Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:57 PM

onetexan (10,408 posts)

Forbes: Texas Gov. Abbott Leads Beto O'Rourke By Just 1 Point In Potential Matchup, Poll Suggests

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/11/01/texas-gov-abbott-leads-beto-orourke-by-just-1-point-in-potential-matchup-poll-suggests/?sh=1eb799b95515

https://www.forbes.com/video/6279810682001/new-poll-shows-bad-news-for-gov-greg-abbott-in-texas-governors-race/?sh=6cc70ca337f4

Well THIS is now setting up the TX Gov's race to be VERY INTERESTING!!!

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Forbes: Texas Gov. Abbott Leads Beto O'Rourke By Just 1 Point In Potential Matchup, Poll Suggests (Original post)	onetexan	Nov 2021	OP
These polls drive me crazy	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#1
I don't think he ever broke 50% in the polls	ColinC	Nov 2021	#3
Can you refer us to these polls? I followed that election closely	Torchlight	Nov 2021	#8
Here's a sampling	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#10
Another	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#11
And two polls lead you to assert "almost all polls"?	Torchlight	Nov 2021	#14
I'm not doing more examples. I gave you two out of many	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#21
Of course.	Torchlight	Nov 2021	#22
Glad I could help you. I take that as a thank you.	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#23
No. Not really.	Torchlight	Nov 2021	#24
Says you. Please just be appreciative of the hard work I did for you.	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#25
Anecdotal evidence is not data	Torchlight	Nov 2021	#26
I'm keeping my expectations low.	BannonsLiver	Nov 2021	#12
Sadly you are right. Frustrating.	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#13
Most polls did not show this. In fact, Beto outperformed the polls.	Drunken Irishman	Nov 2021	#28
False.	Elessar Zappa	Nov 2021	#29
Despite the gun thing, I do think O Rourke will do the best against Abbott	ColinC	Nov 2021	#2
I agree	In It to Win It	Nov 2021	#4
+1 K&R	onetexan	Nov 2021	#6
Go Beto!!!	pandr32	Nov 2021	#5
This would certainly be payback for Virginia :-)	Metaphorical	Nov 2021	#7
Voting Rights Act has to pass	JustAnotherGen	Nov 2021	#9
Last week Abbott was ahead by 8, and I thought...	ananda	Nov 2021	#15
mcconaughey has no governing experience, not to mention he was a conservative	onetexan	Nov 2021	#16
McConaughey would run as a narcissist who knows nothing about politics	jcgoldie	Nov 2021	#17
Neither McConoughey nor Beto are running at this time.	LeftInTX	Nov 2021	#18
edited	jcgoldie	Nov 2021	#19
I'm just saying McC would be better than Abbott.	ananda	Nov 2021	#27
Beto is not running yet...	LeftInTX	Nov 2021	#20
Based on my liking of the result, I find this poll to be credible!	tritsofme	Nov 2021	#30

Response to onetexan (Original post)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:58 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

1. These polls drive me crazy

I was sure Beto was going to win against cruz. All the polls showed it. But alas not even that close.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:01 PM

ColinC (5,326 posts)

3. I don't think he ever broke 50% in the polls

But still came within 2% on election day. He did better than any Democrat was expected to do. And the same will happen with Abbott. Doesn't mean he will win, but he is reminding the republican party that they don't alhave a free pass in Texas anymore.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:55 PM

Torchlight (1,053 posts)

8. Can you refer us to these polls? I followed that election closely

and never saw any polling data that showed O'Rourke in front, let alone to the amount that "all polls showed it".

Thanks in advance!

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 02:20 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

10. Here's a sampling

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/2018/09/19/304748/one-poll-shows-cruz-beating-orourke-and-another-indicates-the-democrat-would-win/amp/

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 02:22 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

11. Another

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2018/09/19/beto-orourke-leads-cruz-new-poll-texas-senate-race/amp/

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 02:36 PM

Torchlight (1,053 posts)

14. And two polls lead you to assert "almost all polls"?

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:32 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

21. I'm not doing more examples. I gave you two out of many

Google is very easy. I did the work for you. But you can take over and find others.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:34 PM

Torchlight (1,053 posts)

22. Of course.

'almost all'

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:36 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

23. Glad I could help you. I take that as a thank you.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:36 PM

Torchlight (1,053 posts)

24. No. Not really.

The phrase 'almost all' was never given any substantiation, so until given any, I'll see it as an empty assertion.

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:38 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

25. Says you. Please just be appreciative of the hard work I did for you.

Appreciation goes a long way. Have a great day! I feel freaking great helping out a fellow DUer. You made my day!

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 03:43 PM

Torchlight (1,053 posts)

26. Anecdotal evidence is not data

But to save time, I'll go with your insistence 'almost all polls' said O'Rourke was ahead as just another thing someone says.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 02:24 PM

BannonsLiver (13,633 posts)

12. I'm keeping my expectations low.

Not because of any past polling but because it’s Texas and there’s still more than enough Trump style knuckle draggers there to give Abbott the win.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 02:25 PM

jimfields33 (9,469 posts)

13. Sadly you are right. Frustrating.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 04:33 PM

Drunken Irishman (34,857 posts)

28. Most polls did not show this. In fact, Beto outperformed the polls.

The final average had him losing by seven. He lost by just three:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/tx/texas_senate_cruz_vs_orourke-6310.html

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 04:35 PM

Elessar Zappa (8,327 posts)

29. False.

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Response to onetexan (Original post)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 12:59 PM

ColinC (5,326 posts)

2. Despite the gun thing, I do think O Rourke will do the best against Abbott

Than any democrat against any sitting republican in the last few decades. I don't know that he would win, but he would certainly do very well.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:06 PM

In It to Win It (2,751 posts)

4. I agree

I hope that he can gin the same energy that his 2018 campaign did. Ted Cruz barely eeked out that victory.

Beto made his campaign about Texas, and he didn't need to bring up Trump at all. His opponent was the boogeyman. That's the kinda campaign we need. It's still gonna be an uphill battle but Beto's the best shot.

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Response to In It to Win It (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 8, 2021, 01:22 PM

onetexan (10,408 posts)