Andrew Sullivan basically says Americans will disgrace themselves if they don't re-elect Obama

[BeyondGeography]

He's flawed; he's made mistakes; but who hasn't? If this man, in these times, with this record, against this opposition, does not deserve re-election, then I am simply at a loss for words. I have to believe the American people will see that in time.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/live-blogging-the-foreign-policy-debate.html

[gateley]

1. He's right.

[grantcart]

2. I've said it before this isn't an election its a national IQ test.

No one outside the US would understand a Romney win.

[freshwest]

13. +1

[JRLeft]

3. I never doubt ignorance of the American voter.

[1springhill]

10. Neither do I..............

unfortunately.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. Not after Bush won re-election

The American people disgraced themselves, but good, on that occasion.

[laundry_queen]

4. They already disgraced themselves when they re-elected (almost) Bush. nt

[renegade000]

5. after romney's embarassing performance tonight....

pretty much...

[Kennah]

6. If Mittens wins, then either the election is rigged, or ...

... Americans really do want to know what rock bottom looks like.

[PufPuf23]

7. I agree. Vote Obama/Biden. nt.

The crazy is appalling.

[defacto7]

8. Another reason we need

to fund quality education... and teach quality subject matter!

[Kablooie]

9. If you believe the press it's extremely close.

Only a razor thin chance that Obama will win.

I guess a 70-30 lead can be called razor thin.
It won't shave you very well though.

[PoliticAverse]

11. Wouldn't be the first time...

[Stevepol]

14. The American people are up against two great enemies of democracy:

(1) the most powerful and well-funded propaganda machines posing as media in the world. Money talks in the US as in no other place in the world.

(2) completely privatized vote-counting which means that it is possible to have almost any result that the owners and programmers of totally unverifiable black boxes want.

Gore I believe won the election in 2000 and John Kerry I believe won the election in 2004 but of course there's no way to know that since our elections are unverifiable. It's only my opinion (based on a lot of mostly circumstantial evidence) and opinions don't mean much unless they're extremely well-funded.

The American people are good-hearted in general and are generally right in their instincts and reactions but they are human after all and they are up against two great barriers to democratic expression.

[Mutiny In Heaven]

15. I think you're right.

I also think it's the case that the vast majority of children are naturally much, much, much more intelligent than approximately 40% of adults.

But how can that be? Why do people regress and end up markedly less intellectually capable at 45 than they were at 14?

As far as I'm concerned, there are so many factors that dumb people down past a certain age, today's Republican party is one (on so many levels, not least their fetish for chipping away at the education system), and the mainstream media another; that's a disgrace, let me tell you. It's not journalism, it's not information, it's cream puffery. To those spineless cock-faces they have to be "neutral" but evidently America just cannot produce good English teachers, because the belief in media circles is that being "neutral" means "dragging one party down to the other's level" instead of "non-partisan" or "open minded".

[2on2u]

16. Need a good photoshopper to do what is necessary here.....