Why is Liz Cheney more outspoken in attacking Trump than many lawmakers on the left?

[Doodley]

Example of headlines today: Liz Cheney says that Trump is unfit for office and 'clearly can never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again.'

She has the guts, the focus, the ferocity to speak out against that vile creature who is still plotting to destroy American democracy. Quite right that any lawmaker should do that, and shameful that Trump has anyone on the right who still supports him, but why is Liz Cheney more outspoken than many lawmakers on our own side? Shouldn't they all be yelling this from the rooftops every day?

[mzmolly]

1. I strongly disagree.

I think many on the left, are saying the same thing and have been since before the asshat was elected. Cheney gets more attention, due to who she is and the fact that she's a Republican.

[ibegurpard]

3. Yep

Why doesn't the left get out a concise clear message? Because even if we have one we don't have the enormous right-wing or corporate sponsored messaging infrastructure that's been put in place over the past few decades.
Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff have been saying the same shit for years now. As have others.

[BeyondGeography]

15. That's not leadership though

President Biden should be rubbing Trump’s nose in his defeat and criminality every damn day. Anyone who doesn’t think that’s what Presidents should do is failing to understand the moment we’re in.

Our communications void has played a major role in helping the Big Lie go viral. Republicans have fallen in line and they are building an infrastructure to steal elections in a more orderly fashion next time. Their voters are cheering because THEY are the ones who think democracy is under attack, not ours. Think about that.

We’re living through an epic failure of political imagination by Democratic Party leadership.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

25. The President should be trying to fix the shit

Not gloating over his victory. But yeah, blame the Dems.

[Doodley]

28. Well said. Trump can destroy an opponent with simple phrases like "worse

than Watergate" or "worst secretary of state ever" or "a complete disaster." People get these simple soundbites if they are repeated time and time again. This is what we should be doing to destroy Trump before it is too late.

[HUAJIAO]

60. agreed 100000%

Dems, as much as I like and respect them and am glad they are who they are.. don't do communication well.

[CaptainTruth]

42. Sounds like we Dems need an infrastructure plan.

A messaging infrastructure plan.

Plenty of conduits exist, we just don't use them effectively.

[Bev54]

66. They are using Cheney to get through to the non trump republicans

The dems are using her for messaging for those who think this is a partisan committee, she is showing the republicans and independents that it is not, it is a serious investigations. She is the dem messaging. The dems are also out there saying the same thing, if dems are not listening then you know where the problems lies.

[gab13by13]

16. Did you watch her during the criminal referral of Meadows?

She went directly after Donald Trump. She spelled out the exact law to charge Trump with, "impeding the official proceeding of Congress." She did this 2 days in a row.

Donald Trump has made it a priority to get Liz Cheney removed from office, spending millions of dollars, getting people to go to Wyoming to campaign against her.

Trump isn't doing that for anyone else.

Donald Trump fears Liz Cheney.

Liz Cheney gets more attention because she is going directly after the big GQP dogs.

[mzmolly]

17. You must not have heard

Nancy Pelosi over the past four years.

[gab13by13]

22. Touche' I give you that one,

Speaker Pelosi is #1, the best Speaker ever, I do put her over Liz and I have a fault using absolutes to make a point. Of course there are other Democrats who fight just as hard as Liz but I'm glad she's on that select committee.

[mzmolly]

34. I'm glad for

Cheney speaking out, too.

[Budi]

54. Thank you. Speaker Pelosi. The one taking constant degrading fire from the right & left.

Appears sorta coordinated in messaging after while.
Why is that?
She is a phenomenal leader.
Its a rare day when they whisper a smidge of gratitude, praise or a thanks as they parade across the TV news shows.

Not a peep.
🙄

[gab13by13]

62. I believe we have come to the conclusion,

when I say we I mean moderate and progressive Democrats, that we have been so lucky to have the best Speaker of the House ever.

When progressives debated with her she brought them in line, when moderates debated with her, she brought them in line.

I will say one other thing about Speaker Pelosi, a lot of credit has been given to Mike Pence for finishing the vote count on 1/6, but I give Speaker Pelosi credit for insisting on finishing the vote count that night. She is one sharp person, she knew what would have happened had that count been postponed.

I also give her credit for setting up the select committee, for the members she chose. It was brilliant for her to select 2 Republicans and I love when Democrats say, the bipartisan select committee has.....

She will be missed as Speaker.

[Budi]

68. Thanks

This, yes.
Jan 6 late night while she had her House still in the building, called the vote to secure Biden as President.
Cool head in a fearful, chaotic moment in US history.
And never did she seek her own accolades by parading thru the MSM daily line up.
She gets her chops from knowing the gravity of her decision that night.



"I will say one other thing about Speaker Pelosi, a lot of credit has been given to Mike Pence for finishing the vote count on 1/6, but I give Speaker Pelosi credit for insisting on finishing the vote count that night. She is one sharp person, she knew what would have happened had that count been postponed.

I also give her credit for setting up the select committee, for the members she chose. It was brilliant for her to select 2 Republicans and I love when Democrats say, the bipartisan select committee has.....

She will be missed as Speaker."

[Martin Eden]

35. Yep

Dog bites Man is not news. Man (Republican) bites Dog (Trump) gets the coverage.

[LeftInTX]

39. What a saying!

[samsingh]

46. I don't hear leaders on the left talking about how traitorous trump is and would be to the country

if elected again.

the fact that we are neck and neck after the Jan 6 2021 insurrection reveals several things including: 1. how traitorous a good proportion of the American public has become; 2. we are not going on the offensive with facts enough.

[mitch96]

59. "who she is and the fact that she's a Republican. " I also think she does not suck up to anyone

to get re elected. I don't care for her or her father but in this case she is doing the right thing.. no pun intended...
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[mcar]

2. I hear other members of the committee speaking out all the time

Perhaps the MSM focuses on Cheney because she is a Republican?

I also think the committee is putting her forward for that reason - to prove this is a fair, bipartisan committee.

[Walleye]

13. Also she is seemingly a brilliant lawyer

[mzmolly]

20. Exactly!

[panader0]

4. I'll bet her dad hates trump too.

So many of the repubs who said trump was unfit for POTUS before he was elected reversed
course after the election and now kiss his ample ass. But I'll bet Dick Cheney still hates him.

[TheBlackAdder]

5. Her days are numbered in the GOP so she has nothing to lose, but she can make a mark in US history.

[TNNurse]

45. She is acting like a patriot should.

[gab13by13]

6. Excellent post, Cheney gets it,

there are a handful of Democrats who are the biggest threat to our democracy because they just don't understand how serious this threat of losing our democracy really is.

Chuck Schumer has a lot on his plate this January, he needs to pass 3 election/voter protection laws.

Did you watch Liz at the public hearings where they voted to send a criminal referral of Mark Meadows to Garland? She laid out the exact law to charge Trump with, obstructing the official proceeding of Congress, a serious felony. She repeated that charge 2 days in a row and I believe she was speaking directly to Merrick Garland.

Trump fears Liz Cheney, he is doing everything he can to get her removed from office.

I agree, Liz Cheney has been the most outspoken anti-Trump person in Congress. She has nothing to lose, she is unchained.

[Doodley]

30. Thank you for seeing the situation with such clarity.

[FakeNoose]

55. She DOES get it, and the media love her outspokenness

They're giving her so much TV coverage and bandwidth too. She has the balls to stand up when all those scared little Repuke puppies are running and hiding. I really give Liz Cheney credit and I think Nancy Pelosi has a lot of respect for her too.

Thank you Liz Cheney, and thank you Speaker Pelosi! Let's see this through to the end.

[Scrivener7]

7. She's smart, she knows the current republiQan insanity will eventually implode into a different

kind of republican insanity, and she is positioning herself to be the leader of that new order.

I don't like her politics and I don't admire her, but she, like her father, has an unerring clarity of vision. It will take her far.

Right now she is our strange bedfellow, and we should take every advantage of that. We should be glad that a republican with the name of Cheney is speaking out against TFG. It benefits us as a nation.

Someday soon, she will return to being our enemy. That's politics.

[gab13by13]

19. The new GQP is spending a lot of money

to remove Liz from politics. If the GQP succeeds in removing a Cheney from office in Wyoming it will be an uphill battle for her to return to politics.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. Liz Cheney has the cajones...

That current Republican lawmakers lack.

Those NOT speaking up, are in dreaded FEAR of TFG. They know how he reacts to those he considers DISLOYAL to him.

TFG is a Narcissistic asshole. EVERYTHING has to be about him.

[Scrivener7]

9. There will come a time, though, when all of them are fighting to tell the world how

they never really supported TFG.

[mcar]

31. She's a woman, she does not need "cajones"

to be strong.

[tenderfoot]

52. Doesn't getting kicked or punched in the cajones cause excruciating pain?

I wonder if she they help her think too.

[mcar]

56. Some apparently think one has to have them to be intelligent

[tenderfoot]

57. Some also think they're a sign for "TOUGHNESS"

I know of no "tough guy" that could handle getting smacked there.

[mcar]

58. That's right

Women push out entire babies using their reproductive system.

[Dan]

47. Biden should have TFG imprisoned and taken to GITMO.

Under the Patriot Act - while they investigate if he is in fact a Traitor. That goes for the GOP members that traveled to Russia, and those that appear to be Russian Agents.

Good guys only win in the movies.

[GoCubsGo]

10. She's not "more outspoken." She is just more unusual.

She just gets most of the attention because she is one of the very few Republicans speaking out. You only get attention when you go against the grain. Liz Cheney is going against the grain. Those "on the left" are not.

[Effete Snob]

14. Correct

The OP incorrectly assumes that news coverage is driven by how "outspoken" someone may be.

[kentuck]

11. Most of Congress felt that their lives were threatened on that day.

It is not so easy for them to forget.

They were traumatized by the event.

[Effete Snob]

12. What makes you believe she is "more outspoken"

She gets more press coverage because she is a Republican attacking Trump.

That is the same logic by which Joe Manchin got a lot of attention recently, while every single Republican opposed the BBB bill.

It's a calculation of "newsworthiness" which determines coverage.

Your incorrect assumption is that coverage is driven by how "outspoken" someone may be.

[gab13by13]

21. I gave my reasons

she attacked Trump directly, she laid out exactly what law that Trump should be charged with. Name me someone else who has done that, I'm sure there are a few but she did it at a public hearing.

IMO at that hearing Liz Cheney moved the narrative to charging Trump with a crime for his role in the coup.

[spanone]

18. Cause she's vice-chair of the Jan. 6 Committee

[The Jungle 1]

23. Because she is being given the air time.

Give any democrat the same air time and you will get the same result.
Dog bites man is not a story
Man bites dog is a story.
Repuke attacks trump is a story.
She is running for the White House. She is outspoken about Trump. However she is still a very conservative repuke. She is a threat!

[leftstreet]

44. +1 They're all helping launch her POTUS bid

This constant praise of Cheney will look really bizarre when she's the GOP frontrunner

[AZSkiffyGeek]

24. I think it's a conscious decision on the part of the committee

By having Cheney as the spokesperson, they are defusing the "Democratic Witch Hunt" narrative.

[peggysue2]

41. Ding, Ding, Ding!

Exactly right. Dems have been speaking out, loudly and consistently. Their voices are diluted by accusations of partisanship. Liz Cheney gets airtime because she is a strong Republican/conservative going against the flow.

It is always about the narrative.

In this case, Liz Cheney is perceived as a super-hero because she's willing to stick her neck out, put her own political career on the line unlike her Republican colleagues. I give her credit for doing the right thing. But that doesn't diminish the down-in-the trenches work our Democratic Party leaders and members have been doing and shouting out from the start.

They are all in the fight of their lives to save our fragile, damaged democratic Republic.

No one should forget that. Even though the press does at its own peril.

[lastlib]

65. THIS is the point!!

Dems on the committee don't want to say it b/c it makes the committee look partisan. Probably Dems outside the committee don't want to say it so as not to distract from the appearance of bipartisanship. Once more facts are before the public, I have little doubt we'll all be screaming it from the rooftops, and having the evidence to back it up. That will be deadly to the GQP, and I think we may be getting close to that, but it may have to wait for tfg's papers from the Archives for the proof. (I just hope it comes before November.)

[GoCubsGo]

67. That's a huge part of it. However...

Let's also not discount the fact that, when looking at who the MSM allows to have a voice, it's almost always Republicans. On the Sunday talk shows alone, Republicans always outnumber Dems 3- or 4-to-1. If a Dem speaks, and there's no media there to record it, do they make a sound? It's pretty much true for everything, not just the Jan. 6 proceedings.

[helpisontheway]

26. Thank you! She was more outspoken that the "chairman" of the committee..nt

[doc03]

27. She says what she thinks instead of beating around the bush. Look at the

Lincoln Project ads they are far more effective than anything coming from Democrats.
I get tired of hearing "Our Republican Colleagues" or "Our Republican Friends" bullshit.
They supported a damn coup and still do, they are not our friends on the other side.

[Mike Nelson]

29. Hmm...

... I think there are many who speak out against Crooked Donald's crimes. But you're correct about her being the Committee member with bite in her remarks. I think it's wise... they have more trouble with Liz than the Dems on the panel. She may be the designated hitter. Now, back to the Biden Admin... I don't think it's appropriate for the President to be verbally involved, but maybe VP Harris can start stressing the topic? It's typical for the VP to pick up on this stuff...

[Budi]

51. No. VP is not a seperate entity of the President.

VP Harris isn't the sounding board for RW disgust, as the President isn't.

[Mike Nelson]

69. Well...

... I agree the VP should not have a separate opinion… and certainly is not the voice of right-wing disgust! But it is true that VPs have sometimes taken the "stronger language" route. Kamala Harris has the strength of Liz Cheney, for sure. She's a prosecutor & knows exactly what Liz is doing. I think we may see her start to echo some of the language, especially as November gets closer.

[Budi]

70. Agree. Watching her question Kavanaugh was purely Sen Kamala Harris's strength

I'd love to watch her debate the Repub that ends up in the Pres election when Biden's terms are done.

She has stated her ire for Trump's destructive policies & his ik, however, her words are muted from MSMedia as well as a mention of her name.

When Media propaganda ops "tells us what to think", we're being sheepled.

'We will tell you what to think'.
~joseph goebbels on media ops.

[elias7]

32. If it's true, it's because Dems criticizing TFG are just accused of being haters

What has been needed all along is Republicans criticizing Trump, but they have been too chicken shit to go against him, even after leaving office. Conservative new sources rarely editorialize against him either.

What is going to save this country are Republicans standing up for what is right, not what will keep them in power.

Dems speak to his criminality and incivility all the time, but it either speaks to the choir or falls on deaf ears.

[Chakaconcarne]

33. I believe it's just the GOP having it all ways as they always tend to do....

So they don't alienate all from the GOP.

[ismnotwasm]

36. Because she is getting press

[azureblue]

40. and getting press works

NT

[empedocles]

37. Liz is more effective in attcking traitortrump - than anyone else!

[azureblue]

38. a very good question

She says it like it is. She states her principles and attacks those who want to overthrow the government without mincing words. While we have people who say pretty much teh same thing, they tend to soft pedal.. Time to speak up and loudly. And fer gawd's sake, quit being reactionary - attack them and expose them.

[Wounded Bear]

43. Positioning herself to preside over the remants of the repub party...

once the trump fiasco subsides.

Let's hope it happens in our lifetimes.

[Tommymac]

50. I appreciate her efforts to de-throne TFG, but holy hell re policy she is her father reincarnated.

For now we are allies - kinda like Stalin was to FDR in WW2...

but after the battles are over she will be no friend of the Democratic Party.

That said, being Political Policy opponents on issues will be a refreshing change over the last 6 years.

I miss Bob Dole and John McCain. Disagreed vehemently with much of what they stood for, but at least they had some honor.

The present day rethug Senators from Utah, Alaska and Maine could be up there with them but they are too full of cowardice.

[Wounded Bear]

72. Pretty much agree with that...

I could probably deal with her as a "sane" conservative opponent.

Hopefully, trump goes down and takes the whole dysfuntional repub party with him. Ms cheney can run the remnants.

[Botany]

48. Liz is doing this because:

1) Because it is the right thing to do.

2) She wants to be on the right side of history and become the leader of a new republican party.

Said Liz Cheney: “That fucking guy Jim Jordan. That son of a bitch.… While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you.’ I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You fucking did this.'”

[Budi]

49. MSMedia doesn't allow those who warn about Trump on their TV shows.

The only lefties they allow are those degrading the Democratic Party, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, etc on their daily parade of self promoters.

You get a regular spot on prime time if you can flip the accolades of our Dem leaders as your own, & must never ever promote the works of our President, VP etc, that gets you on the TV & is the one rule that is strictly adhered to.

Its a rare day when they mention the horrors of Trump & his ilk.

Thanks Liz Cheney. She's said more against the dangers of Trump than the regular parade on MSM.
CNN, MSNBS etc are the reason we are in this hellhole.

[bucolic_frolic]

53. Democrats by nature don't want to politicize everything, they rely on the consent of the governed

[yaesu]

61. Well, corporate media tends to ignore anything the left says about the flushed turd. nt

[dchill]

63. She's not. It's OPTICS.

[Silent3]

71. Exactly. It's a man bites dog story, as opposed to a dog bites man story.

Everyone expects Democrats to be highly critical of Trump and the insurrection, so the media mostly ignores that.

[Jon King]

64. Another big question is what Merrick Garland's legacy will be in history.

Going to be very interesting how this plays out with DOJ. Is there lots going on behind the scenes or has Garland decided DOJ should play no role in 1-6.