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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOpinion: Donald Trump's influence is fading
Rachel discussed this earlier this week. TFG is losing his control over the GOP and his nut case supporters
Link to tweet
It's clear the former President wants to shore up his standing within the party -- but taking in his efforts to stay relevant in the last year, it's safe to say his power is limited. Sure, Trump has played an outsized role in shaping the GOP; his lies about election fraud have taken hold within the party, Republican-controlled states have passed a number of voter restriction laws and he's ushered in an era of increasing extremism. But now that he no longer holds the highest office in the land, Trump himself is far from the kingmaker he wants to be.
Looking back on the year, Trump's attempts to wield his power over the GOP have been spotty. State-level attempts to overturn the 2020 election results have all failed, and when the former president pushed the governor of Texas to advance election audit legislation, it went nowhere. Meanwhile, his hand-picked candidate for the US Senate seat in Pennsylvania suspended his campaign amid allegations of domestic abuse. And in Alabama, his support for Senate candidate Mo Brooks appears to be having little effect (you may recall that Trump's weakness showed in Alabama in 2017 when his picks for US Senate lost both in the primary and general election.)
Other Trump setbacks include the failure of his endorsed candidate in a special Congressional election in Texas. And those who are waging primary battles against incumbent Republicans who voted to impeach Trump after the January 6 insurrection are struggling with fundraising. In the most glaring example, January 6 committee member Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming -- a Republican who may top the list of Trump's enemies -- has 10 times more campaign cash than her Trump-endorsed challenger, according to the most recent Federal Election Commission filings from October.
In Washington, DC, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the most powerful Republican in office, seems to be distancing himself from Trump. He recently expressed interest in the January 6 committee's effort to "reveal all of the participants who were involved," and added, "It was a horrendous event, and I think what they are seeking to find out is something the public needs to know."
Hekate
(91,003 posts)
both their assets and their asses from the fall.
And I profoundly hope this country can recover from the anti-democratic movement he leaves behind.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)panting and snapping obediently.
Wondering if Nunes with tRump Media could be caught up in this new legal mess involving tRump with an illicit Chinese shell company raking in billions in spite of no product.
Joinfortmill
(14,500 posts)Justice matters.
(6,955 posts)leftstreet
(36,118 posts)...as he will the next GOPer
Blue Owl
(50,555 posts)Faster, Donny... FASTER!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)be more useful to Dems.
calimary
(81,566 posts)diminish him.
Thats another reason to work like hell to make sure Dems hold onto their seats in both houses of Congress.
Its a MUST. And its URGENT.
Accept NO substitutes!
LoisB
(7,250 posts)of it's own, with or without Trump.
malaise
(269,263 posts)Take that to the bank - the end is nigh!
onethatcares
(16,205 posts)we told him "You're FIRED" over a year ago and, NO, he doesn't get to keep the stapler.
oldsoftie
(12,658 posts)Yeah, they're both republicans, but the value of slapping trump in the face with his best known detractor winning is worth it
NickB79
(19,288 posts)Because the best thing we can hope for is a bitter GOP civil war in 2023 that splits the party in the 2024 election. Let him, Cruz, and DeSantis get bloody fighting each other and alienate each other's bases.
keithbvadu2
(37,024 posts)Donald's #1 concern...
Am I still getting donations?
CaptainTruth
(6,616 posts)He only pretended to have confidence & strength. He's always been pretending. It was just a facade, an act, with no substance behind it.
That's not new & it's certainly not news.
bucolic_frolic
(43,465 posts)The world inches on with reality. To TFG it's still November, 2020.
pnwmom
(109,023 posts)First I followed MSN's link to the Trump page and it no longer contains the statement.
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-gnhfuzkqvk1299
But it lives forever on the web. Here it is, in all its incoherent stupidity. (I'm sure Mitch McConnell loves the slams against RINO's.)
Why isnt the Unselect Committee of highly partisan political hacks investigating the CAUSE of the January 6th protest, which was the rigged Presidential Election of 2020? Does anybody notice that they want to stay as far away from that topic as possible, the numbers dont work for them, or even come close. The only thing they can do is not talk about it. Look at what is going on now in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and, to a lesser extent, Michigan where the numbers are horrendously corrupt in Detroit, but the weak Republican RINOs in the Michigan House and Senate dont want to touch the subject. In many ways a RINO is worse than a Radical Left Democrat, because you dont know where they are coming from and you have no idea how bad they really are for our Country. The good news is there are fewer and fewer RINOs left as we elect strong Patriots who love America. I will be having a news conference on January 6th at Mar-a-Lago to discuss all of these points, and more. Until then, remember, the insurrection took place on November 3rd, it was the completely unarmed protest of the rigged election that took place on January 6th.
https://insiderpaper.com/trump-to-conduct-press-conference-on-jan-6-at-mar-a-lago/
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,821 posts)UTUSN
(70,781 posts)Skittles
(153,275 posts)and hopefully it has lost a few who have enough critical thinking skills to realized Trump puts himself first, over the interests of America
Poiuyt
(18,133 posts)circle their wagons around him? If his star is falling now, will his followers be re-energized by any official action against him?
Grins
(7,257 posts)Howd that work out?
Trump is a world of shit, but he knows the base.
Stuart G
(38,455 posts)I believe it is down to 25% of the Puke Party, and getting less and less. Here is why...Trump is A KILLER & A LIAR.
enough said.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,821 posts)Link to tweet
"Trump, stop. Just stop. Have your position (backed by Fauci) and allow us to have ours (which is backed by science). This losing is getting boomer level annoying," Alexander wrote on Telegram, Insider reported.
Jones, who has been a steadfast Trump supporter for years, insinuated that Trump had abruptly switched allegiances as a result of his vaccination......
The disavowal of Trump's most devoted followers underscores the extent to which medical misinformation and anti-vaccine sentiment have taken over the conservative base, making even lukewarm endorsements of vaccines off-limits. These are the same people who have stood by Trump through a number of scandals, including bragging about sexual assault on camera, two impeachment trials, and an attempted insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
Lasher
(27,664 posts)It was only a matter of time. These idiots are too opinionated to stick with this one person for long.
David__77
(23,604 posts)Hes the leader of the Republicans and no one comes close to changing that.
Patton French
(795 posts)PATRICK
(12,229 posts)That's one. The party powers want him out(without offending his volatile base)
That's two. He learned while in the primaries he had to keep feeding the beast(base again). Posturing from the outside is too difficult.
So if he had gone silent he would have faded, but maybe lived on in legend in his people. Probably the constant unimpeded real world media and party leaders would have hastened the decomposition by any memes necessary.
If he keeps posing he is in constant legal peril and needs some version of sanity supporters to stay in the game.
If the base turns on him in ANY significant numbers the shallow but vocal support fades over all. he only survives on an illusion that he had the numbers and on the reality that the GOP NEEDS an emotional base to cloud reality like some evil Dr. Strange.
The party leaders can help him pretend as they have to- politely- wait out the decomposition.
Factually, he is a loser with nothing to offer anyone but misery. His brief stint as tinpot dictator was laughable even by beerhall Putsch standards.
He should never have been allowed to be president and the media did a typically terrible job. That ends up diverting a simple fact into impotent opposition and support of a demented clown show that still runs around the main ring of the sad GOP circus.
Electing any other Republican will only hasten the decline and extinction of life on this planet. An unpleasant reality. The Democratic Party might not be up to saving us, but really. Can people really get together on their own survival?
Do we all have to die in shame as a failed (semi)intelligent species?
Trump blathers on. So does all noise pollution. I listen through that tinnitus.