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jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 05:14 PM Nov 2021

Why does the nationwide crime wave smell of Trump?

Here’s what I think is happening:

1) Trump mobilizes his minions to do shootings, robberies and all sorts of other mayhem.

2) Trump’s minions do what he wants. Vast numbers of mass shootings and property crimes happen.

3) In 2024 Trump runs on an “only I can end this crime wave” platform.

4) When the bastard gets re-elected he immediately orders his minions to stop robbing and killing.

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Why does the nationwide crime wave smell of Trump? (Original Post) jmowreader Nov 2021 OP
I don't think his minions Turbineguy Nov 2021 #1
I think you are overthinking this Abnredleg Nov 2021 #2
But it IS organized by Russia. Sogo Nov 2021 #23
Doubt Ace Rothstein Nov 2021 #3
I disagree. nt Raine Nov 2021 #4
Doubtful. This kind of thing has been going on for years, probably more now Ocelot II Nov 2021 #5
No iemanja Nov 2021 #6
Nah. relayerbob Nov 2021 #7
You are right to look for patterns, but copycats are also a plausible explanation bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #8
Didn't 20% of prison population get released after CV19 breakout? tia uponit7771 Nov 2021 #9
He still gets orders from Putin I'm sure, and Putin loves chaos here in the States. sigh. n/t SheilaAnn Nov 2021 #10
Bingo. Sogo Nov 2021 #24
He told them to get vaccinated... lame54 Nov 2021 #11
Because all death, destruction and disease smells of that fascist. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2021 #12
That's a pretty wacky conspiracy theory. beaglelover Nov 2021 #13
If the smash&grabs were being done by Trump minions, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2021 #14
Leave it to the right Philosophizing Fool Nov 2021 #15
I don't think so NBachers Nov 2021 #16
Where Is The Evidence... ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #17
What is this conspiracy theory nonsense? tritsofme Nov 2021 #18
It smells more likely Putin maxrandb Nov 2021 #19
Agree, social media has become the tool of choice radius777 Nov 2021 #27
Yes, allowing the social media companies to say; "trust us" maxrandb Nov 2021 #29
It smells like gangs to me Polybius Nov 2021 #20
Thank You. That's exactly what it is. Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #26
Chump can't plan this stuff, and he won't get re-elected FakeNoose Nov 2021 #21
He isn't a super villain. Or Lex Luther. JanMichael Nov 2021 #22
He's a 4 watt light bulb. Kaleva Nov 2021 #31
Lol what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #25
what you're saying makes a lot of sense cadoman Nov 2021 #28
ProfessorGAC asks a good question in post #17. Where's the evidence that TFG has the smarts to do it Kaleva Nov 2021 #30
Another evidence-less conspiracy theory. brooklynite Nov 2021 #32
Sounds like creative speculation. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #33
I think you're giving Trump way, way too much credit. SKKY Nov 2021 #34

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
2. I think you are overthinking this
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 05:20 PM
Nov 2021

Smash and grabs have been around for awhile - this is not organized by Trump.

Ocelot II

(115,686 posts)
5. Doubtful. This kind of thing has been going on for years, probably more now
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 05:24 PM
Nov 2021

on account of covid. For the most part it's crime rings that get young people to do the stealing for a cut of the profits; the masterminds sell the stuff online. TFG won't do anything that doesn't benefit him directly and personally.

bucolic_frolic

(43,157 posts)
8. You are right to look for patterns, but copycats are also a plausible explanation
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 05:25 PM
Nov 2021

Let's see if the evidence supports such patterns. MAGA thugs, not locally organized, that sort of thing.

But you are right to ponder. The DNC/RNC bomber still remains unexplained, and if that wasn't meant to create chaos ....

lame54

(35,287 posts)
11. He told them to get vaccinated...
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 05:45 PM
Nov 2021

And they booed him

He may have given them permission but he doesn't control them

 
15. Leave it to the right
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 07:06 PM
Nov 2021

Fabricating a belief in hopes that it may be true is better left to the extreme spectrums of political adherents. With a sense, whether true or not, that district attorneys will be less likely to prosecute non-violent crimes the environment has inevitably lead to this. Long hours of constructive community service may be better than prison and provide a much needed revitalization in local engagement. The old ways and current ones haven't had the results that were hoped for.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
17. Where Is The Evidence...
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 10:21 PM
Nov 2021

...that TFG is capable of formulating & executing on a tactical plan?
I don't think he planned taking over a half billion dollar enterprise & keeping it afloat with crushing debt.
He plans nothing. Everything is seat of the pants.
Even 1/6 wasn't his plan. It was the slime surrounding him that set that up.

maxrandb

(15,326 posts)
19. It smells more likely Putin
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:11 AM
Nov 2021

But since he and Donnie Shit for Brains operate the same way, it is possible.

It really comes down to social media. Could foreign intel operatives be exploiting social media platforms? It seems highly unlikely that a group of 30-60 people all decided on their own to participate in mass smash and grabs.

Something must be done about social media.

If newspapers were running ads, or promoting and helping coordinate mass robberies, or criminal activity, we wouldn't stand for it.

If they were using the USPS to organize, schedule and facilitate crime, we wouldn't stand for it.

If a radio host said; " hey, everybody join up at Best Buy at 2000 Main St in Chicago and grabs some TVs, we wouldn't stand for it.

Hell, if we found out that criminals were using rotary telephones to arrange flash crimes, we wouldn't stand for it.

Yes, social media is a great tool for communicating and connecting, but it's not a fucking suicide pact.

These robberies are being coordinated through publicly available media platforms.

Seems that we should give social media an ultimatum.

Either get your shit together in one sock, or get broken up into a billion tiny pieces.

Anything that can be used to facilitate these types of crimes needs to be regulated and be subject to government oversight.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
27. Agree, social media has become the tool of choice
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 03:07 AM
Nov 2021

for terrorists and regular criminals alike. Problem is our concept of law enforcement is outdated, we should have agencies on the state and federal level scanning social media for potential crime.

maxrandb

(15,326 posts)
29. Yes, allowing the social media companies to say; "trust us"
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 08:13 AM
Nov 2021

Is a surefire way to fail.

It's not enough to say; " hey, when we see stuff like this we remove it from them platform"

Talk about closing the barn door after the horse has run away.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
26. Thank You. That's exactly what it is.
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 02:11 AM
Nov 2021

The gangs recruit non-memebers to do the smash and grabs. They pay them big bucks to do it.

FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
21. Chump can't plan this stuff, and he won't get re-elected
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 12:28 AM
Nov 2021

The only trouble he's interested in is related to making him rich, or making him famous.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
30. ProfessorGAC asks a good question in post #17. Where's the evidence that TFG has the smarts to do it
Sun Nov 28, 2021, 08:28 AM
Nov 2021
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