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(11,949 posts)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:03 PM Sep 2021

The President's mandates gives medical systems and companies cover. I think that was his intent.

The President knows this will be tied up in court for months if not years. Before the cases are resolved Covid may be over.

But meanwhile all companies including Medical Companies now have a fig leaf to do what many feared to do before now; mandate a vaccine. And blame it on the President. Biden knows that. And that it will save lives.

That, folks, is what leadership looks like. No Bullshit, no fear leadership.

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(44,126 posts)
1. I agree totally; my thoughts as well. He provided cover for companies to take action.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:06 PM
Sep 2021

Yep. We are seeing the real deal. Leadership.

boston bean

(36,166 posts)
2. I think you're right. Our nation is full of a bunch of cowards worried about their pocketbooks.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:08 PM
Sep 2021

Never just doing what is right and good.

Makes me cringe.


(32,108 posts)
3. Yes, it is leadership. It seemed to me that companies were coming around, get vaccinated or quit
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:09 PM
Sep 2021

Which it wouldn’t have hurt for it to go that way.

Not easy to second guess all that went on behind the scenes, so once again I trust what decisions he decides to make


(11,949 posts)
6. Oh, I could be totally wrong and it actually takes effect soon. But that does not really matter.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:03 PM
Sep 2021

Companies will immediately start enforcing vaccines for their employees. That, after all, is really the goal.

Best leadership decisions I’ve seen in years. How many politicians would actually invite companies to blame them for doing the right thing and saving lives while pissing off lots of people. Damned few.


Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
4. I agree
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:12 PM
Sep 2021

Biden does not play; this is what American leadership should look like in all of our future presidents. Thank you for being effective, compassionate and competent!!


(11,458 posts)
7. Should have just instituted an individual mandate
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:26 PM
Sep 2021

This leaves out a significant number of the population. People retired, working for smaller companies, students, unemployed, disabled and many others.


(11,949 posts)
8. He does not have that power.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:33 PM
Sep 2021

There are laws that mandate businesses run a safe workplace and that gives him the authority in this case.

But even I would be against a president being able to mandate I get vaccinated.


(5,856 posts)
10. I doubt
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:06 PM
Sep 2021

that the mandate for medical systems is even taken up by SCOTUS (unlike the 100+ employer mandate) assuming it is even challenged. CMS dictates almost everything about medical care, credentialling providers, etc. (see Joint Commission), this isn't a big change but it gives cover to admin's who are worried about retaining workers or state owned facilities in R states.



(54,770 posts)
12. Didn't hurt, that's for sure. Think most businesses -- with any sense -- were
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:22 PM
Sep 2021

already mandating vaccines to keep employees from getting sick and avoid lawsuits for not maintaining a safe work place. But Biden’s mandate probably helped some make the decision easier.

Ticks me off that so many are vaccine stupid, such that a mandate is necessary.

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