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Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:26 PM

I hate raygun

All this distrust of government to deliver solutions such as the vaccine can all be traced to that asshole. Our collapse of working together as a society is a result of his extreme partisanship. He brought the nutcase evangelicals in and his overt racism has divided America. God I hate him. I just wish some historian would point out his true legacy as opposed to the crap we have to endure every day.

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Reply I hate raygun (Original post)
Casady1 Oct 2021 OP
hlthe2b Oct 2021 #1
multigraincracker Oct 2021 #2
Faux pas Oct 2021 #3
Scottie Mom Oct 2021 #34
Faux pas Oct 2021 #42
Scottie Mom Oct 2021 #43
Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #4
Baked Potato Oct 2021 #9
Snackshack Oct 2021 #40
MenloParque Oct 2021 #5
musette_sf Oct 2021 #6
Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #13
kimbutgar Oct 2021 #26
Baked Potato Oct 2021 #7
rickyhall Oct 2021 #8
TreasonousBastard Oct 2021 #10
Hoyt Oct 2021 #11
11 Bravo Oct 2021 #12
housecat Oct 2021 #32
Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 #14
UpInArms Oct 2021 #15
LW1977 Oct 2021 #16
SeattleVet Oct 2021 #17
jalan48 Oct 2021 #18
DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #20
jalan48 Oct 2021 #25
MichMan Oct 2021 #19
Skittles Oct 2021 #21
PXR-5 Oct 2021 #22
AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #23
Codifer Oct 2021 #24
Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #27
NJCher Oct 2021 #28
SergeStorms Oct 2021 #29
Tikki Oct 2021 #30
Sibelius Fan Oct 2021 #31
Celerity Oct 2021 #37
brooklynite Oct 2021 #33
Celerity Oct 2021 #39
overleft Oct 2021 #35
tiredtoo Oct 2021 #36
johnp3907 Oct 2021 #38
BidenRocks Oct 2021 #41

Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:31 PM

1. Yes. But ironically so too do all the current Trumpist R's

Somehow I think we can stop worrying about the irritating past trend of trying to name everything after the "gipper."

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:32 PM

2. My dad went to OCS with him.

He hated him too.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:35 PM

3. Me too

I survived him when he when ruined Cali when he was the gov. He was the beginning of our end.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:09 PM

34. Yep. I remember when he fucked up the UC system.

I was there and pissed!😡

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Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #34)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 09:11 PM

42. Yep

and closed the mental institutions and dumped the people on the streets

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #42)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 09:22 PM

43. Ronnie Raygun was a bully.

Took on those least able to fight back.

Gawd, I hated him. Matter of fact, I still hate him.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:36 PM

4. Funny thing about the "government is the problem" people

is now that we are in the middle of a supply chain crisis, which was entirely created by free markets and private enterprise, they are screaming for the government to fix it.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:48 PM

9. Yeah, good point. Where is that private biz solution? Nt

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:40 PM

40. It's always been that way.

The hypocrisy is so thick it needs its own supports. As President Obama pointed out once. No business owners or entrepreneur or founding ceo etc ever created anything on their own from the “ground up” with their “own two hands”. They relied on the infrastructure to be successful from transporting their product to the energy to make their product to the means to broadcast their product. Then anytime one of these areas gets a hit from an earthquake or hurricane or their own mismanagement they to fix it or bail them out.

Went off on a tangent rt here…

Listening to phuking manchin talk about how he doesn’t want an entitlement society made me want to throw my phone as far as I could (it’s not my phones fault so I didn’t). That AH who has been sucking up every entitlement he can working in government for the last 40yrs, lives on a yacht in the harbor by DC. Who’s family has benefited enormously off government give aways to energy companies and pharmaceuticals. The Dems need to boot him and sinema to the curb for the BS and damage they have done. If they want to switch and be under trumps thumb so be it. They already have. It will get the filibuster out of the way. PB can veto everything and work work work to make 2022 midterms a success.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:39 PM

5. My anti-gov,gunhumping co-workers hate him also. Reagan allowed for the assault weapon ban.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:41 PM

6. I've hated him since 1975

and have fruitlessly tried to point out his (or, should I say, his bitter ex-Nixonian handlers') true legacy since then.

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Response to musette_sf (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:55 PM

13. If you lived in California at the time,

you would have hated him in 1966. His governorship was a real horror show and still affects us today.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:14 PM

26. My Father absolutely hated Reagan

He started the groundwork to make our public colleges more expensive and closed the mental institutions.

When I told my Dad I thought about voting for Reagan after hearing him announce his run for the President he said I’ve have to move out of his house if I voted for him. Then he told me about how he wrecked California and tried to destroy unions also. That was it for me. My Dad used to say, dirty stinkin lousy Republicans whenever he saw Nixon, Reagan and every other Republican while was alive. I’m glad he never lived to see the current evil incarnation of today’s American Taliban. he would have stroked out in anger.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:46 PM

7. He paved the golden road to the House of Greed.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:47 PM

8. I've hated him since 1981 when he cut off my college money ended my future as I had planned it.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:49 PM

10. Never really believed he was the source of the problem, but...

he was the food that let the problem grow to immense proportions

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:50 PM

11. Sadly, we've had time to reverse all that, but haven't for some reason.

 

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:52 PM

12. The GOP moved on from an amiable dunce to a malevolent shitstain.

Reagan made it possible.
Fuck him.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:52 PM

32. nicely put

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:56 PM

14. I hated him at the time

Smarmy bastard. Never have seen any reason to stop.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 04:59 PM

15. Was talking about him yesterday ....

The first thing he did was to take the solar panels from the roof of the White House … and discontinue the tax credits for wind power …

and these freaks of nature act like no one ever tried to get ahead of global warming …

I am so angry

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:12 PM

16. K&R to that.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:13 PM

17. He's one of the reasons I left the Air Force after 12 years instead of going for 20 and retirement.

I got out in 1984. I could not see myself working for that S.O.B. for any more time.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:19 PM

18. He was truly an "acting" President. I believe Bush Sr. was in charge most of the time.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:46 PM

20. Bingo

the ones running everything were Cheney/Rumsfeld/Pearle/Wolfowitz etc for all eight years. Several got pardons for their crimes by HWBush, then he brought them all into his admin for his four years.

Then, the powers to be in the Republican Party got W appointed and the same crew came in to his administration for eight more years......

The major common threads for twenty years after Nixon were Cheney/HW Bush/Rumsfeld, etc.....
The damage they did was irreparable and prepared them to open the doors for Trump/Oconnell to come in for the final trashing of the middle class, the economy, Democracy, and the Rule of Law. AND the Repubs allowed Putin to provide needed actions to help......

WASF

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:08 PM

25. Reagan was there to remind people of the good old days before the 60's . Many American's wanted

to go backward instead of forward. Vietnam and Civil Rights were washed away by the empty headed actor who was good at delivering his lines.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:36 PM

19. He had a Democratic House for his entire term

Why did they go along with so much of it?

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:53 PM

21. Reagan made ignorance and greed fashionable

it was sickening how many Americans fell for his con

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:54 PM

22. I hated him also!

Many folks just saw right through his dangerous BS! In fact this made him more dangerous than Cheeto.

If it wasn't for him I could get my full Social Security right now. I remember when he changed SS, all my co-workers were for it, wonder what they think now.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:57 PM

23. started long before him. my sis hated him as he tried to destroy screen actores guild.

screen actors guild was meant to be for every one and he wanted to make it into an elitests click. took ed asner years to bring it back
when he was gov of ca , he destroyed it so bad that it took 20 years to recover .

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:07 PM

24. He was an actor.

He was hired to play a role and help clear a path to fascism.

He was a poor actor, and the role was badly written.

Plus his signature is on my UC diploma... go figure, he really hated the UC system.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:14 PM

27. Ronnie was the Figurehead used to distract and to put out the Propaganda.

The real evil was built by others with money and an agenda.

They are still at it today. We know a few of the names: Mercer, DeVos, & Koch among so many more. They built the machine that elevated and selected Trump, and when he lost spread the Big Lie to every GOP State legislature, and every RW propaganda outlet (OAN, FOX News, Newsmax et al).

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:19 PM

28. I think a lot of people do realize how damaging he was

My brother remembers that time when he couldn't "buy a job." I recall he had to take a night job, which he hated. It was in his field, but if you're not cut out for working nights, it really messes with your life.

Reagan is #1 on the RG's hate list.

And let's not forget that Reagan was a traitor when he made a secret arrangement with the Iranian government to free the hostages as soon as he became president. Robert Parry reported on this:

Two decades ago, ex-Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir offered the stunning confirmation that “of course” an October Surprise plot had blocked President Jimmy Carter from gaining the release of 52 U.S. hostages in Iran, thus helping Ronald Reagan win the presidency in 1980, reports Robert Parry.

https://consortiumnews.com/2012/07/03/shamirs-october-surprise-admission/

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:23 PM

29. The end of the "Fairness Doctrine"....

paved the way for the propaganda necessary to brainwash the ignorant masses into overt racial hatred, hatred of Democrats, hatred of government, hatred, hatred, hatred.

The reich-wing money men bought up every failing AM radio station in the country, and they found a fat, racist, loudmouth piece of crap to scream into a microphone for four hours each day, about how bad Americans had it, and the immigrants who were the cause of it all. 😳

"Excellence in Broadcasting" they called it. This brought out every local wannabe propagandist who filled the remainder of the broadcasting day. They became local heroes of the newly formed reich-wing radio warriors, and soon the entire country was saturated with hate.

Things regressed from there, and "the rest is history", so they say, until they found yet another fat, racist loudmouth piece of crap to run for president. History is being written, and re-written, as we sit.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:34 PM

30. Will now and always have called raygun A King-Sized Asshole.

He bent over a took it from corporations and helped steal from the poor and working class and hid behind a holier than thou facade.
I was there, I will never FORGET.

Tikki

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:51 PM

31. I'm no fan of Reagan, but both sides misquote him.

The FULL quote is the following:

“In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

“In this present crisis.” That’s very specific. Reagan did not say the government is always the problem, despite the fact that both sides like to think that’s what he said. He said “in this present crisis.”

Words matter.

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Response to Sibelius Fan (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:21 PM

37. "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here

here to help. "

https://www.reaganfoundation.org/ronald-reagan/reagan-quotes-speeches/news-conference-1/

AUGUST 12, 1986

REAGAN QUOTES AND SPEECHES

NEWS CONFERENCE

During this News Conference, President Ronald Reagan refers to how the government tends to be inefficient, to such a degree that instead of helping, it often causes harm instead. This view expresses the need for a more diminutive form of government where an individual or organization can complete an activity more effectively than the whole government.


A few key points are:

Government creates unpredictability due to constantly changing policies.
The government’s goals sometimes don't align with the nation’s goals.

With this ideology, he wanted to create and organize a government of the right size for its people, where both could work in harmony to overcome the crisis.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:58 PM

33. He wouldn't have had a platform for that argument if Democrats had done better in the 70s...

Nixon got into office because a bunch of liberals decided that there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans in 1968 (sound familiar?) and McGovern was a terrible candidate to run a national campaign in 1972. Six years lost, and huge inflation and geo-political problems left for Carter.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:32 PM

39. Erm, Bobby Kennedy being shot in 1968. That was the inflection point.

He would have defeated Nixon.

1972 was like 1964, basically zero chance for the incumbent to lose. McGovern and Goldwater were disposal sacrificial lambs. Due to their ideological backgrounds being so divergent from their opponents, I feel that too much emphasis is place there.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:12 PM

35. Worst president ever. His BS resulted in the mess we have now.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:17 PM

36. Raygun is not alone

Nixon made healthcare a for profit activity. But yes Raygun may be the worst. He also eliminated the fairness doctrine bringing us faux noise and all the hate radio programs. ugh have to watch my blood pressure.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:23 PM

38. I LOVE Raygun!

And I’m in this video! (Along with lots of other people)

https://m.&vidve=5727&autoplay=1

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:45 PM

41. What if Pres. Biden had a

Khobar Towers

Let's cut the crap!!!

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