Mark Meadowss is dumber than a doorknob

[vlyons]

He left a trail wider than a 4 lane highway about his sedition and conspiracy to insurrection. Hopefully the evidence of his crimes will ensnare all the congress critters, who colluded and participated with him.

Evil and troubles galore befall on anyone, who delusionally thinks that latching on to Trump's coattails will be advantageous. Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind.

[mucifer]

1. unless the justice department lets him get away with it.

[NurseJackie]

3. Oh brother.

Are you suggesting that Biden's justice department is corrupt?
Or are you saying they're lazy and don't care?
Or are you trying to hint that they're incompetent?

All three are ridiculous, but I'm just wondering which one you're hinting at?

[jaxexpat]

8. Perhaps the suggestion is that "time will tell".

Also suggesting that time is precisely what there is no surplus of. If the midterms take place amid incomplete court actions or ambiguous results, the electorate, already precariously balanced, could embrace disaster. Every passing moment in which the media can plausibly infer indecision regarding fault or responsibility is a win for the Trumpian terror squads whose only/best hope is a deferral of justice. Every judicial decision to delay hearing or sentencing or incarceration or any official statement that infers multiple/optional interpretations of evidence is a lifeline to those guilty and treasonous rioters, home invaders. Their tenuous and impermanent hopes depend, ultimately, on the success of the right-wing conspiracy to make the motives and facts of their deeds appear uncertain as well as the majorities in congress after the 2022 elections. Whoever or whatever allows the ball to remain in play past election day 2022 is the culprit of doom unless one believes there is no reason to be concerned about the nation's future.

Delay is dangerous. History will, at its leisure, examine the current machinations and make its determination of consequential miscalculations on either side. Current justice has no luxury of leisure.

[NurseJackie]

14. So, we should be the ones to shred the constitution rather than letting the GOP do it?

There are no easy answers or quick solutions that everyone wants. In their frustration, I believe that these passive-aggressive denigration (and often outright smears, insults and blatant lies of Biden and his administration... and Democrats in general) serve no good purpose. That's all I'm trying to say.

[jaxexpat]

16. Oh, I'm very much against "letting the GOP do it". That's the point, you see.

If the smears and lies are left unchallenged, we're a weak force indeed. That's the way it goes when we rise and fall, like the tide, from passive aggression to constitution shredding. If there are no absolutes, then let's agree to enjoy, at least, a grudging respect for the vague while smiling and shaking our wizened heads at the passions of polarity. G'day, NJ.

[NurseJackie]

19. Spare me.

That's the point, you see.

[msfiddlestix]

21. oh sister

[mcar]

20. ...

[Irish_Dem]

25. Yep. Maybe he is smart enough to know there will be no consequences.

[UCmeNdc]

2. Mark Meadows seemed to be ready to talk with the investigators until Trump told him to shut up.

IMHO. Trump got to him.

[peppertree]

9. +1

Meadows is convinced there will be a successful fascist takeover in '24, and wants to stay in Cheeto's good graces.

Moreover, he sees Biden - and democracy - as powerless, and unlikely to cause him too many problems if he doesn't cooperate.

A lot of these Trumpkin figures no doubt feel that way.

[vlyons]

17. As I wrote above, he's dumber than a doorknob

nt

[peppertree]

31. +1

Why is why he's so quick to subscribe to these fascist fantasies of theirs.

That said, I'm glad it's being taken very seriously by most Democrats.

Because even asinine ideas, if well funded (as this is), can become reality if not properly countered.

[msfiddlestix]

22. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[peppertree]

29. Thanks!

So many fascist fantasizers in today's GOP.

[karynnj]

28. He may also be confident that the number of important GOP Congressmen and Senators involved

gave him confidence last January that they could actually accomplish this coup and thus did little to hide things they did - like having the national guard stand down. When it failed, the widespread nature of those complicit may STILL lead him to think they can just delay until 2022 (to stop anything from Congress) and 2024 to restore Trump.

The texts are fascinating. One way to look at some of them read by Cheney is that in the cold light of January 6, many of those who created the problem - Fox news right wing hosts and even his son - reacted in horror to what was happening. There have long been reports of Congressmen, terrified at the Capitol, making similar calls.

This is our first peak into what was happening during the insurrection at the White House. Mark Meadows was likely just one of the people inside hearing from the GOP outside. Cheney read his response to Trump jr that he agreed and implied he was pushing Trump on that. We had glimpses of Trump on the day - giving an inflammatory speech, sending out that strange tweet that told the rioters he loved them as he weakly called for order, and (from memory which could be wrong) there was a shaky phone video of Trump and others at the White House watching the coverage, where Trump looked giddy about the attack.

Given the huge hallowing out of the Defense Department leadership - replaced by Trumpies , the coordinated suit by red state AGs attacking the results in other states, the challenges from Hawley, Cruz and others - again to states that were not theirs and where many pro-Trump cases lost, sometimes rejected by Trump appointed judges, and the large number of Congressmen who voted against accepting the electoral votes after the insurrection, a time when their should have been a sober reassessment of what they were likely already a part of. it would seem that Trump's known reactions indicated that he saw the entire coup as destined to succeed.

I wonder who, if anyone, in that "room where it (the Trump connection to the insurrection) was happening" who will give us a clear picture of what was happening at that moment. We KNOW Meadows was getting all this input showing many important Trump allies were getting cold feet - maybe finally seeing that what they were doing was a coup against the US. The question is did Meadows pass this to Trump or was he just ignored, rejected or did he himself back off given Trump's obvious glee in the insurrection. Were other people trying to talk Trump to stop the riots?

Then, think of later that day. Even after the riot, many Republicans did not back away from the lie, but voted to not accept electors. I did not watch Fox, but did not recall the same people texting Meadows speaking against the riots on their shows. I remember that some in Congress, McConnell and McCarthy initially did condemn the attack ... but it was not long until they were with Trump claiming the problem was the lack of election integrity. I wonder if that final shift (to back the lie) was not so much they loved Trump, but they saw how many Republicans could and should be blamed for what happened. Their current lies may be nothing but self preservation. Not to mention, very few profiles in courage - even when the country was under the most serious attack since the Civil War.

[peppertree]

30. Absolutely - and what's worse, they'll be sure to try all that again.

One for the bookmarks. Thanks!

[Captain Zero]

24. Can Trump now be charged with Obstruction ??

Obstruction of Justice.

Meadows was complying.
He turned over documents.
He was going to testify in person.
Trump has coerced him to cease cooperation.

That's Obstruction of Justice, right there.
(IMHO)

[underpants]

4. Who the hell signs on to this?

He was the 4th or 5th Chief of Staff...in 4 years. The place was completely out of control. I’ve never heard even an implication that he joined in to control Trump. Several COS’s did just that until they realized it was useless.

What could he have possibly expected to happen?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. He signed on to coddle Pendejo45 to advance his own career; was a Congresscritter before. nt

[OneGrassRoot]

12. "Pendejo45"...

Best one yet!

[Ford_Prefect]

15. He was leader of the NC state legislature before that and had an inside view of the entire

make government into a one party autocracy plan, as well as being placed close to those who hide outside the political lime-light who have been paying for and orchestrating this over the last 35 years.

He knows them personally, those RW oligarchs who see the future of America as a Christian Nationalist Empire and who have spent obscene amounts of money to make it happen. They are same people who now hold the GOP literally in the palms of their hands. TLG is their figurehead and chosen dictator.

Mark was exactly where he planned to be and still is; riding in the wake of TLG and ready to do whatever is needed to take power.

...And yes he is at times quite the fool about some things. He also has detailed knowledge of the rest of the plan to put TLG and the GOP back in power which may explain why he thinks it was safe to trade info with the committee.

[msfiddlestix]

23. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

Nailed it.

make government into a one party autocracy plan, as well as being placed close to those who hide outside the political lime-light who have been paying for and orchestrating this over the last 35 years.

He knows them personally, those RW oligarchs who see the future of America as a Christian Nationalist Empire and who have spent obscene amounts of money to make it happen. They are same people who now hold the GOP literally in the palms of their hands. TLG is their figurehead and chosen dictator.

Mark was exactly where he planned to be and still is; riding in the wake of TLG and ready to do whatever is needed to take power.

[johnthewoodworker]

5. A Republican/Nazi never fears the legal system. They run it.

[joshdawg]

7. Well, meadows is a republican, sooooooo

just sayin'

[Crazyleftie]

10. can congress

refer Meadows (or any other seditionists) to the Justice department for criminal prosecution (other than for contempt of Congress)????????????

[Scrivener7]

11. And if they do, will it do any good?

[Mary in S. Carolina]

13. He has stained the great people of North Carolina

[mnhtnbb]

26. Indeed. There is an Editorial in the Raleigh News Observer today to that effect.

For North Carolina, Meadows is more than a figure in a Washington drama. He is the embodiment of how the state’s turn to extreme gerrymandering has opened the way for reactionary and incompetent candidates to represent the state in Congress. Before Meadows, the 11th District was represented by a conservative Democrat, Heath Shuler, who retired after the district was redrawn to heavily favor Republicans. Now the district is represented by Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn, who has found a way to be more extreme and embarrassing than Meadows.

It has long been clear that Meadows is a Trump sycophant. Now the question is whether his eagerness to please included breaking the law. The Jan. 6 committee needs to take a hard line with the former chief of staff who never drew a line for Trump.

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article256554171.html

[Mary in S. Carolina]

27. I love the Raleigh News Observer!!

[BlackSkimmer]

32. Oh, we sure can grow'em here.

Jesse Helms, John Edwards, Madison whathisname, Cal Cunningham…I could go on, but it’s too depressing.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. This describes right-wingers: Drunk on stupid.