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Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:00 PM

I don't get it! If for thousands of years the women of Afghanistan existed under subordination,

why would anyone believe that even the non Taliban Afghani men would want the situation to change.

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Reply I don't get it! If for thousands of years the women of Afghanistan existed under subordination, (Original post)
cornball 24 Aug 2021 OP
Pantagruel Aug 2021 #1
onetexan Aug 2021 #2
jcgoldie Aug 2021 #3
The Magistrate Aug 2021 #4
Treefrog Aug 2021 #12
brooklynite Aug 2021 #5
Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #6
tblue37 Aug 2021 #8
LanternWaste Aug 2021 #9
Raine Aug 2021 #7
abqtommy Aug 2021 #10
applegrove Aug 2021 #11

Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:05 PM

1. Afghani men and women

had accepted the "subordination" under cover of the real evil-RELIGION.
Organized RELIGION of every stripe is mostly just cover for power grabs.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:08 PM

2. Sounds about right. Religion was invented to control the masses

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:10 PM

3. And more specifically...

...for controlling women.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:21 PM

4. A Sound Point, Sir

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:24 PM

12. Ugh.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:27 PM

5. Because it did...

Urban Afghanistan (Iím and around Kabul) was fairly progressive before the Taliban. Women didnít wear burkas (or even hijabs) they worked, went to college; went outside for n their own, etc.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:03 PM

6. For thousands of years ALL women existed under subordination. And very few men wanted

the situation to change. And women have fought tooth and nail for a hundred years at least to make the change to where we are now.

And many American men would absolutely love it if the situation reverted tomorrow. Many more than would admit it. Many more than we would like to think.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:11 PM

8. +a brazillion! nt

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:29 PM

9. Your point is *the* point too often ignored.

 

We (our collective culture) have been rending our garments in true hipster fashion since last week over the current plight of the women in Afghanistan... but at the expense of women's concerns, treatment, and history everywhere else.

The newfound outrage at the Afghani misogyny we've seen since Biden's announcement seems little more than a stage prop used only when doing so supports some other cause. I can remember the collective conversations regarding Steubinville or Elliot Rogers minimizing the same misogyny as anything other than misogyny.

So I can't do anything other than agree with you, and hold a lot og skepticism for so many people who are only now expressing concern about the treatment of women.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:06 PM

7. It wasn't always that way

I know I've seen pictures of the women in swimsuits etc.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:52 PM

10. To paraphrase John and Yoko: "women are the (slaves) of the world". Fer sure.

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Response to cornball 24 (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:30 PM

11. Because they have daughters, sisters, mothers and wives. Because they love.

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