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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:38 AM Oct 2012

ANN'S Most Telling Statement: "You know, we find different ways of serving"

DIFFERENT THEN THESE GUYS?





Well, get a load of this one:

The wife of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Thursday said that her husband and sons had not joined the U.S. military but had found “different ways of serving” by going on religious missions in France, England, Australia and Chile as part of their obligation to the Mormon church.

...

“He was serving his mission, and my five sons have also served missions. None served in the military, but I do have one son that feels that he’s giving back to his country in a significant way where he is now a doctor and he is taking care of veterans.”

“So, you know, we find different ways of serving,” she added. “And my husband and my five boys did serve missions, did not serve in the military.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/18/ann-romney-mormon-missions-and-u-s-military-are-different-ways-of-serving/

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ANN'S Most Telling Statement: "You know, we find different ways of serving" (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
......ourselves" TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #1
Personal experience with this johnbslc Oct 2012 #30
Thanks for sharing that. I understand your anger, and TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #33
They were serving a cult lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #2
The Romney Clan is more offensive than the Bush Clan. City Lights Oct 2012 #3
Fulfilling a church requirement is not the same as serving your country Lucinda Oct 2012 #4
She means different ways of being SELF serving. I despise this woman. forestpath Oct 2012 #5
Come sit by me. madmax Oct 2012 #9
Thank you! The thought of her as first lady makes my blood run cold! forestpath Oct 2012 #20
Running off to the French Riviera is not serving! B Calm Oct 2012 #6
Mitt's Agenda: Donkees Oct 2012 #7
While Mitt was in France jsr Oct 2012 #8
Why complain? she said different serving - so different outcome is expected (not come back in bags) JackN415 Oct 2012 #10
At the end of the day Romney exboyfil Oct 2012 #11
If you're important enough, she has her staff serve you cookies! n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #12
So says the snooty sorority girl with 10 servants. Happyhippychick Oct 2012 #13
That is EXACTLY what she is. closeupready Oct 2012 #32
The one time I can remember Mormons serving a military duty randr Oct 2012 #14
Whoopi amuse bouche Oct 2012 #15
And I call them all 'chicken hawks'. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #16
"Cowards" is more succinct 68 Rex Oct 2012 #39
This is personal. John2 Oct 2012 #17
+1000 crazylikafox Oct 2012 #18
thank you kpete Oct 2012 #19
thank you John2 and welcome to DU librechik Oct 2012 #24
+1 Johonny Oct 2012 #25
Welcome to DU. TBF Oct 2012 #36
K&R midnight Oct 2012 #21
Serving whom, kpete? GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #22
yes--when you serve your country, you are not also serving God. They are separate. librechik Oct 2012 #23
Jenna Bush had the same excuse. begin_within Oct 2012 #26
She's right, though. Some of us do it by paying taxes. IdaBriggs Oct 2012 #27
ding ding ding ding ding! renate Oct 2012 #35
Her statements should really piss off a lot of people......"missions" - oh please! barnabas63 Oct 2012 #28
I don't put walking door to door forcing your religion on people marlakay Oct 2012 #29
How times have changed hfojvt Oct 2012 #31
why couldn't they have done both military service and Mormon proselytizing? renate Oct 2012 #34
I wouldn't have a problem if the "mission" was to help people like alternate service in VISTA Hamlette Oct 2012 #37
Mitt Romney demonstrates in favor of Vietnam War draft for the 47% jsr Oct 2012 #38

johnbslc

(3 posts)
30. Personal experience with this
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:23 AM
Oct 2012

I'm a non-mormon who lives in Utah. I'm also a Vietnam Veteran. I remember during the war when all the slimy mormon kids got to avoid the draft because the draft board was made up of mormons. All us "gentiles" as they call us, went to serve our country while the little mormon boys got to go hide on their missions. I am totally disgusted by anyone who did this. It's almost treasonous. And I know a lot of Vets and parents of dead soldiers who were really pissed off by it.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
2. They were serving a cult
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:42 AM
Oct 2012



She should be ashamed for even suggesting there is any comparison.
Proof that they live in a separate parallel universe.





Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. Fulfilling a church requirement is not the same as serving your country
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:43 AM
Oct 2012

Though you can be of service to your community through your church.

This woman really is out of touch...

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. Running off to the French Riviera is not serving!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:48 AM
Oct 2012

What cracked me up was she said they all came back as men, lol. .

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
10. Why complain? she said different serving - so different outcome is expected (not come back in bags)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:56 AM
Oct 2012

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
11. At the end of the day Romney
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

stood at Stanford with a sign defending the privilege of the upper class. While he was a vocal supporter of the war, the counter-protest sign was in support of the change in DoD policy extending draft deferments on test scores and not limiting the number to particular institutions.

So his one example of protesting is to ensure that he extended a benefit to himself. The individuals in the initial protest which prompted Romney to the counter-protest were jeopardizing their own deferments and essentially protesting against their best interests (for those who were students at Stanford).

How anyone in the military can vote for this man is entirely beyond me.

randr

(12,412 posts)
14. The one time I can remember Mormons serving a military duty
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:09 AM
Oct 2012

they were killing American soldiers sent to enforce laws protecting children from polygamists.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
15. Whoopi
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:15 AM
Oct 2012

did a good thing asking the question but damn it brought out the vile bigots on Twitter yesterday

The old fashion racial hatred was front and center. They went after her like the vicious pigs they are

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
17. This is personal.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:37 AM
Oct 2012

I'm a military veteran and was of Draft age during the Vietnam War. I am Black and our family was on government assistance. In, high school I watched guys ahead of me get Drafted, to go to Vietnam. We had to register for the Draft. And every day, we would watch the news with the names of those who died in Vietnam. A lot of my friends died and some in my family. Their names are on that Wall. Romney don't understand that. The survivors are part of that 47%. Everybody didn't have well to do parents like Senator McCain. Everybody weren't POWs like Senator McCain either. Those are the unforgotten heroes.

I also remember another Black male who didn't get the privilege mitt romney got because of his religion. That guy, was the Heavy weight Champion of the World. So there was a double standard. Cassius Clay went to jail and he objected to the the War. Mitt Romney is the opposite. He was for the War, even protested against those who protested against it. So he was excused because of his religion. As a veteran who had friends and family died in Vietnam, I cannot respect Mitt Romney as Commander-in-Chief. As far as their excuse for President Obama, He was only a kid at the time. So that excuse don't fly with me.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
23. yes--when you serve your country, you are not also serving God. They are separate.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:01 AM
Oct 2012

Therefore, when you serve God on a mission, you are not also serving your country.

Nope, Ann, God and Country are not interchangeable. Not under the Constitution. And that was done for a reason, not to annoy people like you.

In the US of A, that is how the system is supposed to work. These people want to change all that forever.

The recent Texas high school cheerleader case is an early example of how they plan to sweep the nation with this Christianist BS.

Citizen's United made that decision possible apparently. If we don't get rid of that stuff ASAP we are done.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
27. She's right, though. Some of us do it by paying taxes.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

Maybe she and her husband could show us they do it that way, too?

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
28. Her statements should really piss off a lot of people......"missions" - oh please!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

How many votes did Ann lose for Mitt yesterday?? Plenty of people from families of those serving in the military.

marlakay

(11,464 posts)
29. I don't put walking door to door forcing your religion on people
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:21 AM
Oct 2012

The same as protecting my country!

They come to my rural house at least 2 or 3 times a year even though we asked to be taken off their list. Last time a few months ago I was outside it my pool when they walked up and asked if I needed help.

I told them I was atheist and thought their church was a cult. I have never said that before just hoping they will give up.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
31. How times have changed
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:33 AM
Oct 2012

It used to be that anti-war types like, say William Jefferson Clinton, might have agreed with such a sentiment, but I guess when you can use flag draped coffins for political purposes, then it time for every liberal to say hoo-rah.

My own way to serve, after all, was to rent a car and drive to the anti-war protest in Lawrence. Who knows, if a few thousand of my neighbors had chosen to serve in the same way, there might be a lot less flag draped coffns. (Not to mention this http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/)

renate

(13,776 posts)
34. why couldn't they have done both military service and Mormon proselytizing?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

Some Mormons did go to Vietnam. Presumably the Romney boys weren't actually prevented by their Mormonism from serving in the military, right? They chose not to, which is fine, so just admit it, Ann. "We find different ways of serving" is stupid and insulting.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
37. I wouldn't have a problem if the "mission" was to help people like alternate service in VISTA
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:51 PM
Oct 2012

a friend of mine found his way to my state, Utah, to help migrant farmers in VISTA. It was his alternate service as a CO.

Many people think of missions as going to poor nations and helping build schools etc. Luckily most people have had Mormon missionaries knock on their doors so know what a Mormon mission is. Here's hoping they are as irritated as I am when they come calling.

BTW, atheist usually does work with Mormon missionaries. They look at you kind of stunned. And go away. Do not try it with 7th Day Adventists however. They see it as a challenge and don't go away.

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