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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsANN'S Most Telling Statement: "You know, we find different ways of serving"
DIFFERENT THEN THESE GUYS?
Well, get a load of this one:
The wife of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Thursday said that her husband and sons had not joined the U.S. military but had found different ways of serving by going on religious missions in France, England, Australia and Chile as part of their obligation to the Mormon church.
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He was serving his mission, and my five sons have also served missions. None served in the military, but I do have one son that feels that hes giving back to his country in a significant way where he is now a doctor and he is taking care of veterans.
So, you know, we find different ways of serving, she added. And my husband and my five boys did serve missions, did not serve in the military.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/18/ann-romney-mormon-missions-and-u-s-military-are-different-ways-of-serving/
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)What a selfish bunch of hypocrites.
johnbslc
(3 posts)I'm a non-mormon who lives in Utah. I'm also a Vietnam Veteran. I remember during the war when all the slimy mormon kids got to avoid the draft because the draft board was made up of mormons. All us "gentiles" as they call us, went to serve our country while the little mormon boys got to go hide on their missions. I am totally disgusted by anyone who did this. It's almost treasonous. And I know a lot of Vets and parents of dead soldiers who were really pissed off by it.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Welcome to DU!
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)She should be ashamed for even suggesting there is any comparison.
Proof that they live in a separate parallel universe.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)The nerve that woman has!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Though you can be of service to your community through your church.
This woman really is out of touch...
forestpath
(3,102 posts)madmax
(16,612 posts)My bp spikes 10 points and that's before she opens her mouth.
Welcome to DU
forestpath
(3,102 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)What cracked me up was she said they all came back as men, lol. .
Donkees
(31,398 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)JackN415
(924 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)stood at Stanford with a sign defending the privilege of the upper class. While he was a vocal supporter of the war, the counter-protest sign was in support of the change in DoD policy extending draft deferments on test scores and not limiting the number to particular institutions.
So his one example of protesting is to ensure that he extended a benefit to himself. The individuals in the initial protest which prompted Romney to the counter-protest were jeopardizing their own deferments and essentially protesting against their best interests (for those who were students at Stanford).
How anyone in the military can vote for this man is entirely beyond me.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)On the money.
randr
(12,412 posts)they were killing American soldiers sent to enforce laws protecting children from polygamists.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)did a good thing asking the question but damn it brought out the vile bigots on Twitter yesterday
The old fashion racial hatred was front and center. They went after her like the vicious pigs they are
sinkingfeeling
(51,455 posts)68 Rex
(81 posts)John2
(2,730 posts)I'm a military veteran and was of Draft age during the Vietnam War. I am Black and our family was on government assistance. In, high school I watched guys ahead of me get Drafted, to go to Vietnam. We had to register for the Draft. And every day, we would watch the news with the names of those who died in Vietnam. A lot of my friends died and some in my family. Their names are on that Wall. Romney don't understand that. The survivors are part of that 47%. Everybody didn't have well to do parents like Senator McCain. Everybody weren't POWs like Senator McCain either. Those are the unforgotten heroes.
I also remember another Black male who didn't get the privilege mitt romney got because of his religion. That guy, was the Heavy weight Champion of the World. So there was a double standard. Cassius Clay went to jail and he objected to the the War. Mitt Romney is the opposite. He was for the War, even protested against those who protested against it. So he was excused because of his religion. As a veteran who had friends and family died in Vietnam, I cannot respect Mitt Romney as Commander-in-Chief. As far as their excuse for President Obama, He was only a kid at the time. So that excuse don't fly with me.
for your comments.
You say SO much with your words.
peace for all of us,
kp
librechik
(30,674 posts)stick around!
TBF
(32,058 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)Therefore, when you serve God on a mission, you are not also serving your country.
Nope, Ann, God and Country are not interchangeable. Not under the Constitution. And that was done for a reason, not to annoy people like you.
In the US of A, that is how the system is supposed to work. These people want to change all that forever.
The recent Texas high school cheerleader case is an early example of how they plan to sweep the nation with this Christianist BS.
Citizen's United made that decision possible apparently. If we don't get rid of that stuff ASAP we are done.
begin_within
(21,551 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Maybe she and her husband could show us they do it that way, too?
renate
(13,776 posts)Good answer!
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)How many votes did Ann lose for Mitt yesterday?? Plenty of people from families of those serving in the military.
marlakay
(11,464 posts)The same as protecting my country!
They come to my rural house at least 2 or 3 times a year even though we asked to be taken off their list. Last time a few months ago I was outside it my pool when they walked up and asked if I needed help.
I told them I was atheist and thought their church was a cult. I have never said that before just hoping they will give up.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)It used to be that anti-war types like, say William Jefferson Clinton, might have agreed with such a sentiment, but I guess when you can use flag draped coffins for political purposes, then it time for every liberal to say hoo-rah.
My own way to serve, after all, was to rent a car and drive to the anti-war protest in Lawrence. Who knows, if a few thousand of my neighbors had chosen to serve in the same way, there might be a lot less flag draped coffns. (Not to mention this http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/)
renate
(13,776 posts)Some Mormons did go to Vietnam. Presumably the Romney boys weren't actually prevented by their Mormonism from serving in the military, right? They chose not to, which is fine, so just admit it, Ann. "We find different ways of serving" is stupid and insulting.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)a friend of mine found his way to my state, Utah, to help migrant farmers in VISTA. It was his alternate service as a CO.
Many people think of missions as going to poor nations and helping build schools etc. Luckily most people have had Mormon missionaries knock on their doors so know what a Mormon mission is. Here's hoping they are as irritated as I am when they come calling.
BTW, atheist usually does work with Mormon missionaries. They look at you kind of stunned. And go away. Do not try it with 7th Day Adventists however. They see it as a challenge and don't go away.