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Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:31 PM

Marine officer relieved of duty after calling out senior leaders about Afghanistan

"I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, ‘I demand accountability,'" Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller said in a video message.

A Marine officer was relieved of duty on Friday after ripping into military leaders in a social media video following an ISIS attack outside a Kabul airport that left at least 13 U.S. troops and more than 100 Afghans dead.

Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller posted on Facebook that he has “been relieved for cause based on lack of trust and confidence as of 14:30 today.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/27/marine-us-fatalities-afghanistan-506999

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Reply Marine officer relieved of duty after calling out senior leaders about Afghanistan (Original post)
twin_ghost Aug 2021 OP
ZonkerHarris Aug 2021 #1
dalton99a Aug 2021 #2
regnaD kciN Aug 2021 #12
aeromanKC Aug 2021 #3
bluestarone Aug 2021 #10
bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #4
walkingman Aug 2021 #5
Hekate Aug 2021 #22
Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #26
GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #6
sop Aug 2021 #7
justhanginon Aug 2021 #8
BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #9
jmowreader Aug 2021 #17
TomSlick Aug 2021 #20
joetheman Aug 2021 #11
Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #13
TomSlick Aug 2021 #14
DashOneBravo Aug 2021 #19
Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2021 #15
maxrandb Aug 2021 #16
emmaverybo Aug 2021 #25
DashOneBravo Aug 2021 #18
haele Aug 2021 #21
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DashOneBravo Aug 2021 #23
GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #24

Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:38 PM

1. Fuck you Col.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:44 PM

2. He'll run for Congress

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:03 PM

12. ...after becoming a regular on Faux.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:56 PM

3. I can't seem to find on his timeline such demand for accountablility on Trump

As Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David, signed surrender with said Taliban and released 5,000 Taliban and other terrorist prisoners.

I'll keep looking though.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:16 PM

10. EXACTLY!

Plus we KNOW WHY!!

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:06 PM

4. Good, now remove the Officer of Marines who was arrested at the Capitol on 1/6

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:09 PM

5. I think he has a valid point. We depend on the military senior leadership

and intelligence agencies to make accurate assessments when it comes to foreign policy. We were lied to about Vietnam, about Iraq, and about Afghanistan. Thousands of US soldiers and hundreds of thousands of opposing forces have been killed based upon these exaggerations or outright lies. Whether it is foreign policy, sexual misconduct, or even local housing issues, protecting the "military brand" seems to be what is most important.

When it comes to national security, our biggest threat is lack of trust in senior military leadership by America’s sons and daughters entrusted to their care.

Peace

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Response to walkingman (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 11:56 PM

22. Cleaning this up requires civilians, meaning us, & especially politicians: the House, the Senate...

I learned something from a hardened vet back when I was a naive 17 and he was 27: the United States military is designed to be non-political, and it must remain apolitical. I did not understand that at the time because protest against the Vietnam War was in the air, and I knew there were plenty of servicemen who had realized it was a mistake. But to truly speak out, first they had to get out.

Despots go out of their way to politicize the military, to make them loyal to a person (i.e. the despot), to disregard their Constitution, and to distrust the civilian political system. Our military personnel take an oath to the Constitution, not their commanders and not the President.

As for who lies us in to wars: look to civilian leaders, like politicians. Look to the moneymakers, like Blackwater. Look to the media: over a century ago William Randolph Hearst was instrumental in getting us into the Spanish-American War, because ginning up war-fever sold newspapers.

As to who can clean this up — coming full circle, that’s us and the people we elect, so be active and keep an eye out.






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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 28, 2021, 01:18 AM

26. There's a reason the founders of this country

made a civilian the Commander-In-Chief of the military.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:09 PM

6. Good, now court martial him.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:10 PM

7. "My life's purpose is to make America the most lethal and effective foreign diplomacy instrument.

While my days of hand to hand violence may be ending...I see new light on the horizon.”

This guy is seriously fucked up. He'll be spouting his ideas on FOX News in no time

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:11 PM

8. Stay tuned. You just know this POS will be running for

political office shortly after he is done being interviewed by the all various scumball talk shows

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:13 PM

9. Alrighty Then...

How about a dishonorable discharge and forfeiture of your pension? That works just fine for me.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:59 PM

17. They call it dismissal for officers

Has the same effect as a DD, but no court martial is needed.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 11:21 PM

20. Not quite right.

You are correct that officers can be sentenced to a dismissal and not a dishonorable discharge. You are also correct that the effect of a dismissal and a DD are essentially the same.

However, a dismissal can only be adjudged by a general court-martial.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:25 PM

11. So many military are Nazi sympathizers I can't listen to any of them. nt

 

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:04 PM

13. As it turns out, he threw it all away.

Edit to add: this shit needs to be nipped hard in the bud, cannot have officers OR enlisted going on social media to denounce commanders. Serious breach of discipline.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:30 PM

14. What an idiot!

Any senior military officer knows this would be a carrier-ending decision. He will be lucky to avoid court-martial.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 11:15 PM

19. +1

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:34 PM

15. And another Fox News hero is born.

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:35 PM

16. Don't just relieve him of duty, Court Martial his dumbass!

This "effing" shit needs to stop...NOW!

This is what our country is becoming.

That evil Navy SEAL that Faux News and wingnut media turned into a fucking hero was a signal of more of this shit to come.

If you have never served in the military, you have no clue as to how damaging this is to good order and discipline, or how DANGEROUS this is to our Democracy

This guy needs to be busted to "E-Nothing", stripped of all awards and privilege, and given a Dishonorable Discharge, after serving significant time in Federal prison.

There are valid processes and avenues that are available for military members to question and request reviews of leadership decisions. Social Media isn't one of them.

Every last one of these mouth dragging, hate-radio listening, fascist dipshits needs to be excised from the military, like the cancer they are.

For the military leadership, there should NOT be one fucking DOD installation, break room, waiting room, gym or workspace that has a TV tuned to Faux News, or a radio tuned to Hannity, or whatever dipshit is currently hosting the zombie Rush show.

This fucking conservative propaganda shit and hate radio shit is hard enough to deal with in the civilian world, but it's downright dangerous in the military.

As tragic as it was, if one dogface soldier had complained about the "leadership" during the D-Day invasion, they would have been hung.

If we allow this shit to go unpunished in the military, our fucking democratic experiment is OVER!

This is that fucking serious, and dangerous.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:57 AM

25. +1 and ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++for "evil Navy SEAL"

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 11:13 PM

18. The military needs to start more training

About making statements while in uniform.

Here’s a motor pool Senior NCO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/army/comments/pcd10j/ssg_bronson_spits_facts/

In truth she could probably bury you. With a lot of paperwork

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Response to DashOneBravo (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 11:52 PM

21. The current training is starting to cover that.

The top brass is trying to tell these knuckleheads that whatever you post on social media will get back to your CO.
They can't control your dumb-ass hatred and racist thought -and that's something they admit, but they can control your actions, associations, and activities under the UCMJ.

And, BTW, threatening civilians is against the UCMJ.

Haele

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Response to haele (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:35 AM

23. .

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Response to twin_ghost (Original post)

Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:38 AM

24. Good. In the military

you’re not supposed to do that.

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