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Regardless of the reason, unless we can get a handle on food and energy prices, (inflation), the (Original Post) JohnSJ Nov 2021 OP
So much BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #1
I have to wonder what aspect of your haircut is being affected by Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #2
She has bills to pay so when her personal bills go up, she needs more revenue jimfields33 Nov 2021 #4
Exactly BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #6
Ok. Sorry. I was being shortsighted. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #38
Actually hair cutters had an extremely difficult time during the pandemic, and were one of the JohnSJ Nov 2021 #5
I agree BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #7
Yes it has JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
I lost BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #10
Wow. That is awful. I hope things get better for you JohnSJ Nov 2021 #13
Thanks BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #15
If you want a second career, school subs are in short supply. I got GPV Nov 2021 #42
The supply chain isn't the only factor influencing price inflation FBaggins Nov 2021 #20
The fed minimum wage is still $7.25/hr. And just because a few employers have increased ShazamIam Nov 2021 #40
This is corporate inflation...there are no shortages except those created by the business to up Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #29
I think most people know what's at stake regardless of the price of groceries Blues Heron Nov 2021 #3
It sure impacted Carter and Ford's re-election attempts. You can snark all you want, but this is a JohnSJ Nov 2021 #12
Its a tired outdated argument Blues Heron Nov 2021 #14
It isn't an argument, it is what people see when they fill there car up at the pump, and go to JohnSJ Nov 2021 #21
Ignorance of history - doomed to repeat it FBaggins Nov 2021 #22
I'm assuming you haven't turned on a TV or read a newspaper in over a year. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #31
You are incorrect. Look at the polls which reflect this. People still vote their pocket book. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #32
100%. Inflation is killing us. nt Kahuna Nov 2021 #9
Yesterday BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #11
Here In California we are approaching 5 dollars a gallon. Average is about 4.50/gallon, JohnSJ Nov 2021 #17
That's BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #18
We add a lot of tax too, but it has risen at least a buck. Unlike the 70's where OPEC caused an JohnSJ Nov 2021 #24
Thanks BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #26
I am afraid your assessment is right regarding rents in most places. In some places in California JohnSJ Nov 2021 #27
. BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #30
Lease renewals will come with sticker shock everywhere JCMach1 Nov 2021 #33
I'm BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #34
My lease is up in June. Looking into buying JCMach1 Nov 2021 #36
Good Luck BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #37
CNN really did a good report this morning the economy is booming other than doc03 Nov 2021 #16
Yes. Also what I have observed is no gas lines, which means there is adequate supply I would assume JohnSJ Nov 2021 #25
Inflation but a strong economy lindalou65 Nov 2021 #19
You are mostly right. Biden in talks with Xi was able to get China to release some of their JohnSJ Nov 2021 #23
The strategic oil reserve isn't going to make refiners House of Roberts Nov 2021 #28
that's good news lindalou65 Nov 2021 #43
It's a market, there is really no handle to get ... Price is driven by supply JCMach1 Nov 2021 #35
I think if gas prices drop, it'll help a lot. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #39
We need to quit rolling over and giving in to this treestar Nov 2021 #41
Having a robust educated understanding of why inflation is occuring Devil Child Nov 2021 #44

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
1. So much
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:27 AM
Nov 2021

So much in my parts have gone up. Even my haircut went up (for the second time in a year) last week.

Scrivener7

(51,075 posts)
2. I have to wonder what aspect of your haircut is being affected by
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:40 AM
Nov 2021

supply chain problems.

And then wonder if your haircutter is a bit of a gouger who is taking advantage of the news.

jimfields33

(16,070 posts)
4. She has bills to pay so when her personal bills go up, she needs more revenue
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:47 AM
Nov 2021

To pay household bills. The haircut just go up.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
5. Actually hair cutters had an extremely difficult time during the pandemic, and were one of the
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:49 AM
Nov 2021

businesses severely impacted by it.

Add to that the increase in energy and food, etc., it really isn’t surprising is it?

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
10. I lost
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:58 AM
Nov 2021

I lost my business. Not sure if it'll ever come back. I was a trainer/coach. During the pandemic, many people simply found other things to occupy their time and my sort of stuff was found not to be a necessity.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
15. Thanks
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:10 AM
Nov 2021

Thanks John. I have one last stab at it. I am filming what will probably be my last instructional video series next month. Let's see if the producers can market me to a new audience. I'm getting very long in the tooth for this stuff (57 years old), so it'll be a longshot.

GPV

(72,384 posts)
42. If you want a second career, school subs are in short supply. I got
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:34 AM
Nov 2021

pulled from my sped job to cover gym for the 3rd time this week.

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
20. The supply chain isn't the only factor influencing price inflation
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:23 AM
Nov 2021

Alternate reading - labor is part of the supply chain.

ShazamIam

(2,577 posts)
40. The fed minimum wage is still $7.25/hr. And just because a few employers have increased
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:26 AM
Nov 2021

their workers pay doesn't mean it has affected anything like a majority of low wage workers.

These salary and wage increase do not approach the inflation rate caused by price gouging.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/eci.nr0.htm

Demsrule86

(68,768 posts)
29. This is corporate inflation...there are no shortages except those created by the business to up
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:16 AM
Nov 2021

their profits...I have not seen huge price increases here in Ohio. I still pay between 1.69 and 1.99 for chicken breast...boneless and skinless...I buy thighs and legs at 59 cents a pound up to 99 cents for the organic ones. Meat isn't bad. I got a prime beef roast on clearance yesterday at Giant Eagle. I buy pork mostly when it goes on sale ...anywhere under 2.00 a pound. I buy flash-frozen fish (not much fresh fish in Ohio). I often get bone-in chops very cheaply. I cook most things from scratch. Thus, maybe some things went up that I am unaware of (convenience food).

But day-to-day, I don't see a difference. My bread is always pricey unless I make it myself as I can't eat gluten... This has been pretty constant too. I have not seen big increases...gas is up. I paid 3.05 at Sam's when I filled up. But I think that is gouging pure and simple. I use in-season vegetables with the exception of green beans, yellow squash, and zucchini...they are cheap at Aldi's. I also use frozen vegetables. I buy in-season fresh fruit and some canned in the winter.

Blues Heron

(5,948 posts)
3. I think most people know what's at stake regardless of the price of groceries
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 08:41 AM
Nov 2021

They know its not Biden's fault or the Democrats in general that is raising prices. This seems like an outdated take on things post Trump. It's not the 1970s anymore. Thanks for your concern though.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
12. It sure impacted Carter and Ford's re-election attempts. You can snark all you want, but this is a
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:04 AM
Nov 2021

forum for discussing things, and comments like “thank you for your concern” add very little to a useful discussion, except to imply that other views on DU that don’t align with yours iare irrelevant





Blues Heron

(5,948 posts)
14. Its a tired outdated argument
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:08 AM
Nov 2021

like I said, the post Trump, and post Covid world is definitely not analogous to the 1970s. Thanks though.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
21. It isn't an argument, it is what people see when they fill there car up at the pump, and go to
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:24 AM
Nov 2021

the grocery stores.

The consumer doesn’t care what caused the problem, they want it fixed.

As for your view that it is outdated, it is making headlines everyday, and both President Biden and Vice President Harris have been publicly acknowledging that this is a major problem that cannot be ignored.

After Biden’s call with Xi, China has released some oil from reserves hoping this will stabilize prices. OPEC made it clear they have no intention of helping. Schumer is asking the President to release our petroleum reserves in hopes this will stabilize things. Biden has asked the FTC to examine if oil companies are price fixing.

This isn’t an outdated argument, and the administration has made it very clear they have real concerns about it

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
22. Ignorance of history - doomed to repeat it
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:26 AM
Nov 2021

“But it’s different this time!” Is part of that history.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
31. I'm assuming you haven't turned on a TV or read a newspaper in over a year.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:30 AM
Nov 2021

Good for you on that but I would recommend before commenting on what the American people believe or who they'll blame that you take a second and look at how much has shifted politically for Biden and the Democrats since summer.

For starters, Biden's approval is worse today than Trump's was for a good chunk of his final year in office. Worse, as there's less time for a rebound, Democrats are losing h2h vs the Republicans, in some instances by 10+ points, when asked about midterms.

Yes, you can say you don't trust polls, which I'm sure you will, but at least it's a tangible number that suggests things are bad - unlike what you've presented as all I see is opinion backed by nothing.

Quinnipiac released a poll today that had Biden at 36% approval. Believe it - don't but those are horrific numbers for a first-year president.

Demsrule86

(68,768 posts)
32. You are incorrect. Look at the polls which reflect this. People still vote their pocket book.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:33 AM
Nov 2021

We have a tough road in the primaries. I hope all Democrats turn out...if we have any message voting or I didn't get this or that attitudes among our flock, we will lose badly. But, I do believe we can win the midterms if we stick together.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
11. Yesterday
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:03 AM
Nov 2021

Yesterday was the first time in a LONG time that I was able to get out of the house (I am a 24/7 caregiver for my mother). I stopped for a beer. Price went up .$50 a bottle for domestic.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
17. Here In California we are approaching 5 dollars a gallon. Average is about 4.50/gallon,
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:11 AM
Nov 2021

and higher energy costs affect the prices of everything

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
18. That's
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:15 AM
Nov 2021

That's about what the city of Chicago prices are. Of course the city adds a bunch of tax. I live for the last 7.5 years, about 1.5 hours out of the city. Gas here is $3.50 for regular, but it seems to fluctuate almost daily.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
24. We add a lot of tax too, but it has risen at least a buck. Unlike the 70's where OPEC caused an
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:35 AM
Nov 2021

artificial shortage and gas lines, there are no gas lines, which tells me the supply is more than adequate.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
26. Thanks
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:40 AM
Nov 2021

Thanks for the discourse.

I'd like to add this, as it will be directly affecting me shortly. The price of rents has gone astronomical here in Illinois and I would bet other places as well. I just cannot fathom what has happened. And with landlords requiring people to have 3-3.5x monthly income to rent ratio, it's frightening. The vast majority of jobs around here pay $15/hour or less. The math simply doesn't work out when the rents they are asking are $1500 and above. You have to have roommates or combined incomes somehow.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
27. I am afraid your assessment is right regarding rents in most places. In some places in California
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:54 AM
Nov 2021

we have rent control, but that is of limited value in an already high rent market. Yes, you need at least two working people to afford rent.

I know the Biden administration is aware of these problems because they have acknowledged it, I hope something can be done







BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
30. .
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:22 AM
Nov 2021

I hope something can be done as well. I just read today that in Chicago, affordable apartments via CHA (Chicago Housing Authority) has around a 25 year waiting list.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
34. I'm
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:48 AM
Nov 2021

I'm sad to read this. I will be forced to move in the spring and am going nuts trying to figure out how I can do it. As of now, my only hope is to rent a room from strangers and put my stuff in storage until things can change.

JCMach1

(27,585 posts)
36. My lease is up in June. Looking into buying
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:02 AM
Nov 2021

It may be our only option.

That also is a horrific option at moment in this market.

Even worse, schools are still a major consideration for us .

doc03

(35,431 posts)
16. CNN really did a good report this morning the economy is booming other than
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:10 AM
Nov 2021

the inflation. Un-employment down, jobs up, wages up, corporate profits up, Wall Street up,
you IRA and 401K are up. Finally the media reports the positive things.

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
25. Yes. Also what I have observed is no gas lines, which means there is adequate supply I would assume
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:36 AM
Nov 2021

lindalou65

(253 posts)
19. Inflation but a strong economy
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:20 AM
Nov 2021

Biden has no control over gas prices, etc and a Repub president would not either-----the Republicans can't fix it either and in fact will only make it worse in my opinion. People seem to have short memories..

JohnSJ

(92,492 posts)
23. You are mostly right. Biden in talks with Xi was able to get China to release some of their
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:31 AM
Nov 2021

oil reserves, and Schumer is asking Biden to release our petroleum reserves to try to stabilize the price. Biden has also asked the FTC to determine if price fixing among oil companies is going on.

There are a few other things he can do, so they are working on it.

House of Roberts

(5,192 posts)
28. The strategic oil reserve isn't going to make refiners
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:09 AM
Nov 2021

produce more oil, if it would benefit a Democrat to retain power.

People are mostly back to work, so the demand is there for vehicle fuel. That's what is making the price of fuel go up, and the price of fuel adds to all costs of things that are transported.

JCMach1

(27,585 posts)
35. It's a market, there is really no handle to get ... Price is driven by supply
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 10:59 AM
Nov 2021

Which was extremely high during the peak of pandemic. Last my May or so us began eating into excess stock of gasoline and oil reserves.

That will likely start levelling out from January from the reports I have read.

People have very short memories in this country. Release from the national reserve from driving season 2022 if prices spike again by June/July 2022.

And damn, we need to be discouraging gas guzzlers and incentivizing electrics. This shite happens every damn time.

When gas is low, people buy guzzlers.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
39. I think if gas prices drop, it'll help a lot.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:14 AM
Nov 2021

Inflation is an issue but gas prices are easily the one that grabs the attention of Americans the most.

If gas prices go down, even if inflation is still higher, I think it would be a world of difference politically.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. We need to quit rolling over and giving in to this
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:31 AM
Nov 2021

and educate people. Stay on message. There's no excuse for being ignorant. The Republicans are going to make it better? That's just stupid. People need to quit being emotional. We need to encourage them not to be, rather than just rolling over.

Further, what is happing now won't matter if things are different in Oct. 2022. That's part of the stupidity too. But quit the rolling over and giving up on 2022. We did not do that in 2016 - we started right up for 2018 and succeeded.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
44. Having a robust educated understanding of why inflation is occuring
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 11:38 AM
Nov 2021

Does little to help our household when each week we spend more to get less.

To those needing to "acktchually" others about real inflation-driven pain I say kindly fuck off unless you can kick in for our fixed income grocery needs.

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