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joetheman

(1,450 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:38 AM Aug 2021

We are upset with Afghans who refused to fight for their land, but angry at Palestinians who do?

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So we really know who we are?

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We are upset with Afghans who refused to fight for their land, but angry at Palestinians who do? (Original Post) joetheman Aug 2021 OP
Are Palestinians fighting Hamas? Happy Hoosier Aug 2021 #1
I think they're saying frazzled Aug 2021 #4
Wow, this is a bad take. intheflow Aug 2021 #9
Isn't Hamas fighting for Palestinians? marble falls Aug 2021 #11
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. What a concept. brush Aug 2021 #2
We have not spent 20 years and a trillion dollars bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #3
That is some reach you just made. madaboutharry Aug 2021 #5
False equivalent no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #6
Palestinians are fighting Hamas? Devil Child Aug 2021 #7
Apples & oranges. SharonClark Aug 2021 #8
Who we are ... marble falls Aug 2021 #10
It's not about having spent a trillion dollars, or they're fighting... brush Aug 2021 #12
Most people don't have a clearly defined ethos. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2021 #13
It is Afghans fighting Afghans. It is more analogous to the civil war between the PA and Hamas hack89 Aug 2021 #14
I'm not angry at Palestinians. Speak for yourself. nt crickets Aug 2021 #15
Not the same thing. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #16
Good question Mosby Aug 2021 #17
Locking as off topic. lapucelle Aug 2021 #18

Happy Hoosier

(7,512 posts)
1. Are Palestinians fighting Hamas?
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:42 AM
Aug 2021

Or is this just a bullshit apples to oranges comparison?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. I think they're saying
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:46 AM
Aug 2021

that the Israeli government is tantamount to the Taliban ... or something off-kilter like that. (Like they behead people.) Or that we've trained the Palestinians for twenty years. Or that Israel and Afghanistan have anything to do with one another.

intheflow

(28,533 posts)
9. Wow, this is a bad take.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:23 AM
Aug 2021

If you're a Palestinian living in terror of being bombed, I don't think you're comparing whether your fear is really that big of a deal because at least the Israelis aren't beheading you.

marble falls

(57,834 posts)
11. Isn't Hamas fighting for Palestinians?
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:35 AM
Aug 2021

brush

(54,002 posts)
2. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. What a concept.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:42 AM
Aug 2021

Never heard it put so precisely and to the point.

An undeniable point.

bottomofthehill

(8,370 posts)
3. We have not spent 20 years and a trillion dollars
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:43 AM
Aug 2021

Occupying, training and arming the Palestinians, standing up their government, building their infrastructure and trying to make a better life for them. Maybe we should, although one of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

madaboutharry

(40,250 posts)
5. That is some reach you just made.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:57 AM
Aug 2021

The two situations are so dissimilar it takes a good bit of twisting to compare them, but I knew someone would try.

no_hypocrisy

(46,378 posts)
6. False equivalent
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:01 AM
Aug 2021
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
7. Palestinians are fighting Hamas?
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:13 AM
Aug 2021

Please share your source as this is an exciting and needed development!

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
8. Apples & oranges.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:23 AM
Aug 2021

marble falls

(57,834 posts)
10. Who we are ...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:34 AM
Aug 2021

brush

(54,002 posts)
12. It's not about having spent a trillion dollars, or they're fighting...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:47 AM
Aug 2021

Hamas, or being trained for twenty years, it's a simple observation, a comparison between how the Palestinians have been fighting for their land for way more that twenty years against what in many areas is, let's face it, apartheid, while the Afghani army and government had a trillion dollars invested in their training and equipment to fight for their land but refused to do so when the time came to do it.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
13. Most people don't have a clearly defined ethos.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

But they do know how to play team sports.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. It is Afghans fighting Afghans. It is more analogous to the civil war between the PA and Hamas
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

Hamas certainly treats its opponents like the Taliban does.

crickets

(26,005 posts)
15. I'm not angry at Palestinians. Speak for yourself. nt
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:49 AM
Aug 2021

Elessar Zappa

(14,164 posts)
16. Not the same thing.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:50 AM
Aug 2021

At all. To compare Israel to the Taliban is ludicrous.

Mosby

(16,448 posts)
17. Good question
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:50 AM
Aug 2021

lapucelle

(18,423 posts)
18. Locking as off topic.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:51 AM
Aug 2021

Please continue the discussion in the Israel/Palestine Group.

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