 #92

Escurumbele

(3,408 posts)
58. That is a beautiful quote you show on the bottom of your post.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jan 2022

I passed it to my list of "Quote of the Day". Thank you

Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)
3. From a reply to this tweet, here's the filing:
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jan 2022
https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/supplemental-verified-petition-2022-01-18.pdf

It’s *only* 115 pages, so take yer time!!



Hey, here’s ole Allen Weisselberg!! Been waiting to hear from HIM more than a few years now!



FakeNoose

(32,865 posts)
53. Michael Cohen told us about this stuff about 3 years ago
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jan 2022

It's nice that Allen Weisselberg is backing him up and basically saying the same thing. I do plan to read this but I'm neither a lawyer nor an accountant.

I'll pretty much take AG Letitia James' word that this crime family is now in deep doo-doo.

Lock them all up, including Weisselberg.

lindysalsagal

(20,785 posts)
55. "over-stated by a factor of 3" the sq footage of his placial condo,,,,
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jan 2022

Gee, who could have imagined that an owner of a fake college and a failed casino might defraud the govt on the value of his assets????

mucifer

(23,600 posts)
4. Is this any more serious than their phony "university" crime? Because that sure didn't
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:44 AM
Jan 2022

take them down. Please someone say yes. Everything is so depressing these days.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Probably if for no other reason than because they're defrauding large institutions
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:01 AM
Jan 2022

And would've signed paperwork under penalty of perjury certifying the accuracy ... that's different than just running a shady night school that was bilking regular Joe's with promises of getting lessons written by Trump and teachers picked by Trump (neither was true).

Escurumbele

(3,408 posts)
60. He should have gone to jail for the so called trump university, it was fraud, isn't that why
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jan 2022

Bernie Madoff went to jail? He went to jail because of fraud, that is the same thing that trump did with his university and his "foundation", he committed fraud on both. He should have been in jail and should have never been allowed to run for office.

Why is it that criminals are allowed to run for office? that needs to change.

aggiesal

(8,950 posts)
8. Fake Universities and Steaks are small time ...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:21 AM
Jan 2022

compared to grifting from the public troft and with foreign assistance.

ForgedCrank

(1,786 posts)
35. I keep wondering
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:50 AM
Jan 2022

how many more of these "bombshells" we are going to endure and not a single thing ever comes of them.
I'm just sick and tired of hearing about that ass.
If I never saw or heard his name again I would be quite content with that. Ignoring Trump and paying him zero attention is probably the worst think anyone could ever do to him.

birdographer

(1,371 posts)
50. Me too
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jan 2022

I have to admit I pay less and less attention to such things now. Years of them have come and gone and he continues on with nothing changed at all. Nothing will come of it.

RevBrotherThomas

(838 posts)
65. I'm with you on this...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jan 2022

We've been hearing the BOOMS and WOOTS, the jail memes, etc. ad nauseum since the beginning of this mob boss's 1st impeachment trial.

I'll be impressed when I hear a judge sentence him and his klan, and he/they get led away in cuffs. Until then... whatever.

myohmy2

(3,205 posts)
78. me three...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jan 2022

...call me when they have a pic of him behind bars in a striped jail suit with a number...

...

Skittles

(153,262 posts)
88. yup
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 09:46 PM
Jan 2022

our weariness is very justified; the man has been grifting his entire life but has never been held accountable

WarGamer

(12,494 posts)
10. Then indict them all and bring it to a Court Room.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:22 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Convince 12/12 Jurors and SUCCESS!!!!!!!

krkaufman

(13,438 posts)
74. (phoosh)
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

Yeah, I’m not getting a “Boom!” feeling. Nobody’s been indicted, and some reports indicate this may only relate to civil suits.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
14. I have a feeling...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:34 AM
Jan 2022

I anybody can, SHE can. She's tough as nails, unimpressed by your "status", not scared of threats, and will follow the law to the letter. She may just be this country's savior.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. If she pulls this off, I will build a shrine to her in my apartment!
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:50 AM
Jan 2022

I so hope she is successful and this criminal, grifting family is finally put behind bars where they belong.

Bayard

(22,209 posts)
13. Woot!
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:34 AM
Jan 2022

I'm guessing she has plenty of evidence by now. It would be some serious karma payback if this is what finally lands his big ass in jail. I hope Ms. James has excellent bodyguards.

JohnSJ

(92,493 posts)
15. Will this be regarded as Civil or Criminal? Because if it is Civil, I think that probably will
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:39 AM
Jan 2022

only end up with monetary restitution



JohnSJ

(92,493 posts)
20. Thanks for the link. I am not saying it doesn't have legs, I am just not sure if the penalty if
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:45 AM
Jan 2022

they are found guilty would involve jail time


 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
16. The filing is 115 page's & I'm on page 32 ! so far this mofo is in ' DEEP SHIT " !
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:41 AM
Jan 2022

plus - the rug rat's !

murielm99

(30,780 posts)
30. I've seen that cell at Alcatraz.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:12 AM
Jan 2022

The Birdman's cell is marked and labelled, too.

Capone did not spend much time in his cell. He was dying of syphilis.

What a depressing place that former prison is! And haunted, too.

Response to monkeyman1 (Reply #21)

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
27. Start popping the popcorn
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:01 AM
Jan 2022

I have to believe there is a reason this Jan 6 commission is taking their sweet time....and all these lawsuits are coming together.....November 2022 😈

Ligyron

(7,645 posts)
48. that is certainly what I'm hoping the lack of action so far is all about.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jan 2022

sure, plenty of Trump's useful idiots have been arrested and charged but nothing much yet on the higher ups although that presser Garland gave and Joe's statement does encourage me.

What discourages me about this possible plan coordinating the hammer to come down at a time to maximize the political damage to the GOP in the next election is that... Dem Executive branch supposedly don't even talk to, nevermind plan anything like that with the DOJ. The mere appearance of such is abhorrent.

Dems always play it straight but unlike the old black and white movies and TV shows, the good guy doesn't win.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
38. The shift is coming from Trump over to Desantis.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:22 AM
Jan 2022

You can feel the shift coming as Trump is gradually being seen as a liability. The wing nuts will shift from him to Desantis so fast it will make his head spin.

Desantis will be their new king. They got about all they can get out of Trump. Desantis will be our opponent in 2024.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
51. +1, DeathSentence wont bring the 5-10% deplorable base that Putin's Whore brought with him though
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jan 2022

... ie their need to go to the point of voter denial and nullification to win.

The deplorable base is wedded to Benedict Donald come hell or high water DeathSentence doesn't have the "... I will hurt non whites..." bonafides Trump had

getagrip_already

(14,940 posts)
84. That will create a lovely little slap fest......
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jan 2022

Tfg will certainly poison the magat well if DeSantis or any other repug tries to drink from it.

Given his personality disorders, he could never handle another repug beating biden. He would rather biden win. Then he could still claim only he could win.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
85. +1, DeathSentence will have to have a campaign of hurting brown people before the true ...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jan 2022

... deplorable turn to him in any way.

Like you said, I don't think he can get that done before Benedict Donald poinsons that well

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,773 posts)
89. I'd love to see this image of James projected on Merde-Lago.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jan 2022

Better yet, on every wall inside wherever TFG & his "family" go.

msfiddlestix

(7,288 posts)
47. Is this filing for Civil Court or Criminal Court?
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jan 2022

I think I read elsewhere James is bringing a Civil case on Fraud charges, is she doing both simultaneously?

If Civil why not criminal? Or is Civil the strategy to bringing Criminal charges after?

msfiddlestix

(7,288 posts)
75. If Letticia James is still the AG, why not pursue a Criminal filing for Fraud Charges?
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 05:06 PM
Jan 2022

Too hard to prove?

That would be astonishing to me. But maybe that's the case, or that it's too weak? Or maybe easier to obtain documents proving fraud in a Civil lawsuit?

Just still puzzling.

 

WillUSAF

(91 posts)
54. Time to get a cold beer and sit back and laugh!
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:16 PM
Jan 2022

Any sane person knew that this was coming. Thank goodness they are pursuing them. I'm so happy to watch this orange fuck go down in flames.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
59. Awesome! Fabulous! Incredible! So, now tell me
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jan 2022

What the strategy is for holding them accountable rather than allowing them to stall, postpone and evade justice like they always seem to do!

I’ll wait…

wryter2000

(46,127 posts)
61. About time
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jan 2022

I guess the folks here who kept telling me these things take time were right. In fact, it might be best for us, and therefore for the country, if this sort of stuff is filling the news as the elections approaches as opposed to earlier.

musclecar6

(1,693 posts)
63. Probably
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jan 2022

None of them will go to prison for any of their numerous offenses in multiple states or federal crimes, but if it costs the con man, liar and a cheat money, we can enjoy that.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
70. not necessarily true
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jan 2022

if the misstatement is material in nature (i.e. a third party relying on them and altering their decisions based off those misstatements) and are done with intent to mislead that third party, then the issue of fraud may arise.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
79. That sounds too close to reasonable doubt.
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 05:40 PM
Jan 2022

My point is: she should have called fraud fraud. Don't give his lawyers any room.

George II

(67,782 posts)
68. Jeffrey Toobin pointed out this morning that on some documents trump said his trump tower....
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jan 2022

....condominium was 30,000 square feet, and on others it was only 10,000 square feet.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,926 posts)
71. So what exactly will this filing accomplish?
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 04:24 PM
Jan 2022

It's meaningless until there are actual indictments, arrests, trials, and convictions.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
81. .....YIPEE.....
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jan 2022

.....iT IS MY FERVENT HOPE THAT THEY ALL LOVE THE GRAY BAR HOTEL.......FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME......

Marthe48

(17,097 posts)
92. Watched Rachel last night
Thu Jan 20, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jan 2022

She was talking about trump business inflating property values for loans and insurance, dropping the same property values to lowball taxes, said one property was valued at 291 million dollars, but was actually not worth more than 50 million dollars. The source of the higher figure was a phone call between either a bank officer or insurance agent and eric trump.

I'd love to see someone do a skit with eric trump speaking through a handkerchief over his phone, trying to disguise his voice in that conversation. Or holding his nose shut with his fingers. lolol

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