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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,100 posts)
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:12 PM Sep 2021

Bette Midler calls on women to refuse sex to protest Texas abortion law

Actress Bette Midler called for women to refuse to have sex to protest Texas's recently enacted abortion law and suggested that Congress should guarantee abortion rights for women.

"I suggest that all women refuse to have sex with men until they are guaranteed the right to choose by Congress," Midler tweeted Thursday.




Texas's abortion law went into effect Wednesday. The Supreme Court voted 5-4 to deny an emergency request to block the law.

The measure effectively bans almost all abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which is usually at six weeks of pregnancy. The legislation also allows private citizens to sue people who aid or perform abortions in violation of the law.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bette-midler-calls-on-women-to-refuse-sex-to-protest-texas-abortion-law/ar-AAO67iR

Lysistrata
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Bette Midler calls on women to refuse sex to protest Texas abortion law (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Will be interesting to see EYESORE 9001 Sep 2021 #1
It seems you already have your answers UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #5
Well, here I am anyway. Punish all men? For what? Hortensis Sep 2021 #32
Not all men, just "anti-choice", republican men. smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #37
:) Well, perhaps if only then. The satisfaction would be worth Hortensis Sep 2021 #38
Lysistrata (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2021 #2
Yup. grumpyduck Sep 2021 #9
And believe it or not, the exact theme of one of Spike Lee's movies BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #13
This is always such a pointless suggestion. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #3
Agreed. I understand the sentiment, obviously... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #6
Thank you. Treefrog Sep 2021 #8
Reinforces rightwing belief women "give" sex leftstreet Sep 2021 #15
Well, there wouldn't be anymore abortions then. MichMan Sep 2021 #4
Their would likely be more "marital" rapes. Remember who we would be dealing with. usaf-vet Sep 2021 #21
Well, you then think it would prevent rape resulting in pregnancies'? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #29
Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #7
Make Texas The Blue Ball State lame54 Sep 2021 #10
okay babe no listen WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #11
Amend that wryter2000 Sep 2021 #12
"Let's punish our partners for something they had nothing to do with!" Sympthsical Sep 2021 #14
"Let's punish OURSELVES (women who enjoy sex with men) for...wait, for what now?" WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #17
I strongly suspect Sympthsical Sep 2021 #19
Wow. Just NOT true. Tommymac Sep 2021 #33
Because it's grotesquely unhealthy behavior Sympthsical Sep 2021 #35
They wouldn't want you 2abigbman Sep 2021 #20
Cool internet straw man Sympthsical Sep 2021 #24
Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having said that. LanternWaste Sep 2021 #30
You keep using that word. Sympthsical Sep 2021 #31
He's fallen in love with that line. 11 Bravo Sep 2021 #36
That's what I've been saying... nt 2naSalit Sep 2021 #16
I don't think this boycott will last long. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #18
about two minutes? qazplm135 Sep 2021 #22
Careful, these Christian men kacekwl Sep 2021 #23
How 19th century. Women hate sex, men can't live w/o. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #25
lol What? Sex isn't a commodity to be given. Oneironaut Sep 2021 #26
Refuse to do "the wild thing"? Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #27
Unfortunately Mossfern Sep 2021 #28
There would be a rather dramatic drop in the population of Texas. NT. anamnua Sep 2021 #34
Does anyone actually believe that this will occur to any noticeable degree, anecdotes aside? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #39

EYESORE 9001

(25,952 posts)
1. Will be interesting to see
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

whether the same scolds emerge to condemn Bette Midler for making this suggestion as those who ridiculed DUers unmercifully the other day for suggesting the same thing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Well, here I am anyway. Punish all men? For what?
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 06:05 PM
Sep 2021

Just to indulge some general male-hating impulse? I don't hate my husband, who supports abortion and has always been on my side.

I do hate seeing Midler posting something so incredibly stupid and outrageously unjust. How could anyone not realize at her age that women who partner with extremist RW men AGREE with them? When these schmucks manage to get a first date with most women, it's only because they kept their mouths shut long enough.

Maybe it was a joke? Hope, hope?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. :) Well, perhaps if only then. The satisfaction would be worth
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 12:49 PM
Sep 2021

watching the rage of newly "incelized" men joining already enraged hard-core misogynists. (In this fantasy, most would cave in to their women, sex as a commodity would be replaced with sex as pleasure, and they'd live with happily ever after. But not all.)

A certain little problem is what I already pointed out: Anti-abortion men have anti-abortion wives and girlfriends. For me, that makes it a dumb (as well as suspect) fantasy, rather than a humorous, pleasant one.

But, now that I'm on this again, it also occurs that those who just love the idea might possibly find the RW was helping spread it. Just the idea would make a great hostile RW narrative. Like the nonexistent manhating bra burners, not a single man would need to be turned out of bed for RW swiftboaters to turn LW "Lysicastratas" into a giant slur on not just Democrats but on the very idea of modern, empowered women.

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
13. And believe it or not, the exact theme of one of Spike Lee's movies
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021

"Chi-Raq", where the characters were actually named for those in that Greek play and the film plot followed as well except set in modern-day Chicago -

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. Agreed. I understand the sentiment, obviously...
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:26 PM
Sep 2021

... but it's not going to happen. At best, it's just something to grab a headline and draw more attention to the issue. That's all.

Love you, Bette... but this doesn't help.

usaf-vet

(6,190 posts)
21. Their would likely be more "marital" rapes. Remember who we would be dealing with.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:00 PM
Sep 2021

The males that pushed these abortion laws through have already proven they don't respect women.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
14. "Let's punish our partners for something they had nothing to do with!"
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

Brilliant move. Also very healthy for any relationship.

If I were with someone who did this, much less posted publicly about it, I wouldn't be with them for very long.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
19. I strongly suspect
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 03:48 PM
Sep 2021

The people who are forever injecting politics into their sex lives aren't having a whole lot to begin with.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
35. Because it's grotesquely unhealthy behavior
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 07:31 PM
Sep 2021

I know we're in a bubble and all, but honestly. If I'm in a relationship, and my partner decides, "You know, we can't have sex because of something people in Texas did," I'm going to be giving both my partner and that relationship some serious side eye.

Holding a healthy physical relationship hostage because of politics? I mean, you do you. Everyone will. But yikes. Hard pass. In my experience, the kinds of people who play these games usually aren't in great relationships to begin with.

If sex is a currency to use for bargaining to get what one wants within the relationship, two words: Couples therapy. Or just break up. Life's too fucking short.

2abigbman

(29 posts)
20. They wouldn't want you
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 03:59 PM
Sep 2021

I support a women's right to choose. That means when, where and why she chooses to have sex. If you don't, then no wonder they wouldn't want to be with you. And the men who created this law don't give two shi*** about women's health or rights. If they have the misfortune to be with a Neanderthal they are considered only a baby factory. Avoid Sex so no pregnancy, no problem.

abigbman

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
24. Cool internet straw man
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:11 PM
Sep 2021

Anyone should be able to choose when or where they have sex. I can also choose the kinds of relationships I'm in. No one's entitled to be in a relationship. Someone brings politics into the bedroom, I'm pretty much out. And if that kind of person doesn't want to be with me, that would be fantastic. It could be a mutual parting. In fact, I would love to know if they're that kind of person before even starting dating.

Get some of that swipe left action going.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having said that.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:49 PM
Sep 2021

"Get some of that swipe left action going."

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
36. He's fallen in love with that line.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:32 PM
Sep 2021

Uses it all the time. Seldom in a manner that makes any contextual sense.

kacekwl

(7,020 posts)
23. Careful, these Christian men
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 04:09 PM
Sep 2021

may have no problem forceing themselves on their woman folk to do their matrimonial duties.

Backseat Driver

(4,394 posts)
27. Refuse to do "the wild thing"?
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

I've been "involuntarily celibate" for at least two decades, ladies and gentlemen, without an adequate explanation from my marital partner. I've asked nice and not so nice...I've tested lots of conceivable issues - NOPE! I've defended him against GOP abusive policies when "nothing personal, just business" was serial and afflicted that tender male ego.

Geesh, wanna make me out now as the feminine equivalent to an INCEL...unpleasant, unhygenic, shrill and nagging? Shall we discuss empathy, compassion for the aged male organ (his brain) without being called out as an enabler, not quite a worthy wife? Do you women think ewwwww...at your age, you still want/desire? Ain't dead yet, ladies! Beg for a discrete "OPEN" marriage? LOL - The fact that my assets are gone and my vehicle inoperable while his "depreciating used assets gets fixed on a "family values" austerity budget is, quite candidly, because it's all HIS - All I feel at 70+ is his embedded misogyny, power and control over the "little woman." Now I actually do feel like the most unattractive, incapable woman on earth! Because, he's so busy, busy, busy helping his aging woman around the house as HIS loving substitute for some heated affection--I should be grateful, no? YUP - A "always mad woman," an ineffective love addict, a nymphomaniac by his estimation, waking up each day WITH A NEW PURPOSE for living!

Meanwhile, my 40 quarters of labor outside the home over the years never brought balance or riches and my contributions to HIS support entitles me by law to stay just short of the benefits afforded the truly "poor." Talk about elder emotional and financial abuse...heck, alone I'd have the same and less - inadequate health care; low wage jobs, homelessness? TPTB say I cannot even be compelled to testify against this criminally faultless man. Only blue NY state recognizes this as a reason for divorce, cruel and unusual as it is, so now I'd be also be a gold-digger just for living maintenance. Help me, ladies, I want to be as expensive and high-maintenance to RW Christians and the GOP/GQP...as I can. I just don't see myself with much clout ($$) to do it well.

Mossfern

(2,530 posts)
28. Unfortunately
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 05:37 PM
Sep 2021

only those who don't agree with the law will do that. Those that do agree will gladly have sex with their male partner.
I apologize if this has already been mentioned. I'm kind of eager to respond.

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