I have a bad feeling about Waukesha. This is an affluent, predominantly Republican

[Gaugamela]

community. I seriously hope this is not some retaliation for the Rittenhouse verdict. That would be the last thing we need.

[SoonerPride]

1. It isn't. It was a perp fleeing a stabbing crime scene

Fleeing police and into a parade.

Not intentional.

[Devil Child]

5. "Not intentional"

The dead, wounded, the reported stabbing victim and everyone but the attacker(s) involved might contest "not intentional."

[SoonerPride]

13. Watching the news now. It was a terrible accident

The person was fleeing police.

The parade was not targeted.

This isn’t terrorism or political.

[Devil Child]

15. Accident?

Terrible yes, accident no.

[SoonerPride]

16. Meaning the parade was not a target.

It’s not an intentional act of terrorism or politically motivated.

[WarGamer]

18. Again, you don't know that.

No one does.

[SoonerPride]

21. Then stop reading threads. There are nearly zero facts

We don’t know injuries or numbers of fatalities.

If you only want facts it is a one sentence story.

[Bucky]

58. People project their insecurities onto factless worries.

Of course folks will conflate Waukesha with Kenosha. Telling people to calm down and wait for real information to come in... what's the matter with you? You might as well be telling them to fly over the moon or to go read a book.

[PoliticAverse]

20. If you are fleeing from police and driving recklessly and end up crashing into something or someone

that does qualify as an accident but it is still a crime.

[SoonerPride]

22. Oh yea it's a crime for sure. Just like car crashes in high speed chases

Running lights and hitting innocent cars on the freeway.

Same thing except these band members were on foot.

And the perp went from bad to worse in a hurry.

It’s awful.

[manicdem]

60. Still murder

Crash into the scene and stop...I can see it being an accident

Continue driving over people for the entire length ..that's murder.

[PoliticAverse]

62. Whatever the final conviction or guilty plea is, it is unlikely this person will be getting out

of prison anytime in the forseable future.

[BlackSkimmer]

38. This place is so predictable.

If a trumper did this, can you even imagine?

[boston bean]

41. You don't seem to like it here very much. Very critical of it all the time.

[BlackSkimmer]

42. I dislike hypocrisy more than anything.

Do you really think posters would be joking about this if a trumper had killed a parade of black folks?

Do you?

[boston bean]

44. I didn't see any joking. I saw posts critical of Wisconsin justice system.

[BradAllison]

49. .......

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2829990

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2830019

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2830247

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16075731

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16075740

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16075744

[boston bean]

50. All commentary on the sad state of affairs in Wisconsin.

[BradAllison]

51. Cheese?

The plight of a XMas parade before Thanksgiving?

C'mon. This isn't even a "good try" in defense.

You likely didn't click half of them being your reply went up so fast.

[boston bean]

52. I think you are misreading the comments by not taking into account

the Rittenhouse verdict.

[BradAllison]

54. Shame on me

I know, cheese and the usual "war on christmas" shtick played so much into the decision. As did the plight of alcoholism in rural Wisconsin.

If you think any of that excuses the dumb jokes, I guess you aren't as sensitive or empathetic as you imagine or portray yourself.

But we have a regular bunch of 70's era Carlins here, I forget.

[boston bean]

59. Welp a Wisconsin jury found rittenhouse not guilty. So

it’s gonna be commented upon in a negative way. It wasn’t joking about dead people.

[jcmaine72]

66. Disgusting posts.

WTF is wrong with people?

[yardwork]

46. What is wrong with you?

You're all over this board making outrageous accusations. If you don't like it here, go somewhere else. It's a big internet.

[Celerity]

64. +10000000000000000

[Devil Child]

47. It is, and yes I can imagine

Since imagination exercises are all the rage as of late lets try

A white man with a violent criminal history drives his SUV into an a dance squad composed entirely of young black women.

You and I both know tolerance of jokes launched off those corpses would NOT be tolerated.

This event is a horror-show and I strongly disagree with using this tragedy as a way to smugly score points for one's cause.

Your pushback on this display is highly welcomed by me and as far as I'm concerned you are right where you need to be BlackSkimmer.

[WarGamer]

17. There's no evidence of that.

You're simply copying what an analyst was saying on CNN.

Police have NOT commented on the circumstances behind the incident.

At this point... it's all a wild ass guess.

[SoonerPride]

19. Well sure. If you only want facts then wait 24 hours

You might not want to click on threads until then.

[Diablo del sol]

27. What are you hoping for?

I believe the original response was hoping it was non political, this minimizing future violence.

[WarGamer]

28. I don't HOPE for anything.

Oh I take that back... I HOPE that people wait for the facts so we don't end up with more misinformation.

Right now... NO ONE knows. Just wait 24hrs... we'll know soon.

Some people are straight up claiming they know the circumstances/motive right NOW. That's silly.

[BlackSkimmer]

39. Thank you. nt

[dem4decades]

14. So he the dead are going to contest "not intentional"?

[PoliticAverse]

23. "criminally negligent homicide" is a thing (not sure what it is called in Wisconsin). n/t

[SoonerPride]

24. Manslaughter.

[LeftInTX]

29. I saw the video.

The driver drove through the parade at a high speed and did not even attempt to slow down afterward.

Also many states, including Wisconsin, have a statute called "Felony murder". You personally might interpret this as manslaughter, but many jurisdictions interpret this as felony murder. If the perp was committing a felony and someone dies, then it's felony murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule when an offender kills (regardless of intent to kill) in the commission of a dangerous or enumerated crime (called a felony in some jurisdictions), the offender, and also the offender's accomplices or co-conspirators, may be found guilty of murder.

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Link to tweet

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[PoliticAverse]

63. Wisconsin has a charge of "First-degree reckless homicide"...

940.02? First-degree reckless homicide.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/i/02

Whoever recklessly causes the death of another human being under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class B felony.

But I see they've charged him with first degree intentional homicide...

940.01? First-degree intentional homicide.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/i/01

[moondust]

11. +1

There could have been many, many more victims of an intentional act. Video clip shows the driver actually tried to get around the band but there wasn't enough space for the vehicle to get by.

[BlackSkimmer]

37. Oh, it's their own damn fault for not getting out of the way then, right?

[moondust]

40. No.

Attempting (and failing) to drive around the band only suggests that this was likely not a deliberate terrorist attack trying to hit as many in the crowd as possible. We've seen that kind in the 2016 Nice truck attack and the 2017 London Bridge attack.

[BlackSkimmer]

43. Why didn't he just stop?

You cannot be serious.

[moondust]

45. No.

It's possible the driver was desperately fleeing something (knife attack?, robbery?, police?, murderer?) and unfortunately some "obstacles" got in the way. Maybe delusional from heavy drugs or alcohol.

[eShirl]

35. seems pretty intentional to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/22/several-injured-after-car-speeds-through-christmas-parade-in-wisconsin-reports

In one video posted on social media, a red SUV appears to speed toward marchers, and in a second video police appear to open fire on the same vehicle as it crashes through street barriers.

Eyewitnesses estimated the car was travelling at around 40mph when it struck the crowds. The SUV “bombed through” and was “going from side to side, targeting people”, Tyler Kotlarek who was watching said, according to the New York Times.

[BlackSkimmer]

36. This guy has a long criminal record, and has multiple political screeds on his social media.

It was no accident.

[wnylib]

56. Got any links to his past record and political views?

[LeftInTX]

65. Brooks was out on bond before the crash

The charges stemmed from a November 2 incident in which Brooks is accused of running over a woman with his car while she was walking through a gas station parking lot, according to a criminal complaint.

Brooks was also charged with bail jumping, because he was already out on bail following a July 24, 2020, incident, according to court documents.

With the 2020 incident, Brooks is accused of firing a handgun during an argument, according to a charging complaint. While arresting Brooks, authorities say they found a stolen handgun and three "multicolored pills," which later tested "presumptively positive" for methamphetamines.
Brooks was charged with two counts of second-degree reckless endangering safety while using of a dangerous weapon and one count of possession of a firearm by a felon.

Brooks has an outstanding arrest warrant in Nevada in an unrelated case for which he was arrested and jumped bail, authorities said. CNN has reached out to a previous attorney for Brooks with no response.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/us/what-we-know-about-suspect-in-waukesha-parade-tragedy/index.html

Political views??? I have no idea, but he is rapper. YouTube keeps removing his videos, so this may not be for long

[lame54]

61. Very intentional...

It might have been spur if the moment but his intent was to save his sorry ass by sacrificing many innocents

[CanonRay]

2. I had the same thought.

Could trigger a lot of violence

[SoonerPride]

3. It's not.

[greenjar_01]

4. I'm sure all the posters so concerned with disinformation will be here to debunk this shortly

[Poiuyt]

6. Waukesha is very conservative, but I don't know if this was politically motivated.

[wnylib]

57. The police are saying that it

was not politically motivated.

[2naSalit]

7. It's sounding like a multicrime situation...

Maybe. Some are making speculations but nobody is really releasing any info. Stay tuned, next newsbrief @ 1pm Central tomorrow.

[d_b]

8. That's a stretch

[Gaugamela]

12. If you say so . . .

[Gaugamela]

9. Thanks, everyone. Sounds like it's not political. After the gunfire earlier I was

beginning to worry.

[Raine]

26. It was the police who did the shooting to stop the car. nt

[Sneederbunk]

10. News coverage is in the rinse and repeat mode.

Speculation is king.

[JoeOtterbein]

25. It's horrible and...

...that is all we know for sure, at this point.

[MustLoveBeagles]

30. Yes it is

I guess I can understand the OP's anxiety. So many people these days aren't right in the head.

[llashram]

31. true

I agree. America has real problems at this time because of the hate that has swept the country since 2016. Always been here. Just got weaponized under trump's administration.

[pidge]

32. I just heard they got the guy....daughter texted me.....no more info.

[luv2fly]

33. If there's even a hint that politics are involved...

You can bet the Wisconsin GQP legislature will be calling a special session just to protect the good red voters of Waukesha County.

[malaise]

34. Misplaced bad feeling

He is a common criminal

[AngryOldDem]

48. This is why I wish cable news would slow its roll when news like this breaks.

They trot out all their domestic terror, ex-FBI, and homeland security “experts” and they discuss ad nauseum every possibility for something like this happening, even before anybody knows exactly what happened. This is how conspiracy theories start.

Report it as breaking news (a meaningless term anymore, also thanks to cable news) and leave it at that for the time being.

Perp, with a long criminal record, was fleeing a knife fight. The parade was in his way. That’s it.

[LiberatedUSA]

55. They gotta fill up all that 24/7 time somehow.

[Mosby]

53. Darrell Brooks identified as Waukesha parade 'person of interest' as it's revealed he's a rapper...

Darrell Brooks identified as Waukesha parade ‘person of interest’ as it’s revealed he’s a rapper called MathBoi Fly

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4117021/darrell-brooks-wisconsin-arrested-christmas-parade/