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Casady1

(2,133 posts)
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:26 PM Oct 2021

I hate raygun

All this distrust of government to deliver solutions such as the vaccine can all be traced to that asshole. Our collapse of working together as a society is a result of his extreme partisanship. He brought the nutcase evangelicals in and his overt racism has divided America. God I hate him. I just wish some historian would point out his true legacy as opposed to the crap we have to endure every day.

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I hate raygun (Original Post) Casady1 Oct 2021 OP
Yes. But ironically so too do all the current Trumpist R's hlthe2b Oct 2021 #1
My dad went to OCS with him. multigraincracker Oct 2021 #2
Me too Faux pas Oct 2021 #3
Yep. I remember when he fucked up the UC system. Scottie Mom Oct 2021 #34
Yep Faux pas Oct 2021 #42
Ronnie Raygun was a bully. Scottie Mom Oct 2021 #43
Funny thing about the "government is the problem" people Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #4
Yeah, good point. Where is that private biz solution? Nt Baked Potato Oct 2021 #9
It's always been that way. Snackshack Oct 2021 #40
My anti-gov,gunhumping co-workers hate him also. Reagan allowed for the assault weapon ban. MenloParque Oct 2021 #5
I've hated him since 1975 musette_sf Oct 2021 #6
If you lived in California at the time, Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #13
My Father absolutely hated Reagan kimbutgar Oct 2021 #26
He paved the golden road to the House of Greed. Baked Potato Oct 2021 #7
I've hated him since 1981 when he cut off my college money ended my future as I had planned it. rickyhall Oct 2021 #8
Never really believed he was the source of the problem, but... TreasonousBastard Oct 2021 #10
Sadly, we've had time to reverse all that, but haven't for some reason. Hoyt Oct 2021 #11
The GOP moved on from an amiable dunce to a malevolent shitstain. 11 Bravo Oct 2021 #12
nicely put housecat Oct 2021 #32
I hated him at the time Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 #14
Was talking about him yesterday .... UpInArms Oct 2021 #15
K&R to that. LW1977 Oct 2021 #16
He's one of the reasons I left the Air Force after 12 years instead of going for 20 and retirement. SeattleVet Oct 2021 #17
He was truly an "acting" President. I believe Bush Sr. was in charge most of the time. jalan48 Oct 2021 #18
Bingo DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #20
Reagan was there to remind people of the good old days before the 60's . Many American's wanted jalan48 Oct 2021 #25
He had a Democratic House for his entire term MichMan Oct 2021 #19
Reagan made ignorance and greed fashionable Skittles Oct 2021 #21
I hated him also! PXR-5 Oct 2021 #22
started long before him. my sis hated him as he tried to destroy screen actores guild. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #23
He was an actor. Codifer Oct 2021 #24
Ronnie was the Figurehead used to distract and to put out the Propaganda. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #27
I think a lot of people do realize how damaging he was NJCher Oct 2021 #28
The end of the "Fairness Doctrine".... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #29
Will now and always have called raygun A King-Sized Asshole. Tikki Oct 2021 #30
I'm no fan of Reagan, but both sides misquote him. Sibelius Fan Oct 2021 #31
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here Celerity Oct 2021 #37
He wouldn't have had a platform for that argument if Democrats had done better in the 70s... brooklynite Oct 2021 #33
Erm, Bobby Kennedy being shot in 1968. That was the inflection point. Celerity Oct 2021 #39
Worst president ever. His BS resulted in the mess we have now. overleft Oct 2021 #35
Raygun is not alone tiredtoo Oct 2021 #36
I LOVE Raygun! johnp3907 Oct 2021 #38
What if Pres. Biden had a BidenRocks Oct 2021 #41

hlthe2b

(103,319 posts)
1. Yes. But ironically so too do all the current Trumpist R's
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:31 PM
Oct 2021

Somehow I think we can stop worrying about the irritating past trend of trying to name everything after the "gipper."

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
43. Ronnie Raygun was a bully.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:22 PM
Oct 2021

Took on those least able to fight back.

Gawd, I hated him. Matter of fact, I still hate him.

Mr.Bill

(24,454 posts)
4. Funny thing about the "government is the problem" people
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:36 PM
Oct 2021

is now that we are in the middle of a supply chain crisis, which was entirely created by free markets and private enterprise, they are screaming for the government to fix it.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
40. It's always been that way.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:40 PM
Oct 2021

The hypocrisy is so thick it needs its own supports. As President Obama pointed out once. No business owners or entrepreneur or founding ceo etc ever created anything on their own from the “ground up” with their “own two hands”. They relied on the infrastructure to be successful from transporting their product to the energy to make their product to the means to broadcast their product. Then anytime one of these areas gets a hit from an earthquake or hurricane or their own mismanagement they to fix it or bail them out.

Went off on a tangent rt here…

Listening to phuking manchin talk about how he doesn’t want an entitlement society made me want to throw my phone as far as I could (it’s not my phones fault so I didn’t). That AH who has been sucking up every entitlement he can working in government for the last 40yrs, lives on a yacht in the harbor by DC. Who’s family has benefited enormously off government give aways to energy companies and pharmaceuticals. The Dems need to boot him and sinema to the curb for the BS and damage they have done. If they want to switch and be under trumps thumb so be it. They already have. It will get the filibuster out of the way. PB can veto everything and work work work to make 2022 midterms a success.

musette_sf

(10,234 posts)
6. I've hated him since 1975
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:41 PM
Oct 2021

and have fruitlessly tried to point out his (or, should I say, his bitter ex-Nixonian handlers') true legacy since then.

Mr.Bill

(24,454 posts)
13. If you lived in California at the time,
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:55 PM
Oct 2021

you would have hated him in 1966. His governorship was a real horror show and still affects us today.

kimbutgar

(21,808 posts)
26. My Father absolutely hated Reagan
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

He started the groundwork to make our public colleges more expensive and closed the mental institutions.

When I told my Dad I thought about voting for Reagan after hearing him announce his run for the President he said I’ve have to move out of his house if I voted for him. Then he told me about how he wrecked California and tried to destroy unions also. That was it for me. My Dad used to say, dirty stinkin lousy Republicans whenever he saw Nixon, Reagan and every other Republican while was alive. I’m glad he never lived to see the current evil incarnation of today’s American Taliban. he would have stroked out in anger.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. Never really believed he was the source of the problem, but...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:49 PM
Oct 2021

he was the food that let the problem grow to immense proportions

11 Bravo

(23,959 posts)
12. The GOP moved on from an amiable dunce to a malevolent shitstain.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:52 PM
Oct 2021

Reagan made it possible.
Fuck him.

UpInArms

(51,341 posts)
15. Was talking about him yesterday ....
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

The first thing he did was to take the solar panels from the roof of the White House … and discontinue the tax credits for wind power …

and these freaks of nature act like no one ever tried to get ahead of global warming …

I am so angry

SeattleVet

(5,508 posts)
17. He's one of the reasons I left the Air Force after 12 years instead of going for 20 and retirement.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:13 PM
Oct 2021

I got out in 1984. I could not see myself working for that S.O.B. for any more time.

DENVERPOPS

(9,254 posts)
20. Bingo
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:46 PM
Oct 2021

the ones running everything were Cheney/Rumsfeld/Pearle/Wolfowitz etc for all eight years. Several got pardons for their crimes by HWBush, then he brought them all into his admin for his four years.

Then, the powers to be in the Republican Party got W appointed and the same crew came in to his administration for eight more years......

The major common threads for twenty years after Nixon were Cheney/HW Bush/Rumsfeld, etc.....
The damage they did was irreparable and prepared them to open the doors for Trump/Oconnell to come in for the final trashing of the middle class, the economy, Democracy, and the Rule of Law. AND the Repubs allowed Putin to provide needed actions to help......

WASF

jalan48

(14,029 posts)
25. Reagan was there to remind people of the good old days before the 60's . Many American's wanted
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:08 PM
Oct 2021

to go backward instead of forward. Vietnam and Civil Rights were washed away by the empty headed actor who was good at delivering his lines.

PXR-5

(522 posts)
22. I hated him also!
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:54 PM
Oct 2021

Many folks just saw right through his dangerous BS! In fact this made him more dangerous than Cheeto.

If it wasn't for him I could get my full Social Security right now. I remember when he changed SS, all my co-workers were for it, wonder what they think now.

AllaN01Bear

(20,710 posts)
23. started long before him. my sis hated him as he tried to destroy screen actores guild.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:57 PM
Oct 2021

screen actors guild was meant to be for every one and he wanted to make it into an elitests click. took ed asner years to bring it back
when he was gov of ca , he destroyed it so bad that it took 20 years to recover .

Codifer

(586 posts)
24. He was an actor.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:07 PM
Oct 2021

He was hired to play a role and help clear a path to fascism.

He was a poor actor, and the role was badly written.

Plus his signature is on my UC diploma... go figure, he really hated the UC system.

Ford_Prefect

(8,097 posts)
27. Ronnie was the Figurehead used to distract and to put out the Propaganda.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

The real evil was built by others with money and an agenda.

They are still at it today. We know a few of the names: Mercer, DeVos, & Koch among so many more. They built the machine that elevated and selected Trump, and when he lost spread the Big Lie to every GOP State legislature, and every RW propaganda outlet (OAN, FOX News, Newsmax et al).

NJCher

(36,448 posts)
28. I think a lot of people do realize how damaging he was
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:19 PM
Oct 2021

My brother remembers that time when he couldn't "buy a job." I recall he had to take a night job, which he hated. It was in his field, but if you're not cut out for working nights, it really messes with your life.

Reagan is #1 on the RG's hate list.

And let's not forget that Reagan was a traitor when he made a secret arrangement with the Iranian government to free the hostages as soon as he became president. Robert Parry reported on this:

Two decades ago, ex-Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir offered the stunning confirmation that “of course” an October Surprise plot had blocked President Jimmy Carter from gaining the release of 52 U.S. hostages in Iran, thus helping Ronald Reagan win the presidency in 1980, reports Robert Parry.

https://consortiumnews.com/2012/07/03/shamirs-october-surprise-admission/

SergeStorms

(19,222 posts)
29. The end of the "Fairness Doctrine"....
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:23 PM
Oct 2021

paved the way for the propaganda necessary to brainwash the ignorant masses into overt racial hatred, hatred of Democrats, hatred of government, hatred, hatred, hatred.

The reich-wing money men bought up every failing AM radio station in the country, and they found a fat, racist, loudmouth piece of crap to scream into a microphone for four hours each day, about how bad Americans had it, and the immigrants who were the cause of it all. 😳

"Excellence in Broadcasting" they called it. This brought out every local wannabe propagandist who filled the remainder of the broadcasting day. They became local heroes of the newly formed reich-wing radio warriors, and soon the entire country was saturated with hate.

Things regressed from there, and "the rest is history", so they say, until they found yet another fat, racist loudmouth piece of crap to run for president. History is being written, and re-written, as we sit.

Tikki

(14,608 posts)
30. Will now and always have called raygun A King-Sized Asshole.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:34 PM
Oct 2021

He bent over a took it from corporations and helped steal from the poor and working class and hid behind a holier than thou facade.
I was there, I will never FORGET.

Tikki

Sibelius Fan

(24,467 posts)
31. I'm no fan of Reagan, but both sides misquote him.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:51 PM
Oct 2021

The FULL quote is the following:

“In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

“In this present crisis.” That’s very specific. Reagan did not say the government is always the problem, despite the fact that both sides like to think that’s what he said. He said “in this present crisis.”

Words matter.

Celerity

(45,139 posts)
37. "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:21 PM
Oct 2021
here to help. "

https://www.reaganfoundation.org/ronald-reagan/reagan-quotes-speeches/news-conference-1/

AUGUST 12, 1986

REAGAN QUOTES AND SPEECHES

NEWS CONFERENCE

During this News Conference, President Ronald Reagan refers to how the government tends to be inefficient, to such a degree that instead of helping, it often causes harm instead. This view expresses the need for a more diminutive form of government where an individual or organization can complete an activity more effectively than the whole government.


A few key points are:

Government creates unpredictability due to constantly changing policies.
The government’s goals sometimes don't align with the nation’s goals.

With this ideology, he wanted to create and organize a government of the right size for its people, where both could work in harmony to overcome the crisis.

brooklynite

(96,526 posts)
33. He wouldn't have had a platform for that argument if Democrats had done better in the 70s...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:58 PM
Oct 2021

Nixon got into office because a bunch of liberals decided that there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans in 1968 (sound familiar?) and McGovern was a terrible candidate to run a national campaign in 1972. Six years lost, and huge inflation and geo-political problems left for Carter.

Celerity

(45,139 posts)
39. Erm, Bobby Kennedy being shot in 1968. That was the inflection point.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:32 PM
Oct 2021

He would have defeated Nixon.

1972 was like 1964, basically zero chance for the incumbent to lose. McGovern and Goldwater were disposal sacrificial lambs. Due to their ideological backgrounds being so divergent from their opponents, I feel that too much emphasis is place there.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
36. Raygun is not alone
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:17 PM
Oct 2021

Nixon made healthcare a for profit activity. But yes Raygun may be the worst. He also eliminated the fairness doctrine bringing us faux noise and all the hate radio programs. ugh have to watch my blood pressure.

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