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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is Merrick Garland doing to help save our country?
Have the Republicans taken him hostage?
Have the MAGAs kidnapped him and replaced him with an AI replica?
Does Putin have something on him?
Actually, I don't believe any of those scenarios. Garland has always been a dedicated professional who fervently believes in the Constitution. This is a man who has always stood for and defended the best concepts of America.
So what's he doing to protect America right now? I don't know. But if I had to guess, I believe he's intentionally keeping, whatever it is he's up to, out of public view.
Why the silence? Here's my opinion. When you're trying to gather evidence to indict a former United States president, it's not something you're going to announce. Were he to do so, the alphabet of wingnut organizations would be running amok in the streets. Therefore, saying nothing is the wisest thing to do.
Maybe a bit more trust in Garland is needed. I know this won't stop the bitching, but I'm more than willing to be patient and give him more time.
And let me repeat the important idea in this post: When you're going after TFG, you don't announce it.
Budi
(15,325 posts)I can wait a while for that ...
OLDMDDEM
(1,997 posts)we can do it
(12,730 posts)ShazzieB
(18,372 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(153,634 posts)Ethically Garland cannot make press releases just to make some people happy. The DOJ is doing a great deal. I was amazed at how fast the DOJ announced that executive privilege would not be available to former white house staff with respect to the 1/6 investigation
Eyeball_Kid
(7,557 posts)Garland stated yesterday that the FBI is looking into the events of 1/6. While saying little else, he stated what many were wanting to hear. And dealing with DOJ silence on the matter has been maddening. Basically, the FBI is gathering evidence, and that's the minimum Garland has said. So many of us, myself included, have grown deeply skeptical of the DOJ and Garland because of the extended silence regarding anything indirectly associated with Trump. But now, we at least know of the FBI's direction, and that helps.
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NewHendoLib
(60,404 posts)Sorry for the knee jerk.
johnp3907
(3,850 posts)ShazzieB
(18,372 posts)I read the subject line and the first few (1 sentence) paragraphs, said, "Oh, great, another Garland bashing post," and moved on. I'd bet serious money a lot of other people did the same, and I think it's perfectly understandable.
Should I have read a little farther? Ideally, yes. But I was disgusted by what I had already read and not interested in reading YET ANOTHER Garland bashing post, so I stopped. I now regret having done so, but I certainly don't blame anyone else for doing the same thing. There have been way too many posts here accusing the man of not doing his job, written by people who in actuality have no idea what he's doing or not doing, and I'm frankly sick of it.
If I were the o.p., I'd add a note at the top of the post, alerting people to the fact that it's actually not a Garland bashing post. Just a thought.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(114,108 posts)Cyrano
(15,282 posts)Response to Cyrano (Reply #8)
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Fiendish Thingy
(17,885 posts)In the mail due to DeJoys shenanigans.
I got mine last week, and boy, has Garland been busy, lots stuff coming down the pipeline
In the meantime, checkout emptywheel.net for updates and analysis of January 6 prosecutions and more.
Joinfortmill
(16,146 posts)[
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Multiple judges have now complained that DOJ's prosecutors are under-charging the perps, and recommending unreasonably lenient sentencing.
The part we can see in public is pretty discouraging.
maxsolomon
(34,876 posts)The instigators, who will be harder to convict, deserve harsher sentences.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And for bargaining power as we (theoretically) go up the food chain.
Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)maxsolomon
(34,876 posts)Perhaps prosecutors are trading lighter sentence recommendations for guilty pleas...
Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)clearing their in-boxes.
poli-junkie
(1,108 posts)the FBI is investigating the seditionist Steve Bannon that guy creeps me out
Joinfortmill
(16,146 posts)agingdem
(8,503 posts)Garland is quiet and judicious, and the right man for the job..I want revenge.. that's what it is...as much as anyone but right now I want his resources directed at voting rights/voter suppression, the abortion issue, and malignant racism...and when Garland is ready to reveal the Justice Department's meticulously documented and investigated Trump accountability plan it won't be with a bullhorn, it will be with subpoenas...
Cyrano
(15,282 posts)Regarding all the other critical issues, voter rights/suppression, abortion, institutional racism, and so, so much more, yeah, I too want to see him address them. I also want to see him walk on water.
agingdem
(8,503 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 5, 2021, 03:51 PM - Edit history (1)
Trump and his family tried and convicted is justice and revenge...Trump had four very long murderous years to dismantle democracy...Garland's been in the job since March...
Marius25
(3,213 posts)the insurrection seriously. They're being chastised by Judges for giving insurrectionists slaps on the wrist.
I'm not convinced Garland takes this threat seriously enough.
bucolic_frolic
(46,412 posts)You don't want tainted juries letting some off, while others are convicted. So you make the plea deals light so they will be accepted. It also helps heal. You don't want martyrs, and you don't want to embitter the rioters lest they rebound. Slow as it seems, this speeds up the whole process. As you move up the chain of command it will be more competitive. You must go at the source. There were no masterminds in the insurrection shock troops. The planners were safely protected so they could take power if it succeeded.
Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)Fix The Stupid
(958 posts)If there were secret investigations going on, like everyone here says is happening, how would those already being investigated be able to keep it quiet?
If he went after one of these douches, wouldn't said douche just go on fox and say "witchhunt, the left is after me, gov't tyranny, etc, etc", to rile up their base and the right wing noise machine?
I can see how the intent would be to keep everything hush-hush, but I can't see how those being 'secretly' investigated would or could remain quiet.
Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)(But that's a very logical observation.)
Bluethroughu
(5,628 posts)Who knows where this is going, but we all factually know who put together and gave aid to the "save murica" rally, and who incited and directed those rubes where to go and what to do. It's on tape.
The ones in the back ground are the ones that will be interesting. All are treasonous scum.
Bluethroughu
(5,628 posts)Elected members of Congress, members of police, military and some interest of a sitting Supreme Court Justice's wife.
He is tasked with saving World Democracy from these grifting terrorists.
We fall, we take Democracy with us.
Our military resources in the wrong hands, keeps the rest of the world up at night.
Cyrano
(15,282 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,146 posts)ecstatic
(34,197 posts)A serious crime has been committed and the victims/witnesses are in the dark about what--if anything--will ever be done about it. I'm sure there's a healthy middle ground between spilling his entire playbook and leaving millions of Americans feeling panicked, like the country is on the brink of collapse.
Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)Pepsidog
(6,292 posts)Zeitghost
(4,259 posts)Nothing will happen to TFG or any of his inner circle for anything that happened as a part of his Administration or the events of 1/6/21.
Some minor players might get swept up, his business dealings and tax issues might cause some problems and there might be some campaign finance issues, but nothing of any real trouble to the ring leaders or the clown himself.
I may be wrong, thankfully for this prediction, we will all know the answer in the next 3 years. Something tells me those who continually trash anyone questioning the Biden administrations eagerness to prosecute the previous administration are going to have some egg on their faces when this all plays out.
Many will say the investigation is being kept behind the scenes, but that's not at all how it would work. You don't just drop charges on a former President out of the blue, two years later after a secret investigation. Trying the case in the media is 90% of the battle, if not more.
Above all else, they aren't going to bring a case of such magnitude and risk losing, it's far too risky. Not only would it consume Biden's entire term, it would be an absolute disaster for 2024 if Trump beat the rap. And seating an impartial jury would be impossible. It's simply not going to happen.
bucolic_frolic
(46,412 posts)Scrivener7
(52,281 posts)ancianita
(38,058 posts)1.
CHARGED 623 in 45 states
2.
INDICTED 297 in 26 states
3.
SENTENCED 11 in 8 states
AND
4.
CONVICTED 91 IN 28 STATES.
Merrick? Even though you're a Republican, YOU ARE A BADASS AMERICAN PATRIOT!
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)The Nuremberg Trials took a while to get underway also, if memory serves.
Solomon
(12,460 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,684 posts)This was exactly what we were telling ourselves during the Mueller investigation. Silence was a tactic, not a symptom.
We were dead wrong about that.
bucolic_frolic
(46,412 posts)TFG is at the nexus of everything, so unraveling can have adverse consequences. Every move must be carefully considered.
ancianita
(38,058 posts)We have a very real moral basis for democratic politics and TFG is not at the nexus of ANYTHING.
bucolic_frolic
(46,412 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Escurumbele
(3,574 posts)we all said the same thing about Muller...Muller will neve allow leaks, Muller is keeping a tight ship on the investigation, Muller will come up with the goods AND HE WILL DEFINITELY FIND THEM!...Muller etc., etc....
Well, what happened with Muller's investigation? NOTHING!
I am very worried that Garland is going the same way...what is happening to our political and judicial system, why are people so afraid?
I have always been an optimist, but in regards to what is going on I am starting to loose faith. People are too apathetic about what is going on, they don't want to listen, they don't want to accept that IT CAN HAPPEN HERE like it has happened to many other countries.
The entire World is going nuts, and I understand why, because the very rich and the politicians have made the World a worst place, greed has taken over, people are tired of the lies and do not believe they can do anything about it so they rather focus on their lives, their kids, not understanding that inaction and apathy about what is going on will only make things worse.
The buffoon did a job on the entire USA in the four years he played president, he created anxiety, division, hate, and the good people are tired.
Joinfortmill
(16,146 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,404 posts)Twitter and content less posts are making people lazy. Reading... it's fundamental!