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Cyrano

(15,159 posts)
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:25 AM Dec 2021

So if Trump is hit by lightning,

it wouldn't change a damn thing. The Republican Party has gone over the insanity cliff and they haven't hit bottom because there is no bottom. And they have so many crazies who want to be president that Trump is no longer required.

Given Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression, and in some states, rules that the state legislature can decide who "won" an election, there seems to be no way to stop them from stealing the House in next year's election. And that will help make it easy for them to "win" the presidency in 2024.

Some (many?) are talking about a second Civil War. I don't believe it's going to happen. I believe that Democratic leaders don't have a clue as to how to fight the barbarians. I believe the Republicans are just going to skip the War and go straight to a GOP dictatorship. And I'm pretty certain it will resemble the Third Reich.

For those of you who think I'm an alarmist who has gone overboard, l really don't want to say "I told you so" as you're being marched in large groups to a huge "shower" room.

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So if Trump is hit by lightning, (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2021 OP
*Lightning True Dough Dec 2021 #1
Right with You colsohlibgal Dec 2021 #2
And with regard to the state legislatures being able to choose election winners Bettie Dec 2021 #3
I think you are right, the Pig drops dead, there is a long line of christofascists ready to shiv... Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #4
K&R n/t Dalai_1 Dec 2021 #5
Hopefully he is holding hands with Thomas and Alito...that could change some things Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #6
You're right. It's metastasized. nt. DeeNice Dec 2021 #7
I'm with you. I have very little hope remaining. Paladin Dec 2021 #8
I see camps set up for the left. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #9
Yep. I really believe we are similar to Cyrano Dec 2021 #14
Look at what happened in WW2. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #17
You Won't Get An Argument From Me SoCalDavidS Dec 2021 #10
His base would condemn God. Dan Dec 2021 #11
Nah. Their god is an old white magic guy in the sky Cyrano Dec 2021 #15
They'd crucify Jesus in a heartbeat though. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #31
One thing would change: If you think Trumpers believe way too many conspiracy theories already... Silent3 Dec 2021 #12
The crazies are ensuring that a very ugly era coming up Cyrano Dec 2021 #16
Very ugly future. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #18
Fanatics want to die for a cause, Dan Dec 2021 #25
K&R, GQP was anti-democracy before Putin's Whore uponit7771 Dec 2021 #13
TFG couldn't have happened without decades of groundwork being laid down. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #21
Yes, but if Trump *was* hit by lightning MurrayDelph Dec 2021 #19
That's pretty much how I'm seeing things at this point. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #20
I hope I am wrong. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #22
I want to say "You're wrong" PatSeg Dec 2021 #23
tRump would then become the Martyr President, cruelly cheated out librechik Dec 2021 #24
"Wasn't lightning. It was a Jewish space laser." Cyrano Dec 2021 #26
+100 librechik Dec 2021 #28
They would put Trump on a Cross. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #29
If Trump was hit by lightning, he would complain that the lightning bolt wasn't big enough. Initech Dec 2021 #27
Donnie Would Just Change Colors WHITT Dec 2021 #30
Trump would file a lawsuit against the Lightning. sarcasmo Dec 2021 #32
We'd smell the stench of burning bacon. bif Dec 2021 #33

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
2. Right with You
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:34 AM
Dec 2021

Just did another check on emigrating to Canada if our worst fears come to pass. They are on it....now they will assign a Canadian agent to help you do this. Never imagined I’d consider this but here we are....and the plus is there is no language barrier.

Bettie

(16,447 posts)
3. And with regard to the state legislatures being able to choose election winners
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:35 AM
Dec 2021

So, say Joe Magat and several of his right wing compatriots lose their statehouse seats in an election.

Because they are the sitting members of the legislature at that moment, they can hold a session to invalidate the results and, AMAZING coincidence, not only were they not defeated, the ONLY people who won any election were the Republican candidates.

No, you can't see the numbers, but be assured, we know who won and who lost!

I guess we'll have to wait and see how craven they are, but I'm not holding my breath for any of them to have even the tiniest whisper of ethics.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. I think you are right, the Pig drops dead, there is a long line of christofascists ready to shiv...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:38 AM
Dec 2021

each other to gain der Fuhrer's mantle.

Paladin

(28,472 posts)
8. I'm with you. I have very little hope remaining.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:54 AM
Dec 2021

Democrats lost the will to fight some time ago, and the Republicans have been taking advantage of it ever since. A second civil war is an optimistic prediction.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
9. I see camps set up for the left.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:45 AM
Dec 2021

2016 was our chance.

Trump should never had been in the white house.

The Republican will come down hard if they get back into power .

That is why my housemate and I are leaving the country.

Everything is in motion now.

Garland is a disaster.

January 6th was just a warn up.

Cyrano

(15,159 posts)
14. Yep. I really believe we are similar to
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:34 PM
Dec 2021

1933 Germany, the year in which a Nazi minority seized power.

Mark Twain said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme ..." I doubt we'll see gas chambers/"showers." But who doubts that a mental case like Marjorie Taylor Greene would demand mass executions in the "public square?"

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
17. Look at what happened in WW2.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:43 PM
Dec 2021

America citizens put in camps because they were of Japanese descent.

It can happen.

The only thing to save us is the abortion issue.

 

Silent3

(15,900 posts)
12. One thing would change: If you think Trumpers believe way too many conspiracy theories already...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:30 PM
Dec 2021

...that would be nothing compared to what would (and will, no matter when or how) happen after Trump's death.

I'm not sure about a Civil War. Democrats aren't putting up a sufficient fight now, but if Trump (or similar) gets into power any goes Nazi, I think many Democratically-led states would likely resist and secede (or try to). And since even the bluest blue state still has plenty of Trumpers in it, those Trumpers would go nuts and all hell would break loose.

Cyrano

(15,159 posts)
16. The crazies are ensuring that a very ugly era coming up
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:42 PM
Dec 2021

And I've given up on the leadership of our party understanding how to confront fascism. What we need is thousands more like Stacey Abrams.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
18. Very ugly future.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:51 PM
Dec 2021

I am not afraid of a fight but will there be enough of us to fight back.

This will be the last holiday season in the house.

Next holiday season Canada or Mexico.

I have my father's WW2 dog tag on my keychain.
So many fought and died for this to happen.

Dan

(3,729 posts)
25. Fanatics want to die for a cause,
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:23 PM
Dec 2021

Good military thinking people will help them die for their cause.

Crunchy Frog

(26,757 posts)
21. TFG couldn't have happened without decades of groundwork being laid down.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:08 PM
Dec 2021

And decades of blindness from our side.

Crunchy Frog

(26,757 posts)
20. That's pretty much how I'm seeing things at this point.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:01 PM
Dec 2021

It's why I wake up in the early mornings in a heart pounding panic.

There may very well be a civil war of some sort, but I don't see any initiative for it coming from our party leadership. How many people would just keep their heads down and submit out of fear? And I count myself in that if I'm unfortunate enough to still be here.

I don't think there will be any shortage of people willing to shoot us, lock us up, torture us, or subject us to show trials for insane Q type shit. Our society has been being systematically desensitized to violence and death for decades now. We yawn at mass shootings, and we've barely blinked over a plague that's killed nearly a million of us.

And yes, I want very much to get my family out the country well before the next presidential election. Just waiting for the pandemic to hopefully die down some before getting started on that.

I honestly pray that the people who think we're being silly alarmists turn out to be right.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
22. I hope I am wrong.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:10 PM
Dec 2021

I hope the abortion issue will wake up enough people.

The far right is now crazy.

I would put nothing past them.

Look at Jan. 6th but on a bigger scale.

To on many on the left do not have guns to protect themselves from the crazy right wing neighbor next door.

librechik

(30,718 posts)
24. tRump would then become the Martyr President, cruelly cheated out
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:15 PM
Dec 2021

of his destiny, and no proof would ever be offered or needed, for the inevitable catastrophe. US will be running on the "non reality is equal to reality when you wish hard enough" platform. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!??????

Cyrano

(15,159 posts)
26. "Wasn't lightning. It was a Jewish space laser."
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 01:23 PM
Dec 2021

The crazies wouldn't be able to resist this explanation. Their anti-semitism is right up there with all the others they hate.

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