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ashredux

(2,605 posts)
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:02 PM Nov 2021

If you are currently in a national guard unit....

If you are currently in a national guard unit, you are going to have to make some difficult decisions.

You will not be facing hippies and students protesting a foreign war. Students who might throw rocks at you. You’ll be facing insurrectionist, armed people who wish to overthrow our democracy. This will not be a Kent state. They will not be throwing rocks. They have AR-15s.

I was in the National Guard in 1970. To take action against your neighbors, even if you disagree politically, is not easy. This is different. The neighbors you will be facing want to kill you.

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If you are currently in a national guard unit.... (Original Post) ashredux Nov 2021 OP
I guess you are assuming those in the NG... ret5hd Nov 2021 #1
No, that's why they will have to make a decision. Some are, some not ashredux Nov 2021 #2
Soldiers are trained to follow orders Bobstandard Nov 2021 #3
What exactly is your suggestion with this OP? Devil Child Nov 2021 #4

ashredux

(2,605 posts)
2. No, that's why they will have to make a decision. Some are, some not
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
Nov 2021

Don’t assume all military personnel support the fascist. They do not

Bobstandard

(1,305 posts)
3. Soldiers are trained to follow orders
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:18 PM
Nov 2021

While it’s very difficult for a grunt to decide which is and which isn’t a legal order, it’s very easy to just go along. It can be life threatening, in fact, to disobey a direct order on a battlefield, whether that battlefield is in some foreign clime or your own home town. That’s the ultimate job of MP’s after all, literally to shoot down soldiers running from a fight when ordered to go forward.

One thing I find interesting is that authoritarians immediately declare gun ownership illegal as soon as they take over. Right now any yahoo can own as many guns as they want. They somehow think this gives them power to resist a police state. The reality is that their quasi militia power may help the authoritarian they support secure power, but their right to bear arms goes away the minute the Constitution is suspended. The National Guard troops they supported as they put down an illusory antifa uprising will quickly be making sure they don’t leave their homes with their guns, then probably be going door to door to take them away.


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