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LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:24 AM Dec 2021

How many people here have had a troll respond with...

…”Adoption not Abortion!!!”?

We have a Supreme Court justice making the exact same argument a troll would make. Her personal choice of adoption should not have any relevance to the judicial question at hand.

This was a very long game set up with her. “She can’t be racist, because she adopted a minority.” “She can’t be criticized for her religion cause other justices are Catholic.” and finally, “see, she walks the walk and adopted, so all women, young girls and rape victims should bring to term and give them over to adoption services.”

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How many people here have had a troll respond with... (Original Post) LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 OP
There's a whole adoption industry bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #1
They also are feeding them 4Q2u2 Dec 2021 #10
More children for the priests? wnylib Dec 2021 #20
That is just a Bonus 4Q2u2 Dec 2021 #22
Then the adoption industry NJCher Dec 2021 #2
Yes! That's a perfect idea. Tax the rich to pay for it. Bluethroughu Dec 2021 #6
I have said this before Diamond_Dog Dec 2021 #3
As has been oft said ... NanceGreggs Dec 2021 #11
Every sports bar, barber shop, and local mechanic shop. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #38
It's not that they don't get it, they don't care. Ray Bruns Dec 2021 #26
+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2021 #36
The states with the strictest abortion laws have the highest infant mortality rates TheRickles Dec 2021 #34
I reply with "So how many have YOU adopted then?" canuckledragger Dec 2021 #4
You're talking about a woman ... NanceGreggs Dec 2021 #5
Excellent point. Her husband is doing their bidding. Bluethroughu Dec 2021 #8
Even without abortion as an issue... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #16
"The Dems want a chick ... NanceGreggs Dec 2021 #17
That right there was, IMHO, more offensive than "grab'em". LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #35
Just remind them of all the unwanted babies that wind up in dumpsters, GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #7
Conservatives have convinced the courts that a fetus has more rights than its mother. LonePirate Dec 2021 #9
They're salivating over the future cheap labor. GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #12
not even a fetus... DeeNice Dec 2021 #18
White babies... Claire Oh Nette Dec 2021 #32
Legislation should require impregnator to provide mandatory prenatal and child support for 18 years elias7 Dec 2021 #13
Yes seta1950 Dec 2021 #25
Never. This is all about control over women. Ray Bruns Dec 2021 #28
+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2021 #37
"You can just put it up for adoption. No worries." You're going to tell that to the 13 y/o girl 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #14
I've heard that argument for many years EYESORE 9001 Dec 2021 #15
Where do you think all those kids taken from their parents at the border ended up? ashredux Dec 2021 #19
You make a great point seta1950 Dec 2021 #24
whole lot more than $10K Claire Oh Nette Dec 2021 #30
Adoption is an option for someone who doesn't want to parent. Abortion is an option for someone who WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #21
Wow. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #27
Well said. nt crickets Dec 2021 #33
Who says seta1950 Dec 2021 #23
Adoption is not the opposite of abortion... Claire Oh Nette Dec 2021 #29
She's a lawyer at heart, so adoption, which is a windfall profiteering business, is her choice lees1975 Dec 2021 #31
 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
10. They also are feeding them
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:39 AM
Dec 2021

New recruits. Catholic Charities has a huge adoption industry and has discriminatory practices built in.
People are fleeing the Church by the thousands now. Have to make those Christian Soldiers somehow.
What better way than have a young person to completely indoctrinate.

Diamond_Dog

(31,929 posts)
3. I have said this before
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:34 AM
Dec 2021

Many more women die from childbirth than from an abortion. Death from an abortion is very rare, yet maternal mortality in some states is akin to the same statistics of a third world country. But the “pro-lifers” don’t get it.

“Adoption, not abortion” is a simplistic, shallow, slogan. One size does not fit all. The very idea that male politicians can force a woman to go through with this trauma is sickening.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
11. As has been oft said ...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:40 AM
Dec 2021

... if men could get pregnant, there'd be more abortion clinics than there are Starbucks.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
5. You're talking about a woman ...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:37 AM
Dec 2021

... who thinks a wife should obey her husband without question, even to the point of voting for whoever her husband dictates she should vote for.

After I heard her say that, I wondered why the senators participating in her confirmation hearing didn't insist on questioning her husband - given that he would be making her SCOTUS decisions for her.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
16. Even without abortion as an issue...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:10 AM
Dec 2021

…the Republican Party, as a whole, told everyone their exact thoughts on women when they ran Sarah Palin as Vice President.

“See vagina. Same thing.”

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
35. That right there was, IMHO, more offensive than "grab'em".
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:50 PM
Dec 2021

The grabbing comment was blatant and at a certain point you just realize the person is so terrible it isn’t worth it. The other was some insidious shit.

Running Sarah Palin as an answer to Hillary Clinton is like eating at a fine dining establishment, lifting a buttcheek, ripping a huge stinkier and then calmly going back to feeding yourself while everyone else is in the process of expelling their meals.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
7. Just remind them of all the unwanted babies that wind up in dumpsters,
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:37 AM
Dec 2021

drowned in a toilet when their 14-year-old mother gave birth in the school bathroom, or abandoned in an alley, where they freeze to death... But, at least they weren't aborted, right Amy?

LonePirate

(13,409 posts)
9. Conservatives have convinced the courts that a fetus has more rights than its mother.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:39 AM
Dec 2021

It's insane and they won't stop with abortion rights.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
12. They're salivating over the future cheap labor.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:52 AM
Dec 2021

They love to rail on about the Chinese Communist Party, but the situation in China is exactly what they want for us. The Chinese have hundreds of millions of people, most of whom are working for dirt wages. And, that's not including the hundreds of thousands they round up on trumped-up charges, and turn them into the prison labor that makes a lot of the cheap shit they send here for us to purchase. Meanwhile, the guys at the top are filthy rich. It's a similar situation in Russia, too, where the average annual income is something like $4000. Meanwhile, Putin and his cronies are billionaires. It's no wonder so many GOPers are in bed with him.

DeeNice

(575 posts)
18. not even a fetus...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:18 AM
Dec 2021

Depending on who you ask an embryo doesn't become a fetus until at least 8 weeks. And they want to place a 6 week limit. Those are all embryos. Embryos to which they want to grant more rights than the fully grown person whose uterus it's in.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
32. White babies...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:19 PM
Dec 2021

"Conservatives have convinced the courts that a fetus has more rights than its mother."

Conservative men do not view women as equal. They're job is to procreate and hate sex. Just so long as their Fetus may turn out to be another white male.

The GOP has known since the 70s that demographic trends do not favor while, male, and conservative. The GOP does not care one whit about women, or their babies. But by god, they're not going to let those fuzzy little foreign brown people out breed the good ol'boys. If it were just Black and Latino women having abortions, the GOP would set clinics up in every strip mall.

The Gross Old Pervs, with their little blue pills, want to be sure more white babies are born. Look at the nonsense of the Quiverfull movement. Uneducated women pumping out another baby every 16 months so someone like Josh Duggar can diddle them. There's your family values.

Viagra ads are fine, bent carrot ads are fine, but god forbid we allow young women to see an ad about contraceptives or tampax. Who do these old renewed boner boyz think they're going to f***?

Women will not go backwards. No sir.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
13. Legislation should require impregnator to provide mandatory prenatal and child support for 18 years
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 09:55 AM
Dec 2021

Where are the men in all this? Ridiculous...

70sEraVet

(3,474 posts)
14. "You can just put it up for adoption. No worries." You're going to tell that to the 13 y/o girl
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:28 AM
Dec 2021

impregnated by her 50 y/o uncle?
The result will be:
As the number of abortions go down
The number of suicides will go up.

EYESORE 9001

(25,911 posts)
15. I've heard that argument for many years
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 10:55 AM
Dec 2021

It has no more validity than the first time I heard it. The logic behind that argument still scores a big fat zero.

ashredux

(2,599 posts)
19. Where do you think all those kids taken from their parents at the border ended up?
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:29 AM
Dec 2021

Where do you think all those kids taken from their parents at the border ended up… The ones we can’t find

The far right Christian adoption agencies, that sold them off at bout 10 grand ahead

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
30. whole lot more than $10K
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:10 PM
Dec 2021

Church groups swarming the border and Haiti after the earthquake are no different form those who wanted to civilize the Indian out of native American children.

All in the name of Christainity. Forced conversion at the hands of one's "parents."

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,309 posts)
21. Adoption is an option for someone who doesn't want to parent. Abortion is an option for someone who
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:40 AM
Dec 2021

doesn't want to be pregnant.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
27. Wow.
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 11:48 AM
Dec 2021

That is the most salient way I’ve ever seen the issue worded.

Thank you.

You just destroyed a Supreme Court justice’s argument.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
29. Adoption is not the opposite of abortion...
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:06 PM
Dec 2021

Long lasting psychological trauma on the mother and the child from separation at birth.

Social engineering by any other name.

When there are no more American born children, of color, with disabilities, with special needs, older than diaper and pull-up age waiting in foster care to be adopted, then, maybe, we can talk about adoption. Overturn Roe, and we're right back to the Baby Scoop era of the 50s and 60s.

Infants are not commodities to be bought an sold. Nopety, nope, nope.

lees1975

(3,843 posts)
31. She's a lawyer at heart, so adoption, which is a windfall profiteering business, is her choice
Fri Dec 3, 2021, 12:13 PM
Dec 2021

If you are really serious about considering adoption as an alternative to abortion, then the legal system needs to shove a whole lot of its profiteered cash windfalls to help cover the costs, or lower their fees. It's a money maker. Having been through the process with an agency that was owned and operated by a religious denomination, and eventually being told it would cost around $30,000, we decided to wait in line with the state agency, which took two years and cost $13,000 mostly in legal fees.

So I'm not surprised she has zero understanding of what regular people have to go through.

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