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samplegirl

(11,488 posts)
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:19 AM Dec 2021

The trump Virus hitting us

Again and again!

The COVID-19 pandemic continues to challenge healthcare providers.

Cleveland Clinic is temporarily halting the scheduling of additional non-urgent inpatient surgeries requiring a hospital bed in most Ohio locations starting Dec. 6, 2021.

Read more: https://cle.clinic/31obiI8

Our local hospital has 48 Covid patients.
Then I get a text from my friend who’s husband works at Cleveland Clinic last night!

Trump is responsible and 2 years later and another holiday under the gun serves as a reminder of the
the damage trump left us with!
I hate him more each day if possible!

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The trump Virus hitting us (Original Post) samplegirl Dec 2021 OP
k and r North Shore Chicago Dec 2021 #1
I hate him mostest LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #10
I win. piddyprints Dec 2021 #15
OK, you got me! LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #22
Wise apple! lol North Shore Chicago Dec 2021 #67
Hah! North Shore Chicago Dec 2021 #66
NH now has the highest per capita cases in the nation and our brilliant Republican government Vinca Dec 2021 #2
WTF-- I thought you guys were doing great on vaccination? LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #11
Sorry, that's VT Mopar151 Dec 2021 #13
Ah, yes, I see. Sad. LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #23
Lucky for me I live on the VT/NH border and spend most of my time in Vermont. Vinca Dec 2021 #28
Looking out the window at Mt. Ascutney now. Mopar151 Dec 2021 #38
We can almost see Mt. Ascutney. The neighbor above us has a view of it. Vinca Dec 2021 #44
We ain't North Florabama! Mopar151 Dec 2021 #45
It always amazes me when idiots are proud of their idiocy. Poiuyt Dec 2021 #54
Not good enough! samplegirl Dec 2021 #58
I hear ya. I am in a blue state, near a blue city, wnylib Dec 2021 #42
;-{)🖖‍ Goonch Dec 2021 #3
Perfect! Kath2 Dec 2021 #36
We would not be going through this shit w/a President Hillary Botany Dec 2021 #4
100% -- I think about this all the time and am still furious about how Hillary got screwed LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #8
And on election day 2016 she was at something like a 90% chance of winning. Botany Dec 2021 #12
Yes WA-03 Democrat Dec 2021 #16
11/9/2016 was one of the most frightening days of my life LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #25
By the morning of 11/8/2016 Florida was a done deal for Hillary ... her lead in the early vote ... Botany Dec 2021 #27
Wow, never heard that stat about Florida... stunning LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #68
Before ERD voting machines the vote always matched Botany Dec 2021 #69
well, shit LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #70
All true pandr32 Dec 2021 #29
While polls had HRC winning, in the end most were within the margin of error oldsoftie Dec 2021 #30
But every single one of them broke for Trump .... it was like shooting a b.b. through the eye... Botany Dec 2021 #39
Nothing has ever been shown proving ilegal ballots or illegal voting oldsoftie Dec 2021 #51
Go look at the bunny Botany Dec 2021 #53
And it says they didnt try to disrupt the vote. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #59
Sure Putin spent many years and millions of dollars to hack into America's voter d-base file ... Botany Dec 2021 #63
But there is still no PROOF anything altered the vote. Pres Obama did warn Russia. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #65
Covid cases are rapidly increasing in OH. LisaL Dec 2021 #5
Michigan's right up there with you. llmart Dec 2021 #7
Indiana too... and we're in very poor shape in terms of vaccination LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #9
Yep. Delphinus Dec 2021 #19
Yes, I looked at the Indiana county map a few days ago and there were some shockingly LymphocyteLover Dec 2021 #24
My small NY city is averaging around 400 new cases weekly. wnylib Dec 2021 #43
Cold weather rolling into the east, letting down our guard... paleotn Dec 2021 #6
Covid might yet bite TFG in the ass. wnylib Dec 2021 #46
We can only hope. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #55
. wnylib Dec 2021 #57
Two viruses. hay rick Dec 2021 #14
UVM Vermont mgardener Dec 2021 #17
Great. One year after diagnosis with an aggressive cancer, Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #18
I'm so sorry ... Delphinus Dec 2021 #20
Kick JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #21
Trump and his right wing media empire... Eyeball_Kid Dec 2021 #26
KnR MiHale Dec 2021 #31
Does everyone know that 1/3 of Americans have had Covid? oldsoftie Dec 2021 #32
I've noticed that the news orgs don't like to ballpark the actual numbers Larissa Dec 2021 #50
Oh, my trump voting friends have been quick to point that out oldsoftie Dec 2021 #52
My Opinion marieo1 Dec 2021 #33
You'd think he could come up with a better disguise world wide wally Dec 2021 #35
We can hate trump all we want, but all the surveys show that 85+% of Repubs love him.. albacore Dec 2021 #34
I hate him, as well. Kath2 Dec 2021 #37
Donald Trump is a true "KILLER" Stuart G Dec 2021 #40
Crappy Presidents, Trump is the top or near the top.. Stuart G Dec 2021 #41
Not true. Placeholder had a very precise and evil plan. jmowreader Dec 2021 #47
We should really call it stage left Dec 2021 #48
Hubs has Covid ...mild case thus far...and I hate hate Trump. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #49
My Christmas day new's may be trump strock's out ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #56
Haha....I would shed a tear that is for sure. Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #61
he really is llashram Dec 2021 #60
ME & a lot my friends would love to see Iran snatch his ass !! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #62
The world would be a MUCH better place now, if the U.S. would have had President Hillary Clinton. C Moon Dec 2021 #64

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
2. NH now has the highest per capita cases in the nation and our brilliant Republican government
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:25 AM
Dec 2021

sent millions of dollars in Covid funds back to Washington a few weeks ago. Now we need assistance to keep hospitals operating and for more vaccination sites. One way or another the GOP - with or without Trump - is determined to kill us. I still don't understand why they don't see it's mostly their own, unvaccinated supporters catching it now.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
28. Lucky for me I live on the VT/NH border and spend most of my time in Vermont.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

Wish we'd stayed in Vermont. Before I was politically aware we got a great deal on a house in a really good location. I still love the location, but I wish it wasn't in NH. Most of the people in my area are like me, but there are always a few Trump nuts hiding out in rural areas. I recently found out a man who bought a beautiful and expensive home about half a mile from us donated to Trump. Aaaargh. I can understand him more than the average working person though. He got all the tax breaks under Dear Leader. Fortunately, I don't believe he's a gun humper.

Mopar151

(9,991 posts)
38. Looking out the window at Mt. Ascutney now.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:51 PM
Dec 2021

Made plenty of "last calls" twice! NH in General, and the State gov't in particular, has a surplus of miserable, mean-spirited "conservative" reactionaries, short-sighted cheapskates and wannabe bad cops.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
44. We can almost see Mt. Ascutney. The neighbor above us has a view of it.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:15 PM
Dec 2021

Living in this state you always know it's just a matter of time before one of the idiot GOP state legislators says or does something so outrageous it makes national news. Sununu is no prize either. He had moments of rationality at the beginning of the pandemic, but it's business as usual now.

wnylib

(21,529 posts)
42. I hear ya. I am in a blue state, near a blue city,
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:08 PM
Dec 2021

but my own small city is purple, surrounded by very deep red rural areas. Our local infection rate is currently over 11%. And that's before the Christmas spike and before omicron arrives. Our hospital has 50 covid patients as of the latest statistics this week. There are only 2 hospitals in the entire county. Considering the high infection rate, our deaths have been relatively low but have been steadily increasing over the past few weeks.

And yet, in many stores and other public places, almost no one wears a mask. Churches have services without mask requirements and with the congregations and choirs singing. Traditional Christmas activities are resuming this year, including 2 indoor Christmas concerts and a Christmas parade where spectators .crowd together, shoulder to shoulder for a couple hours.

The vaccination rate here is 53%. What more could go wrong?

Botany

(70,539 posts)
4. We would not be going through this shit w/a President Hillary
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:35 AM
Dec 2021

Last edited Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Trump just had to fire Obama's global pandemic task force and the CDC's epidemiologist who was on
the ground in Wuhan, China, pull us out of an international task force called PREDICT that was on the
look out for things like the C-19 virus, blow off in the fall of '19 warnings about the disease, and then
have Jared and Pompeo ship 18 tons of PPE to China (TFG & Kusner owed them money) in Feb. 2020,
invest in hydroxycholorquine and his own C-19 test kit (neither worked), publicly lie about the disease,
and get his base so full of misinformation that to this day they are working to spread the disease because
they don't believe in science* and to "own the libs."


"I will die mad." (about the rat fucking of HRC in 2016)


*

LymphocyteLover

(5,648 posts)
8. 100% -- I think about this all the time and am still furious about how Hillary got screwed
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:10 AM
Dec 2021

it always boggles my mind that people support the fucking treasonous evil death cult GOP but such is the power of propaganda

Botany

(70,539 posts)
12. And on election day 2016 she was at something like a 90% chance of winning.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:17 AM
Dec 2021

Russia installed Trump as a means to cause chaos, disruption, and weaken America from
within by fracturing the nation along social, economic, and intellectual lines and Putin has
been successful beyond his wildest dreams with that goal. He knew Trump was an easily
manipulated and blackmailed idiot and had been grooming him for years to be his chaos
agent in America.

LymphocyteLover

(5,648 posts)
25. 11/9/2016 was one of the most frightening days of my life
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:35 AM
Dec 2021

the night of 11/8/2016, I had a truly awful panic attack

Botany

(70,539 posts)
27. By the morning of 11/8/2016 Florida was a done deal for Hillary ... her lead in the early vote ...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:55 AM
Dec 2021

... huge and Trump had to get something like 85% of all the election day vote in FL to
win and that COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED because some counties that were overwhelmingly
A.A. (black) voted that day too.

The Russian Duma broke out in cheers when they heard about TFG winning. Some even bragged
about beating American intel to rig the elections.

BTW I do not believe that TFG picked up 11 million votes from '16 to '20 either.

LymphocyteLover

(5,648 posts)
68. Wow, never heard that stat about Florida... stunning
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:29 PM
Dec 2021

I do also believe there was some funny business that padded Trump's vote in 2020.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
69. Before ERD voting machines the vote always matched
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:39 PM
Dec 2021

the exit polls. In 2016 HRC had " wins " in WI, MI , PA, NC, and FL in exit polling. TFG went all bat shit about mail in voting because it by- passed the machines.

McConnell and others have blocked election protection and election integrity work because they know they have been cheating. Which in order to stay in power they have to do.

pandr32

(11,595 posts)
29. All true
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:09 PM
Dec 2021

Because of our international position at the time and also because of the media an social platforms TFG's influence and support worked "to cause chaos, disruption, and weaken America" abroad, too.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
39. But every single one of them broke for Trump .... it was like shooting a b.b. through the eye...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:31 PM
Dec 2021

... of a needle @ 200 yds 10 times in a row.

Manafort and Gates did not give the Russian intelligence agent Konstantin Kilimnik
polling data but data analytics or what could be turned into d.a. so the Russians knew
where and by how much they had to rat fuck the elections.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-has-new-intel-manafort-friend-kilimnik-gave-trump-n1264371

Russia was into certain states at the county level too.

https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/2019/03/25/russian-hackers-attacked-wisconsin-elections-before-during-mueller-probe/3266933002/

oldsoftie

(12,575 posts)
51. Nothing has ever been shown proving ilegal ballots or illegal voting
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 06:11 PM
Dec 2021

And i'm not gonna go down the rabbit hole that all the damn trumpers now dwell in every day. She lost because of a few reasons. But it still was only by about 70k votes over 3 states

oldsoftie

(12,575 posts)
59. And it says they didnt try to disrupt the vote.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 08:55 PM
Dec 2021

But it also shows why a LOT of things need to stay the hell OFF the web. We had votes for 200 years without the internet. And definitely proof that we should never have online voting.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
63. Sure Putin spent many years and millions of dollars to hack into America's voter d-base file ...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:32 PM
Dec 2021

... just to "look around." TFG has all put admitted that Russia hacking into our voter d-base files
and ERD voting machines put him into power.

BTW I have been doing election protection work sense 2004.

oldsoftie

(12,575 posts)
65. But there is still no PROOF anything altered the vote. Pres Obama did warn Russia.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 08:44 AM
Dec 2021

Maybe Putin listened once he knew that WE knew. Until proof is shown to me i'm just not going to buy into '16 being "stolen". Because then I sound just like the idiot trumpers who point to actual oddities, improper rule changes & minor mistakes and make that proof of "the steal".
Thank you for doing the work you do. We need more people involved.

Delphinus

(11,835 posts)
19. Yep.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:17 AM
Dec 2021

I looked at Watson this morning on the Weather Channel and was surprised our county had over 1,000 cases yesterday. But it also hadn't shown any for the day before, so I wonder if they were together.

In any other national (worldwide) emergency, there would be a set of ways to do things instead of a mish here and a mash there.

LymphocyteLover

(5,648 posts)
24. Yes, I looked at the Indiana county map a few days ago and there were some shockingly
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:32 AM
Dec 2021

high counties. Some of the lowest case rates were in Marion and Monroe Counties, likely because most vaccinated...

wnylib

(21,529 posts)
43. My small NY city is averaging around 400 new cases weekly.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

We have only 2 hospitals in the county. We cannot look to the nearest larger city (Buffalo) for help because their rates are even higher.

paleotn

(17,933 posts)
6. Cold weather rolling into the east, letting down our guard...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:53 AM
Dec 2021

and a new, more contagious variant, plus an even newer, even more contagious variant (per early data). What could possibly go wrong this winter?

As the richest and most resource blessed nation on earth, we could have led the global effort to squash Covid in early 2020 while it was relatively isolated. Instead, the Trump admin gave us the worst pandemic response since the Black Death was blamed on Jewish folks. That window of opportunity is long gone and Biden is left to pick up the pieces after Covid has become as indigenous in human populations as the seasonal flu.

I suppose the takeaway is, the rest of the world cannot simply rely on the US to lead the way. Hear that, EU? Time to step up, if anyone can.

wnylib

(21,529 posts)
46. Covid might yet bite TFG in the ass.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:33 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Sat Dec 4, 2021, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Omicron causes more breakthrough infections than previous variants. People who have natural immunity from previous infections of covid can get reinfected with omicron. Seniors over 60 are among the most vulnerable. The safest protection now is to be fully vaxxed and boosted PLUS wear a mask and maintain social distance.

TFG is well over 60. His general health is not good. His previous infection will not protect him. He notoriously hates masks and will not wear one. Since he is no longer president, immediate access to Walter Reed with free, top level medical care is not a likely option for him. He lives in a state where masks are actually forbidden in some places.

The holiday season and its parties are here. What could possibly go wrong for TFG?

He might yet give us another cause for dancing in the streets.

hay rick

(7,628 posts)
14. Two viruses.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:47 AM
Dec 2021

Trump is responsible both for our catastrophic response to the Covid virus and the virus of Trumpism which has crippled our response to the epidemic. He should be recognized and treated as a disease organism.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
17. UVM Vermont
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:11 AM
Dec 2021

Is adding another ICU unit and a Covid unit.
Only essential surgeries will be performed.
Or local hospital had 1 ICU bed opened this week.
NYS announced that hospitals that are 90 % full will cancel elective surgeries.

Ms. Toad

(34,080 posts)
18. Great. One year after diagnosis with an aggressive cancer,
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:16 AM
Dec 2021

Heading into a slew of follow-up tests, my ability to have family present is restricted, again.

For the most serous portion of the surgery, In was allowed one visitor - so my daughter was excluded from being present. And during the initial diagnostic phase, I had to do medical appointments alone. (Not to mention that covid prevented me from traveling for a second opinion to the location which treats the most of this very rare cancer to assist in deciding whether I needed radiation, or could forego it. We had to rely on a low volume center - which, when you are talking about a cancer which is reported in case studies, rather than double blind studies, is not good.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
26. Trump and his right wing media empire...
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:44 AM
Dec 2021

thrive on cruelty and violence. He construes his culture war as a gambit that kills off liberals. He doesn't care if it also kills off MAGA supporters. They're just collateral damage.

oldsoftie

(12,575 posts)
32. Does everyone know that 1/3 of Americans have had Covid?
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:11 PM
Dec 2021

I just read that last week. I had NO idea that we had that many cases. Although I guess i shouldnt be surprised because i know so many people who HAVE had it

Larissa

(790 posts)
50. I've noticed that the news orgs don't like to ballpark the actual numbers
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 04:09 PM
Dec 2021

Of the death toll in the United States. They kind of dance around it without actually stating the up-to-date number. One of the things that really got me steamed was when Trump sat up with Bob Woodward and literally bragged about how he knew that the virus was airborne, but didn't want Americans to know this for fear of worrying them. He didn't give a rats a$$ as to whether or not Americans would be worried. His major concern was making buck on Covid and exploiting it in some way to get re-elected. He is a criminal who owns the crown of the worst president in American history.

808,455
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The number is likely higher because of fatalities that occurred early in the pandemic that were likely misdiagnosed.

oldsoftie

(12,575 posts)
52. Oh, my trump voting friends have been quick to point that out
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 06:13 PM
Dec 2021

We USED to see the death toll in the corner of the cable channels all day long. But not this year

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
33. My Opinion
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:14 PM
Dec 2021

DJT is Satan walking this earth. Just look at how he has conned others into following him!!! Do you ever hear of him doing anything 'good' for the citizens on this earth? No, because he is so busy doing evil. And........look at how he has conned so called Christians into believing him and following him. I believe it is Satan in disguise!!!

albacore

(2,399 posts)
34. We can hate trump all we want, but all the surveys show that 85+% of Repubs love him..
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:19 PM
Dec 2021

...and a clear majority of them want trump to run in '24.

The fact that the people in the minority Party love that creature, would vote for him, and is doing everything they can to subvert democracy is a larger target for my hate.
Without the evil that is today's Republican Party, trump would be an historical footnote.

Kath2

(3,089 posts)
37. I hate him, as well.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 12:42 PM
Dec 2021

I am just glad I had the opportunity to vote against him twice. And it looks like I'll do it a third time. He really is a horrible person.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
41. Crappy Presidents, Trump is the top or near the top..
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 01:40 PM
Dec 2021

Look at the deaths he caused

Nixon had a secret plan to end the Viet Nam War...He never ended it.
Who killed more people? If Trump would have come up with a plan, maybe Nixon..

But Trump had ...NO PLAN AT ALL

CIVIL WAR...KILLED 600,000 TO 700,000
tRUMP vIRUS....kILLED THE SAME..(i GUESS DEPENDS HOW YOU COUNT)

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
47. Not true. Placeholder had a very precise and evil plan.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 02:50 PM
Dec 2021

He was hoping the virus would kill off enough Democrats in the cities to flip blue states to red.

He didn’t count on the fact people in blue cities don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth and took precautions to protect themselves. Now the virus is mostly killing his supporters.

stage left

(2,964 posts)
48. We should really call it
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 03:26 PM
Dec 2021

the Trump virus instead of Covid. We could name the variants after his evil minions. Omicron, since it's so virulent, could be the Stephen Miller variant.

Demsrule86

(68,618 posts)
49. Hubs has Covid ...mild case thus far...and I hate hate Trump.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 03:42 PM
Dec 2021

I am negative...I had a booster. Hubs was working and didn't want to take time off even though I tried to get him to do so...

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
64. The world would be a MUCH better place now, if the U.S. would have had President Hillary Clinton.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 12:55 AM
Dec 2021

...instead of that former guy.

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