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onetexan

(13,174 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:55 AM Aug 2021

And here it is folks: Admission by the Con's own lackeys that deal w Taliban was a bad one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/19/trump-officials-scramble-distance-his-taliban-deal/?fbclid=IwAR3tLAaTXtHNfuB8k863Bsd8k_Gvcb7RbLb2s0GjS_mIergHkp74IPgace8

But as Republicans continue to prosecute that case, something interesting keeps cropping up: former Trump administration officials seeking not just to bash Biden, but to distance themselves from the Trump administration’s own actions on this front.

That goes particularly for the deal the Trump administration cut with the Taliban last year. And we’re talking about many of its top foreign-policy figures.

(Christopher) Miller’s implication seems to be: We weren’t really going to do this thing that just plunged Afghanistan into chaos and allowed the Taliban to re-seize power. But it still meant the deal was in place and had to be dealt with by Biden, who has argued that it left him with a choice between full withdrawal and an escalation if he pulled out of the deal.

Miller has argued that Biden could have renegotiated the deal if he wanted to. But as the Associated Press rightly notes, Biden had little leverage as someone who had been pushing for a U.S. withdrawal for years.

And that’s something several key Trump foreign-policy hands seem to acknowledge.

Esper, too, has tried to play his part in crafting the public narrative of Trump’s deal with the Taliban — but not in a positive way for Trump. Esper said Trump undermined the agreement by continuing to withdraw troops despite the Taliban not living up to its end of the bargain, which was signed in Doha, Qatar, in February 2020. And he explicitly tied that the deal to what happened in recent days.

“Otherwise,” Esper said to CNN of his advice to Trump, “we would see a number of things play out, which are unfolding right now in many ways.”

Trump’s former national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, has been arguably the most brutal about the Taliban deal. Having in the past compared it to the infamous Munich agreement of 1938 which paved the way for Adolf Hitler’s rise, McMaster even more explicitly tied the events of the past week to it.

“Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” McMaster told Bari Weiss. “This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”
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No sh!t


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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. More indications this was a set up all along,
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:05 AM
Aug 2021

But who was really behind it, putin? Wouldn't surprise me. The release of the terrorist Baradar, and 5,000 of his fighters helped cause this now. Was the peace deal done for their release?

FalloutShelter

(12,173 posts)
3. The former Afghan President is
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:18 AM
Aug 2021

In the UAE right now sitting on $168 MILLION American $$$$$$!. I’d like to know what TFG’s cut is.

Baitball Blogger

(47,239 posts)
7. The president of Afghan would not give Trump a cut.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:11 AM
Aug 2021

Trump rolled over the president. Pushed him out of the negotiation talks. I'm guessing that the president left in fear of his life. And the money was to secure favor with the government of the country where he settled.

JHB

(37,194 posts)
4. A few other Trump self-interest factors too.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:27 AM
Aug 2021

1) It would avoid possible flare-ups in the middle of an election. That would be the kind of publicity he doesn't like, and

2) He wanted a Nobel Peace Prize because Obama had one. Declaring a 20-year war over could be the something he needed to wave under the noses of the Nobel committee.

Kid Berwyn

(16,148 posts)
2. The story that Corporate McPravda missed.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:13 AM
Aug 2021

“Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” McMaster told Bari Weiss. “This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”

Thank you, onetexan!
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. +1. At this point, it doesn't matter what trump did in Afghanistan. We should have known better.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:53 AM
Aug 2021

onetexan

(13,174 posts)
13. Believe what? The pullout was necessary & the outcome predictable
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:00 AM
Aug 2021

Biden faced 2 terrible options. He took the path he deemed best for the country. I back him 100%.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Pompeo "signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban"
Sun Aug 22, 2021, 04:54 PM
Aug 2021

So, by all means, let's give Mr. First in his Class at West Point a platform to obfuscate, dodge, lie, and dissemble about his negotiations with the Taliban and blame President Biden for the hash Pompeo's deal with the Taliban have made in Afghanistan. Thanks so much, liberal media.

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