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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:25 PM Jul 2021

Restaurant workers are quitting in the middle of their shifts, reports say.

The sector is facing an uphill battle to retain workers amid the labor shortage.

An employee at a chain restaurant in Phoenix, Arizona, told CNN Business that fellow staffers were sometimes "just walking out in the middle of their shifts" amid the US labor shortage.

"[Hostesses who] seat the tables, the dishwashers, the bussers ... they'll walk out," a server at Cheddar's Scratch Kitchen told the news network.

The story amounted to the latest in a series of dispatches from the frontlines of American restaurants, which have been struggling to attract employees as the world slowly returns to normalcy.

Workers have been leaving their jobs at high rates, giving job seekers all the power this summer. About 75% of independent restaurants said they were struggling to attract staff. Some have had to temporarily close because of staff shortages.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/restaurant-workers-are-quitting-in-the-middle-of-their-shifts-reports-say-the-sector-is-facing-an-uphill-battle-to-retain-workers-amid-the-labor-shortage/ar-AAMvwOF

I did restaurant work. You work hard for very little money.
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Restaurant workers are quitting in the middle of their shifts, reports say. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
That industry has to change its whole wage structure. brush Jul 2021 #1
+1 pandr32 Jul 2021 #2
I'm waiting for Republicans to introduce bills making this illegal. jalan48 Jul 2021 #3
with some cute little name like the "Protect the American family's right to food" act Takket Jul 2021 #15
Yes, how dare workers adversely affect the rights of consumers! jalan48 Jul 2021 #16
That's how the ruling classes dealt with labor shortages after the Black Death DBoon Jul 2021 #22
Interesting bit of history. The ruling class makes the rules and all we are left with is outrage. jalan48 Jul 2021 #24
And it didn't work . . especially when the Plague returned, as it did, again and again . . . hatrack Jul 2021 #25
The family restaurant has no problems with employees RainCaster Jul 2021 #4
What family restaurant has servers making "more than $45/hr"? Arazi Jul 2021 #8
Sounds like RC is including tips. Igel Jul 2021 #18
A family restaurant where the servers make $85k plus per year? Arazi Jul 2021 #21
Not a family restaurant, but a restaurant in my family RainCaster Jul 2021 #31
And they make $45/hour? I too have restaurant owners and servers in my family Arazi Jul 2021 #33
Eastern Washington state RainCaster Jul 2021 #35
Let's try to retain restaurant workers by NCjack Jul 2021 #5
This has happened in Germany as well, and not just in restaurants DFW Jul 2021 #6
i remember reading on du where people on a bus wouldnt give a seat to a man in AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #11
I remember that, too. I think it was indeed in France. DFW Jul 2021 #13
They deserve a FT SALARY, with OT and benefits obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #7
So apparently treating your employees like shit Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #9
Younger son is working as a dishwasher. They are shorthanded in GPV Jul 2021 #10
tipping in this country came after the civil war when the blacks were set free. AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #12
Got a haircut yesterday. milestogo Jul 2021 #14
just got me haircut... my wife and i both went to the same spa... Takket Jul 2021 #30
Remember Herman Cain had a lot to do with it. Asshat. flying_wahini Jul 2021 #17
With no joy in my heart, I have to say KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #27
As a customer, I resent being saddled with the responsibility of deciding how much to pay people. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #19
My grandfather told me about doing the same trick, but with quarters instead of dollars. Bucky Jul 2021 #23
Exactly. US restaurants are set up like strip clubs for sadists and the terminally petty. meadowlander Jul 2021 #28
I'm astounded you went out to a restaurant more than once with this idiot. Treefrog Jul 2021 #29
Family. What are you gonna do? Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #32
the same you would do if they weren't family Skittles Jul 2021 #37
That's from Third Rock From the Sun Polybius Jul 2021 #34
WTF Skittles Jul 2021 #36
Considering going back Tink41 Jul 2021 #20
Kill off tipping. Pay $15 minimum - appreciate workers - problem solved. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #26

brush

(53,778 posts)
1. That industry has to change its whole wage structure.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jul 2021

People are tired of having to depend on tips for the bulk of their compensation.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
15. with some cute little name like the "Protect the American family's right to food" act
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:21 PM
Jul 2021

or some such bullshit

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
22. That's how the ruling classes dealt with labor shortages after the Black Death
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jul 2021

Made it illegal to pay more - effectively froze wages

Within a year of the onset of plague, during 1349, an Ordinance of Labourers was issued and this became the Statute of Labourers in 1351. This law sought to prevent labourers from obtaining higher wages. Despite the shortage in the workforce caused by the plague, workers were ordered to take wages at the levels achieved pre-plague.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/middle_ages/black_impact_01.shtml

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
24. Interesting bit of history. The ruling class makes the rules and all we are left with is outrage.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

RainCaster

(10,874 posts)
4. The family restaurant has no problems with employees
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jul 2021

The wait staff are pulling down more than $45 an hour right now. People are more generous with their tips these days. They did bump the pay for the kitchen help, because they have been so loyal.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
18. Sounds like RC is including tips.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jul 2021

When I was a dishwasher even though tipping was at a lower recommended level than now, the waitresses made substantially more than I did even though their minimum wage was substantially less. Don't know if they made more than I earned as line cook.

It's not guaranteed, and there are IRS reporting weirdnesses with it that I never bothered to look at (and which probably have changed significantly numerous times since then).

Where you wait and when you wait often has a big role in determining your take-home pay.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
21. A family restaurant where the servers make $85k plus per year?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:13 PM
Jul 2021

So now I ask you and RC what family restaurants you worked at where servers made that kind of bank?

RainCaster

(10,874 posts)
31. Not a family restaurant, but a restaurant in my family
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jul 2021

It's actually an Irish pub. Nobody works 40 hours in the wait staff, and they like it that way. They have families, other jobs, etc. Most work 3 or 4 shifts a week.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
33. And they make $45/hour? I too have restaurant owners and servers in my family
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jul 2021

And I've never heard of any server making that kind of money which is why I'm curious where this is exactly.

RainCaster

(10,874 posts)
35. Eastern Washington state
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:00 PM
Jul 2021

You will not get any more details than that. They have no desire to hire more help. Certainly not anyone who is drawn in by the tips.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. Let's try to retain restaurant workers by
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jul 2021

a. Over-paying the workers.
b. Encouraging them to TIP courteous diners, e.g., with 5, 10, 15 or 20% discounts. Even greater percentages for those who wear sexy clothes, etc.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
6. This has happened in Germany as well, and not just in restaurants
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jul 2021

Streetcar drivers, harassed by noisy, unruly crowds, racial epithets, and long hours for little pay, have been known to quit in the middle of a route, their nerves stressed beyond the breaking point. They yell to their passengers to calm down or stay put in a driver-less streetcar. When they tell the driver to fuck off (as often happens) some have actually opened the door and walked away, leaving their gaping passengers stranded.

AllaN01Bear

(18,216 posts)
11. i remember reading on du where people on a bus wouldnt give a seat to a man in
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jul 2021

a wheelchair and the bus driver screamed terminus fini or end of the line . the people on the bus got of except the one in the wheel chair and the bus drove off.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
13. I remember that, too. I think it was indeed in France.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jul 2021

Heartless people abound, and no borders restrict their distribution.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
7. They deserve a FT SALARY, with OT and benefits
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jul 2021

Real benefits.

I did this job while in college. All of my paychecks were for a few cents,a nd I was taxed for tips I didn't make. Half the time they would send me home in the middle of a shift to save money. People are also rude AF.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
9. So apparently treating your employees like shit
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jul 2021

allowing your customers to do likewise, paying crappy wages, and having awful schedules that change at the drop of a hat wasn’t a good long term plan, who’d a thunk? I did almost 15 years in food and beverage. You better really like people and have a hide like a rhino.

GPV

(72,377 posts)
10. Younger son is working as a dishwasher. They are shorthanded in
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jul 2021

all areas plus struggling with maintenance issues. Some of the hires are sketchy, don't show up on time or leave super early. People keep quitting or threatening to. I've considered going down to help out, but hubby think it's best if kiddo doesn't have family on the job.

AllaN01Bear

(18,216 posts)
12. tipping in this country came after the civil war when the blacks were set free.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

the national restraunt association didnt want to pay them their wages but rather us .apperently there was a huge backlash on tipping but didnt last . we are stuck with it.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
14. Got a haircut yesterday.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jul 2021

Beautician told me that she works 10 hrs a day, 7 days a week. There were only 2 beauticians in the shop on a Saturday. Apparently its an industry-wide shortage. I was surprised, I thought there were lots of beauticians around.

And the prices went way up.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
30. just got me haircut... my wife and i both went to the same spa...
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 04:27 PM
Jul 2021

her stylist told her the same thing. they are struggling to keep up with demand because they are low on stylists.

flying_wahini

(6,594 posts)
17. Remember Herman Cain had a lot to do with it. Asshat.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:25 PM
Jul 2021

[link:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/herman-cains-enduring-lobbying-triumph/|

America’s first minimum-wage law, passed by Congress in 1938, allowed states to set a lower wage for tipped workers, but it wasn’t until the ’60s that labor advocates persuaded Congress to adopt a federal tipped minimum wage that increased in tandem with the regular minimum wage. In 1996, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain, who was then head of the National Restaurant Association, helped convince a Republican-led Congress to decouple the two wages. The tipped minimum has been stuck at $2.13 ever since.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
27. With no joy in my heart, I have to say
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jul 2021

I hope that son of a bitch is rotting ...

There are very few people I genuinely despise. He's one. I'd spit on his grave and not feel bad.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
19. As a customer, I resent being saddled with the responsibility of deciding how much to pay people.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jul 2021

That should be the responsibility of the business, not the customer.

I know a guy, when we go to a restaurant, he stacks 20 one dollar bills on the table. When the waiter comes, he tells him that the twenty bucks is his, but every time the waiter does something wrong, he will remove a dollar from the table. Then, if the waiter sets something down in the "wrong" place, or doesn't refill his drink promptly enough, or finds a spot on his silverware, or whatever, he starts taking away bills.

I will no longer go out anywhere with this prick. He is well to do and gets a kick out of screwing with and lecturing hard working people.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
23. My grandfather told me about doing the same trick, but with quarters instead of dollars.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jul 2021

Even as a kid I thought that was a dick move. But yes, an industry that makes it staff work for tips encourages this sort of dickishness.

One of the biggest downsides in service industry is dealing with customers who get off on control and manipulation issues. And drunks. And angry managers.

I suppose the risk of catching covid-19 from inconsiderate diner who thinks they're fighting fascism by not wearing a mask is another downside.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
28. Exactly. US restaurants are set up like strip clubs for sadists and the terminally petty.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:54 PM
Jul 2021

What reasonably successful and secure person actually wants their meal interrupted sixteen times by a waitperson being forced to perform their subjection?

What actually matters in a restaurant experience? Being seated promptly (not in the waitresses control), having your order taken promptly (sometimes in the waitresses control, sometimes not when there are staffing shortages), getting your food in a timely manner (mostly not in the waitresses control), tasty food that is the right temperature (not in the waitresses control), the restaurant being clean and sanitary (not in waitresses control), get your check in a timely manner (same as order taking).

So at the end of the meal, you're being asked to assign a cash value to the waitress' performance when only two of the factors are even marginally in their control.

Does your restaurant experience hinge on a stranger making less than the minimum wage sucking up to you and pretending to be interested in your banter? Then you really need to reexamine your life and priorities.

Please can we make 2021/2022 the year that we get over tipping in the US and just pay waitpeople a living wage in the first place? If there's one genuinely good thing that can come out of the pandemic, let's make it that.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
29. I'm astounded you went out to a restaurant more than once with this idiot.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 04:00 PM
Jul 2021

I must live a charmed life that I’ve never known anyone even remotely like that. U

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
36. WTF
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jul 2021

I would not even be SEEN with that guy, let alone DINE with him....can you even imagine how many "extra ingredients" ended up in his food?

Tink41

(537 posts)
20. Considering going back
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:03 PM
Jul 2021

To take advantage of the employee shortage. I'm old for a waitress, but due to my real career I can withstand less than optimal conditions, and I loved the money! Few years ago I couldn't buy my way in to a server job, now I think theyd pay me!!!

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
26. Kill off tipping. Pay $15 minimum - appreciate workers - problem solved.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 03:40 PM
Jul 2021

Crappy pay
Crappy management
Crappy Customers.

People go out to eat so much because kitchen work is by nature hot, sweaty, dirty and mostly no fun. Add it mean bosses, weird co-workers - rude customers - and the risk of dying from the plague....

eh ... NO.

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