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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:16 PM Dec 2021

Cafe Sign Looking for Staff Who 'Doesn't Cry, Is Never Late, Has No Excuses' Blasted Online

A café sign advertising vacant positions has been slammed online, after the chain claimed they were looking for staff members who don't cry, are never late and have "no excuses." A snap of the note, which has the branding for the popular juice chain Kreation, was shared to Twitter by Jenson Titus on Monday, where it amassed more than 34,000 likes.

It causes quite a stir online, as SpencerMagne wrote: "Am I crazy or did they just write a job requirement for a slave?"

Not everyone was against the note, as Evil Morty wrote: "Where does this note blame anyone? You want a person that is always late with lame excuses and cries every week? A person who doesn't do the job and let the others with more work to do? Obviously you never managed a team in your life."

The job pays $15 an hour plus tips, with prospective employees required to "be able to stand during entire shift, often up to 8 hours with frequent bending, squatting, and lifting plates, boxes, and objects up to 30 pounds up to 5 times per shift. "Champions Kreation Service with energetic, friendly, and prompt greetings immediately upon making eye contact with guests." As well as being able to work evenings and weekends, the ideal candidate is "energetic, fun, and friendly."

https://www.newsweek.com/cafe-sign-staff-doesnt-cry-never-late-no-excuses-kreation-juice-1657227

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Cafe Sign Looking for Staff Who 'Doesn't Cry, Is Never Late, Has No Excuses' Blasted Online (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 OP
How Many Pieces of Flair Must They Wear on the Job? MineralMan Dec 2021 #1
I've got your flair right here! Caliman73 Dec 2021 #14
Get a fucking robot and put a smiley sticker on it dalton99a Dec 2021 #2
There are robot rentals/ purchases but not at $15/hr. 🙄 what holistic assholes luckone Dec 2021 #26
The one that bothered me the most? leftieNanner Dec 2021 #3
"We will give you your week's schedule the night before it starts." obamanut2012 Dec 2021 #5
Yes, I've known retailers like that PatSeg Dec 2021 #8
I worked retail in San Francisco in the early 80s leftieNanner Dec 2021 #15
Such lunatic managers are far too common PatSeg Dec 2021 #20
CA passed a law not allowing that anymore obamanut2012 Dec 2021 #28
LeftieNanner and Obamanut spotted it absolutely dead on. Don't expect to have a personal life ... Hekate Dec 2021 #32
Yeah, "Open Schedule" means all the hours, or none of the hours, or a few of the hours, or Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #34
I'm sure there is a stampede of prospects for that job... wcmagumba Dec 2021 #4
"Has No Bullsh*t"? PatSeg Dec 2021 #6
Touch! . . . Journeyman Dec 2021 #11
Thanks PatSeg Dec 2021 #17
They often are. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #16
Oh yes, very well said PatSeg Dec 2021 #23
Very, Very Often ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #29
Hey, the Bullshit starts at the top....obviously. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #19
Yeah and anyone crass enough PatSeg Dec 2021 #24
+1 chowder66 Dec 2021 #25
Who would walk in and apply for a job with that description? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #7
I would not. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #18
Lets take a look at what they pay for this... Ohio Joe Dec 2021 #9
managers get a cut of the tips? gtfooh. mopinko Dec 2021 #27
Sure sounds like a toxic place. dalton99a Dec 2021 #10
I showed up every day on time. Tetrachloride Dec 2021 #12
REMEMBER THIS IDEA, ' When you think you have seen it all...THERE IS ALWAYS MORE" Stuart G Dec 2021 #13
Imagine being married to these people. LakeArenal Dec 2021 #21
Shorter version: Looking for someone absolutely desperate enough to take this shit job! Jim__ Dec 2021 #22
Yeah, They are looking to hire a single psychopath to staff their Restuarant. Jacson6 Dec 2021 #30
is there a 90 day probationary period? onethatcares Dec 2021 #31
Without a doubt Hekate Dec 2021 #35
Given that "organic" itself is mostly bullshit... Silent3 Dec 2021 #33

leftieNanner

(15,267 posts)
3. The one that bothered me the most?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:25 PM
Dec 2021

"Has an Open Schedule"

That means, don't expect to have regular work days or hours. Need to plan for child care? Sucks for you.

obamanut2012

(26,327 posts)
5. "We will give you your week's schedule the night before it starts."
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:30 PM
Dec 2021

"And, keep those days off open! We are actually on-call to fill in!!!!"

"Taking college classes online? LOL who cares? Fuck your class schedule!"

PatSeg

(48,388 posts)
8. Yes, I've known retailers like that
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:33 PM
Dec 2021

The schedules are so erratic and inconsistent, that employees can't take a second job or have any kind of a personal life.

leftieNanner

(15,267 posts)
15. I worked retail in San Francisco in the early 80s
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:50 PM
Dec 2021

Had a great manager who gave us regular schedules and was happy to accommodate our real lives.

She was promoted and they brought in a power-hungry lunatic who seemed to delight in giving us the worst options. When the store decided to be open until 11 pm between Thanksgiving and New Years, most department managers assigned workers one or two nights per week of the late schedule. I got an entire week of it. Needless to say, he didn't last long.

PatSeg

(48,388 posts)
20. Such lunatic managers are far too common
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:58 PM
Dec 2021

I often wonder if companies choose management from the least qualified individuals available. Apparently there are very few decent training programs for managers in the business world. It still blows my mind.

Hekate

(91,616 posts)
32. LeftieNanner and Obamanut spotted it absolutely dead on. Don't expect to have a personal life ...
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:18 PM
Dec 2021

… in any respect. Sucks to be you.

Back when I was pretty desperate for a full time job to support me and the kids, there were some interviews I turned off (politely, because you never know, do you?) when I realized that it wasn’t so much that I needed to prioritize work, but that work could spread out indefinitely and my children would be dead last. I said I didn’t think it would be a good fit.



Wingus Dingus

(8,061 posts)
34. Yeah, "Open Schedule" means all the hours, or none of the hours, or a few of the hours, or
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 07:35 PM
Dec 2021

really, whatever our whims are on any given day. You'll be here when we want you here and gone when we're slow. Just keep your schedule open and your mouth shut!

PatSeg

(48,388 posts)
6. "Has No Bullsh*t"?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:31 PM
Dec 2021

Oh, that is very enticing.

Perhaps if they stated the qualifications as positive, instead of negative, it would be more appealing. Instead of "Is never late", it should read, "punctual". "Smiles no matter what" rather implies the job is pure hell. "Friendly faces" would probably attract more prospects. And "Doesn't cry"??? What kind of a business are they running?

I have a feeling they are not going to find "That Special Person". It seems that their employee problems are more likely because of management failures.

Journeyman

(15,075 posts)
11. Touch! . . .
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:43 PM
Dec 2021
"It seems that their employee problems are more likely because of management failures."

Well phrased.

Caliman73

(11,764 posts)
16. They often are.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:52 PM
Dec 2021

Failure in staff is often failure in leadership.

I have often said that I would follow a good leader into Hell, but I wouldn't follow a bad leader into Heaven. The hallmark of good leadership is that they make you want to perform at your best. They do not demand it from you, but they make you want to do it because you are invested in the success of the mission.

ProfessorGAC

(66,093 posts)
29. Very, Very Often
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:04 PM
Dec 2021

I was on an interview team a few years back.
One candidate (engineering gig) was a pleasant, affable guy, 8-9 years of experience, (different market segment), and knew his stuff.
Along with 2 others on the team, I recommended against because I didn't think he'd handle the pace of that particular job.
The guy to whom he'd be reporting agreed, then hired him because he was a vet.
He didn't work out. Lasted under a year.
Upended his life, put that department a year behind, but really did nothing wrong. He was a bad fit.
The only person to blame was the manager.

PatSeg

(48,388 posts)
24. Yeah and anyone crass enough
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 03:05 PM
Dec 2021

to include that word on a retail window sign probably is not going to be a decent employer. Also they are not apt to get my business as a customer either.

Caliman73

(11,764 posts)
18. I would not.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:55 PM
Dec 2021

They are looking for a particular type of employee.

Someone who subscribes to "asshole culture". Someone who maybe seeks out mildly abusive relationships. Someone who is bright, but unsure of themselves, who would take that form of quasi abusive management style.

They likely have high turnover.

Ohio Joe

(21,804 posts)
9. Lets take a look at what they pay for this...
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:37 PM
Dec 2021

Barista / Smoothie Production - $15hr +Tips (in LA) - Fuck That, you want perfection+, you better offer pay to match

https://kreation.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=300&source=kreationjuice

Cook - $17hr +Tips +Bonus (unexplained) - So... Cooks get part of the Tips, take note Baristas. Still... $17hr for a cook in LA is shit, bottom of the barrel pay.

https://kreation.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=240&source=kreationjuice

Manager - $24 - $28hr +Tips +bonus (again unexplained) So... Managers also get part of the tips... Sheesh, the Baristas really get screwed at this place.

https://kreation.bamboohr.com/jobs/view.php?id=275&source=kreationjuice

Combined with the way they look for help... Fuck this place, I would not even be a customer. My niece makes more working as a cashier at the local gas station outside Boulder Colorado ($17.50 plus so so benies).

Tetrachloride

(8,012 posts)
12. I showed up every day on time.
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:44 PM
Dec 2021

i generally liked my jobs. i thought they were easier than other companies. I improved week by week. Usually.

Stuart G

(38,527 posts)
13. REMEMBER THIS IDEA, ' When you think you have seen it all...THERE IS ALWAYS MORE"
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 02:45 PM
Dec 2021

........ALWAYS....ALWAYS...ALWAYS....AND ALWAYS........again..time to hide..

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