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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo if Trump is hit by lightning,
it wouldn't change a damn thing. The Republican Party has gone over the insanity cliff and they haven't hit bottom because there is no bottom. And they have so many crazies who want to be president that Trump is no longer required.
Given Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression, and in some states, rules that the state legislature can decide who "won" an election, there seems to be no way to stop them from stealing the House in next year's election. And that will help make it easy for them to "win" the presidency in 2024.
Some (many?) are talking about a second Civil War. I don't believe it's going to happen. I believe that Democratic leaders don't have a clue as to how to fight the barbarians. I believe the Republicans are just going to skip the War and go straight to a GOP dictatorship. And I'm pretty certain it will resemble the Third Reich.
For those of you who think I'm an alarmist who has gone overboard, l really don't want to say "I told you so" as you're being marched in large groups to a huge "shower" room.
True Dough
(19,803 posts)And, yes, the ReThugs seem mighty rotten to the core these days.
colsohlibgal
(5,276 posts)Just did another check on emigrating to Canada if our worst fears come to pass. They are on it....now they will assign a Canadian agent to help you do this. Never imagined Id consider this but here we are....and the plus is there is no language barrier.
Bettie
(16,835 posts)So, say Joe Magat and several of his right wing compatriots lose their statehouse seats in an election.
Because they are the sitting members of the legislature at that moment, they can hold a session to invalidate the results and, AMAZING coincidence, not only were they not defeated, the ONLY people who won any election were the Republican candidates.
No, you can't see the numbers, but be assured, we know who won and who lost!
I guess we'll have to wait and see how craven they are, but I'm not holding my breath for any of them to have even the tiniest whisper of ethics.
Thomas Hurt
(13,924 posts)each other to gain der Fuhrer's mantle.
Buckeyeblue
(5,658 posts)DeeNice
(576 posts)Paladin
(28,699 posts)Democrats lost the will to fight some time ago, and the Republicans have been taking advantage of it ever since. A second civil war is an optimistic prediction.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)2016 was our chance.
Trump should never had been in the white house.
The Republican will come down hard if they get back into power .
That is why my housemate and I are leaving the country.
Everything is in motion now.
Garland is a disaster.
January 6th was just a warn up.
Cyrano
(15,282 posts)1933 Germany, the year in which a Nazi minority seized power.
Mark Twain said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme ..." I doubt we'll see gas chambers/"showers." But who doubts that a mental case like Marjorie Taylor Greene would demand mass executions in the "public square?"
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)America citizens put in camps because they were of Japanese descent.
It can happen.
The only thing to save us is the abortion issue.
SoCalDavidS
(9,999 posts)l agree 100% with everything you had to say.
Dan
(3,982 posts)Cyrano
(15,282 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,886 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)...that would be nothing compared to what would (and will, no matter when or how) happen after Trump's death.
I'm not sure about a Civil War. Democrats aren't putting up a sufficient fight now, but if Trump (or similar) gets into power any goes Nazi, I think many Democratically-led states would likely resist and secede (or try to). And since even the bluest blue state still has plenty of Trumpers in it, those Trumpers would go nuts and all hell would break loose.
Cyrano
(15,282 posts)And I've given up on the leadership of our party understanding how to confront fascism. What we need is thousands more like Stacey Abrams.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I am not afraid of a fight but will there be enough of us to fight back.
This will be the last holiday season in the house.
Next holiday season Canada or Mexico.
I have my father's WW2 dog tag on my keychain.
So many fought and died for this to happen.
Dan
(3,982 posts)Good military thinking people will help them die for their cause.
uponit7771
(91,317 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,886 posts)And decades of blindness from our side.
MurrayDelph
(5,412 posts)It couldn't help but make him brighter.
Crunchy Frog
(26,886 posts)It's why I wake up in the early mornings in a heart pounding panic.
There may very well be a civil war of some sort, but I don't see any initiative for it coming from our party leadership. How many people would just keep their heads down and submit out of fear? And I count myself in that if I'm unfortunate enough to still be here.
I don't think there will be any shortage of people willing to shoot us, lock us up, torture us, or subject us to show trials for insane Q type shit. Our society has been being systematically desensitized to violence and death for decades now. We yawn at mass shootings, and we've barely blinked over a plague that's killed nearly a million of us.
And yes, I want very much to get my family out the country well before the next presidential election. Just waiting for the pandemic to hopefully die down some before getting started on that.
I honestly pray that the people who think we're being silly alarmists turn out to be right.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I hope the abortion issue will wake up enough people.
The far right is now crazy.
I would put nothing past them.
Look at Jan. 6th but on a bigger scale.
To on many on the left do not have guns to protect themselves from the crazy right wing neighbor next door.
PatSeg
(49,584 posts)but sadly, I think you are right.
librechik
(30,783 posts)of his destiny, and no proof would ever be offered or needed, for the inevitable catastrophe. US will be running on the "non reality is equal to reality when you wish hard enough" platform. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!??????
Cyrano
(15,282 posts)The crazies wouldn't be able to resist this explanation. Their anti-semitism is right up there with all the others they hate.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Carry him around.