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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 04:51 PM Nov 2021

Beto O'Rourke Shows Exactly Republicans In Texas Are Terrified Of Him

Beto O’Rourke Shows Exactly Republicans In Texas Are Terrified Of Him

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/11/21/beto-orourke-shows-exactly-republicans-in-texas-are-terrified-of-him.html

"SNIP......

During a Sunday morning interview, Beto O’Rourke delivered a Texas first message that rejected divisiveness and shows why Republicans are scared.

.......

It’s not so much my time. It’s the time for Texas to realize our full potential. We really want to get back to doing the big things in this state, focusing on creating the best jobs in America right here in Texas, world-class public schools for our kids, and moving forward on common-sense ideas, like expanding Medicaid, getting away from the extremism and divisiveness of Greg Abbott, the abortion ban that puts a $10,000 bounty on the head of any Texas woman trying to make her own reproductive health care decisions, the permitless carry bill he signed into law that allows anyone to carry a loaded firearm in public without any background check, without any kind of training whatsoever, these policies that pit Texans against one another are keeping us from doing the big things that we really should be doing

I want to help bring this state together not as Democrats and not as Republicans but as Texans and get back after doing the big things that Texas used to be known for. I don’t know so much about the national political climate. I do know what the people in Texas want, and I want to make sure as a candidate and governor I deliver on that. 

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Beto O'Rourke Shows Exactly Republicans In Texas Are Terrified Of Him (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2021 OP
No they are not. Kinky Friedman could beat Beto. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #1
Who would you suggest? We have almost no one with name recognition walkingman Nov 2021 #2
I have someone in mind, but I'm not sure if she wants to try to fill her mom's shoes DFW Nov 2021 #29
Agree, I don't know much about her but she is doing a great job for Planned Parenthood. walkingman Nov 2021 #35
I've known her for quite a few years DFW Nov 2021 #45
Not only that, he pretty much admitted he didn't want the President endorsing him. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #3
That pissed me off tremendously Danmel Nov 2021 #8
Yep, and he is saying the federal government is failing at the border madville Nov 2021 #9
You got a link for that statement? TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #21
It was on CNN on the TV machine, but I'll bet you can find it on the google machine too. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #24
Texas governor hopeful Beto O'Rourke criticizes Biden on immigration PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #27
Nothing in there saying he would not accept an endoresement. TheRealNorth Nov 2021 #40
Aw shucks, I guess we lost! N/t gay texan Nov 2021 #5
I am not a Texan Diamond_Dog Nov 2021 #4
brace yourself... jcgoldie Nov 2021 #6
There is nothing passive aggressive about it. Read the Room. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #10
"read the room" jcgoldie Nov 2021 #12
You don't win mayor of Miami by promoting stronger banking reporting laws. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #15
The room is discussing Abbott's infrastructure failure in Feb. also Torchlight Nov 2021 #17
Doubtfully that AR-15 owners ever vote Democratic. Not a one. If applegrove Nov 2021 #13
After 40 yr of painting Dems as gun-grabbers NickB79 Nov 2021 #38
Oh, I am braced blogslug Nov 2021 #25
Well it's true Polybius Nov 2021 #42
Beto is a gift to the GOP. They LOVE him NickB79 Nov 2021 #7
Agreed. But Abbott screwed himself with the power grid situation budkin Nov 2021 #11
Yes it should be an easy victory. Texas has elected dem governors before. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #16
"Texas has elected dem governors before" left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #32
Beto Danang1968 Nov 2021 #14
doubtful RussBLib Nov 2021 #18
Beto Danang1968 Nov 2021 #19
The vast majority of guns are not registered DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #20
1 million out of 29 million is not "the majority" - that's 1 million _registered_ guns... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #28
That registry is for legally built Class 2 and Class 3 guns NickB79 Nov 2021 #39
add to this - a lot of Texas democrats own guns. harumph Nov 2021 #23
K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #22
Make Texas Blue Again IronLionZion Nov 2021 #26
Republicans In Texas Are Terrified Of O'Rourke left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #30
Their panic is real whether/not he wins. They try to mock by calling him "Robert Francis" UTUSN Nov 2021 #31
The Repubs are terrified all right Dopers_Greed Nov 2021 #33
The troll-o-meter tells me Beto is a big threat. Go Beto. applegrove Nov 2021 #34
Thanks. I agree, and I am here in Texas. txwhitedove Nov 2021 #36
Beto lindalou65 Nov 2021 #37
Hahaha, good one Polybius Nov 2021 #41
It'll be a bigger gap than that Sur Zobra Nov 2021 #43
I wish Beto would try for another US Representative seat. SYFROYH Nov 2021 #44
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
1. No they are not. Kinky Friedman could beat Beto.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 04:53 PM
Nov 2021

The democrats need to run someone who can win in Texas. Beto has proven that he has a foot that he like to insert in mouth. We don't need another Virginia style race grasping defeat from the jaws of victory.

walkingman

(7,609 posts)
2. Who would you suggest? We have almost no one with name recognition
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 04:57 PM
Nov 2021

in the state because the "assholes" have run this state for decades. Abbott is a absolute POS.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
29. I have someone in mind, but I'm not sure if she wants to try to fill her mom's shoes
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:33 PM
Nov 2021

Cecile Richards is one powerhouse of a person. I only wish she had higher ambitions.

walkingman

(7,609 posts)
35. Agree, I don't know much about her but she is doing a great job for Planned Parenthood.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 08:00 PM
Nov 2021

You can't really blame her in today's political environment but if she is anything like her Mom I think she would do well. Especially in light of the Texas Abortion law.

It is going to be difficult but I am desperately hoping to see my beloved state get back to like it was in the 70's and 80's. I was transferred to Houston in '72 and I thought it was the best place I had ever lived. Not so much these days.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
45. I've known her for quite a few years
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:55 AM
Nov 2021

But I haven't seen her lately, not since the Obama days. She always seemed more comfortable out there in the wide world than in the confines of Texas. As a matter of fact, in all these years, I have never once run into her in Texas--usually just in Washington, once even in the White House (Obama days, of course).

Danmel

(4,913 posts)
8. That pissed me off tremendously
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:18 PM
Nov 2021

Way to support our Democratic President. Manchin and Sinema don't need Beto's help.

madville

(7,410 posts)
9. Yep, and he is saying the federal government is failing at the border
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:23 PM
Nov 2021

That’s not going to win any friends in the current administration.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
24. It was on CNN on the TV machine, but I'll bet you can find it on the google machine too.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 06:55 PM
Nov 2021

He was pressed repeatedly on it, and he would not say he wanted Biden there.

If I remember the talking head interviewing him, I'd be happy to tell you, but she's not one I remember.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
27. Texas governor hopeful Beto O'Rourke criticizes Biden on immigration
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:26 PM
Nov 2021

From: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/texas-governor-hopeful-beto-orourke-criticizes-biden-immigration-2021-11-21/

Nov 21 (Reuters) - Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic former U.S. congressman who is running for governor of Texas, on Sunday criticized President Joe Biden for a lack of urgency on pursuing a revamp of immigration laws, indicating he will distance himself from the White House in his underdog campaign.

...

"I do not think we have seen enough urgency when it comes to rewriting our immigration laws to match the needs and the reality that we see, especially in our border communities," O'Rourke told CNN's "State of the Union" program on Sunday. "So, yes, we expect more of our president and those who represent us in Congress."

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
40. Nothing in there saying he would not accept an endoresement.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 09:55 PM
Nov 2021

Beto was just critical of Biden's response to dealing with undocumented immigrants, and did not want to make his campaign about Biden (which makes sense, since Biden's approval is currently underwater).

Diamond_Dog

(31,989 posts)
4. I am not a Texan
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:11 PM
Nov 2021

But I would imagine when he keeps saying “we’re coming after your guns” that doesn’t go over too well.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
6. brace yourself...
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:16 PM
Nov 2021

...for all the incoming DU experts who will flood this thread with passive aggressive defeatist bullshit about how Beto can never win anything because he supports gun control.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
10. There is nothing passive aggressive about it. Read the Room.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:25 PM
Nov 2021

If the republicans ran an Anti-pot candidate in CO, I would expect a similar outcome.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
12. "read the room"
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:28 PM
Nov 2021

So Democrats should just surrender the gun issue in wake of protesters being mowed down in the streets with AR 15s and endless perpetual school shootings because we've decided to read the room instead of fighting for core policy issues. And if any candidate dares to stand up for those issues then we'll just trash them every chance we get on the internet. Gotcha.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
15. You don't win mayor of Miami by promoting stronger banking reporting laws.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:31 PM
Nov 2021

You don't win Texas by stating you will grab thier guns.

Politics is local.

Torchlight

(3,331 posts)
17. The room is discussing Abbott's infrastructure failure in Feb. also
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:33 PM
Nov 2021

It's tough, if not impossible to go one evening of local evening news in TX without a reference, direct or indirect, to the fatal, deep freeze of Feb.

I think a lot of out-of-staters minimize the impact it had on us, and the conversations it forced.

Much, much easier however to go an evening with no mention of Beto's particular position.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
13. Doubtfully that AR-15 owners ever vote Democratic. Not a one. If
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:28 PM
Nov 2021

Beto keeps the focus it narrow, it might work.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
38. After 40 yr of painting Dems as gun-grabbers
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 08:58 PM
Nov 2021

It doesn't matter how narrow the focus is anymore. If you have to explain in detail why your gun ban isn't THAT bad of a gun ban, you're already losing the argument.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
7. Beto is a gift to the GOP. They LOVE him
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:18 PM
Nov 2021

With his "coming to take your AR-15" comment.

That's gotta rank up there with some of the dumbest things politicians have ever said.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
11. Agreed. But Abbott screwed himself with the power grid situation
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:28 PM
Nov 2021

Which people here are MUCH more concerned about.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
16. Yes it should be an easy victory. Texas has elected dem governors before.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:32 PM
Nov 2021

Why make it harder than it needs to be.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
32. "Texas has elected dem governors before"
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:50 PM
Nov 2021

The last Democratic governor of Texas left office 30 years ago.

Ann Richards January 18, 1983 – January 15, 1991

Danang1968

(18 posts)
14. Beto
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:30 PM
Nov 2021

I have lived in Texas almost my entire 75 years on this earth. Anyone who says they will confiscate guns in this state will never get elected to anything. Democrats need someone who can appeal to the majority of voters. And like it or not, the majority of Texans like guns. Period.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
18. doubtful
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:37 PM
Nov 2021

you stated: like it or not, the majority of Texans like guns. Period.

In 2021, there were just over 1 million registered firearms in Texas, which is the highest number of any state in this nation. However, Texas' population is over 29 million.

I'm not great at math, but 1 million out of 29 million is not "the majority". And we know some people own multiple guns, so the number of gun owners is probably well below 1 million.


Danang1968

(18 posts)
19. Beto
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 05:46 PM
Nov 2021

The majority of Texans do like guns even though they may not own one.

Wait and see the results of the election.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)
20. The vast majority of guns are not registered
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 06:03 PM
Nov 2021

So the 1 million number is meaningless. Last estimate of the number of guns in the US was 393 million in 2018. Its over 400 million now considering around 23 million were sold last year alone.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
28. 1 million out of 29 million is not "the majority" - that's 1 million _registered_ guns...
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:30 PM
Nov 2021

From: https://guides.sll.texas.gov/gun-laws/registration-records

The State of Texas does not maintain a registry of firearms. The federal government also does not maintain a general registry of handgun or rifle ownership. However, the National Firearms Act does require that certain types of firearms or other weapons be registered (such as short barreled shot guns, machine guns, silencers, etc.)


Most guns in Texas are UNregistered.


NickB79

(19,236 posts)
39. That registry is for legally built Class 2 and Class 3 guns
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 09:02 PM
Nov 2021

IE, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and machine guns. All can be legally owned if registered and the proper permits obtained.

So, if there are that many of these types of guns in Texas, imagine how many regular rifles, handguns and shotguns there are.

harumph

(1,898 posts)
23. add to this - a lot of Texas democrats own guns.
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 06:43 PM
Nov 2021

Anybody that sincerely thinks Beto can win after that statement has a screw loose.
A statement such as "we're coming to get your guns..." is way different than (for example)
"We need to tighten up on gun registration and training..., and penalties for misuse... etc." those statements
are worlds apart.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
31. Their panic is real whether/not he wins. They try to mock by calling him "Robert Francis"
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:47 PM
Nov 2021

instead of "Beto" to undercut the appeal to Hispanics.

They *do* know it's RFK's name?!1 So not likely to be a detriment in that demographic.

Is that all they've got?! But, yes, it shows their panic, so he must mean something to them!






Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
33. The Repubs are terrified all right
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 07:52 PM
Nov 2021

Of them winning by too huge of a margin, which would happen if Beto ran.

They need the race to look closer so they can grift their supporters for more donations.

lindalou65

(253 posts)
37. Beto
Mon Nov 22, 2021, 08:12 PM
Nov 2021

does have a fighting chance to win and I also think he is a formidable threat to the Repubs. He has made a few regrettable statements about gun control but he is not the first to do so (and won't be the last) He has a strong following and it appears he is off to a good start. So, go Beto!

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
44. I wish Beto would try for another US Representative seat.
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:32 AM
Nov 2021

I know he wants bigger but he could be a real leader in the House.
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