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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe 4th really brought out the Trumper jerks.
I knew they were there. I didn't know it was their God given right to own guns and set off fireworks. Fireworks are illegal here. 5 houses burned. The fire dept went out on 23 calls. The ERs filled up with burn victims. One man had his hand amputated. Most visits were injuries to hands and eyes.
In Trump world the right to set off fireworks Trumps all that. They just don't care. The 4th afterall is a celebration of their rights. They are PATRIOTS fighting for the future of their country.
I am so tired of jerks who think it's ok to say whatever horrible thing they think and break whatever law they don't agree with.
It is so evident on FB. So many horrible offensive comments.
PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Most excellent if they cause harm to others that is a tragedy of course .
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,172 posts)Terrorist organizations like al Qaeda and the Taliban and members of drug cartels.
LaMouffette
(2,036 posts)after a decades-long ban on them. We're in a drought. We've been having temps in the 100s. So of course the Repubs wanted to make the risk of forest fires even greater.
All I can think is that they want the forests to burn so that they can have timber sales afterward.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)clandestine strongholds in the mountains catch fire while they are holed up in them. I went for a drive in the Castle Mts. last week and it is full of Ruby Ridge houses, ATVs and cows*. It was awful and I was afraid the whole mountain range would go up in flames before I could get back to the highway.
And I saw TFG floats all dressed up for the parade at the county seat. I decided to stay away from the crowds this year and kept well away from the parade route while I was in town.
TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts).
Just wait until they get their 1AM forest fires to handle.
Oh, but then they'll be calling out those socialist US Forestry types to bail them out of it.
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2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Is not available to them when it comes to safety.
LaMouffette
(2,036 posts)To see a whole float done up in his honor would just about do me in. You were wise to stay away from the parade.
wnylib
(21,485 posts)It sounds like molotov cocktails, but that can't be right.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Small missile-like firecrackers on sticks. You use the bottle to launch them.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)in a bottle and light it and it flies up into the sky and comes down wherever. I think they cause most house fires because the land on roofs.
ProfessorGAC
(65,069 posts)...(this neighbor moved a while back) we'd go out for days before & after the 4th and would pick up bottle rocket guts all over the yard. All the other neighbors did the same.
This guy would fire a few hundred over the course of 6 or 7 days, and let everyone else clean up his mess.
Fortunately, no major damage was ever done.
On that didn't go off, but burned when it came down did ruin one of our rose bushes though.
I called him on it, and he did buy us a new one. 4" tall, when the one we lost was 3 FEET tall.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)wnylib
(21,485 posts)I might have been tempted to unload a pile of trash in his yard.
Or, at least dump the collected remains of his botte rockets on his front lawn.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Stick it in a bottle, light it and aim. The extra drunk ones wont even waste time using a bottle.
tanyev
(42,566 posts)That's the biggest drawback.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)He was sitting in a hot tub, when he was hit in the chest with a mortar round.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)wnylib
(21,485 posts)How times have changed since my wedding.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)The deplorables figured one didn't count because it was not established that it was fireworks. 8 people got out but their 3 dogs died. That would be so traumatic and completely devastating.
The smaller fires didn't count either. But the fireworks have to go out on each one and that costs a lot of taxpayer money.
nuxvomica
(12,429 posts)Imagine the horrors such people would face in quiet self-reflection! Yikes!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)It's so hard to deal with all this ignorance and stupidity and rudeness.
And this is KCMO where it is mild compared to other places.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)Until this country sees the republican party for the half assed chrisofacist authoritian party it is, and stop with all the both sides are the same bullshit, we have not chance of pulling out of this tailspin. Even if we do, everyone has to get on the same page and vote like their lives depend on it for the rest of their lives.
The stupid in this country is DEFCON 1 level.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Fucking assholes.
IronLionZion
(45,451 posts)started by idiots playing with fireworks in the most irresponsible way as is their Trumped up right.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)These people get off on being obnoxious and offensive.
I never engage but it still upsets me.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)They have no idea there is a flag code and them wearing the flag as clothing and flying it off the back if their truck makes very Boy Scout who ever was wince and Im sure there are vets who disgusted by their flag disrespect too.
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leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)patriots that are saving the country from total destruction.
They don't have a clue that they are supporting the fall of our democracy.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Seriously? Now everything is letting Trump dimwits control our enjoyment? We went to a town block party on the 4th. All the kids laughing, bounce houses, games, a local Beatles tribute band played. People either vaccinated and/or masked. Having fun, smiling again. Then everyone gathered on blankets and watched a great fireworks show.
Geez....who care what 'Trumpers' do on the 4th. Yawn already. Enjoy life and fight them tooth and nail through community organizing and fighting for voting rights.
But not everything is about them and their effect. The 4th could be enjoyed while ignoring them.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)insanity.
LaMouffette
(2,036 posts)or even when responsible, fairly sober individuals shoot them off, as long as weather and drought conditions don't make it dangerous, and if the more dangerous fireworks are kept out of the hands of idiots. We were camping in a heavily forested campground a few years ago and actually witnessed a bottle rocket start the top of a huge Ponderosa pine on fire. It could've started the whole forest ablaze if the fire department hadn't made it there so quickly.
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)I think I see why fireworks are illegal there.
They're technically illegal here in Ohio too, but police don't care if they're set off around the fourth during normal hours. Next year they'll be completely legal here. I grew up here and it's fun, not something associated with the right in any way. It's something we've done all my life, and I don't know anyone who suffered serious injury requiring a hospital visit.
I'd bet people who motocross dirt bikes or play softball suffer more trips to the ER than someone lighting a string of firecrackers. I sat on the porch this year as several grandkids launched bottle rockets across the yard like I did at their age. Whizzz *POP*. Good clean fun, and had no idea it didn't fit the liberal agenda.
I live 8 miles from the largest fireworks warehouse in North America, so maybe a few skyrockets and Black Cats don't seem as dangerous as a chain smoking truck driver at Phantom Fireworks.
Five houses burned? What is wrong with people in your area?
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)in MO a guy was making fireworks in his side of the duplex he lived in and blew the place up. Unfortunately the family in the other side of the duplex was injured because his stupidity. The guy making fireworks wont be making them any longer if you get my drift.
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)...but what they're making are illegal in all 50 states, and should be. They aren't "fireworks".
They're M-80s and M-100s. M-100s (Silver Salutes) are akin to a third of a stick of dynamite and are about 3 inches long and an inch in diameter. People ostensibly use them for pest control and illegal fishing because they explode under water, but they make a hell of a boom on the fourth. Regular fireworks made in China are too affordable to bother making them at home.
People make them in their garage with black powder, glue and wax soaked heavy cardboard tubes. They go for $5 to $10 and up if you can find them. Obviously when there are several pounds of powder and a stove to melt wax, accidents happen and it's sad. I've asked my kids to resist the temptation of easy money.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)it for a fact, but have a feeling he was making them to sell. It was only a mile away from me and likely heard it, but there had been so many loud booms it didnt register until the ladder truck and police went by my house-live on a main road that police and fire trucks take all the time.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,252 posts)when a friend of mine came back from nam, for 5 years he couldnt handle new years and the 4th of july . when he sits in a restraunt , he perfers to have his back facing the window and carries a vail of emergency meds at all times. sad. when i was little , we had to tranq our dog 3 days ahead of the 4th and that still wasnt enough. sigh.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)of reasons. They are horrible for dog owners. They are horrible for the environment. They are terrible risks in fire country.
And for what? So you can spend a lot of money to watch something go bang for 2 seconds?
Go to the public displays. They are beautiful and they don't drive your neighbors crazy.
albacore
(2,399 posts)That's the Murikan way! Lots of show... shiny F-35s...flags everywhere..."Patriots" everywhere.... Lee Greenwood singing...
Paying for... and cleaning up after.... NOT so much.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)I have to comfort my dogs from the 2nd to the 5th during this time of year. Same state, middle.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)They will not set a foot outside if they can hear fireworks anywhere. Even off in the distance.
Rebl2
(13,523 posts)live where I do-KC area. Actually I am in a suburb that unfortunately a few years back decided to allow fireworks again. They made them illegal for a time in the 90s then changed their minds about 10 years ago. Oh we also heard rapid gun fire somewhere.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Fruday night it was 2 am. Saturday it was 3 am. Sunday night was 3 am.
Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)live in your mind. They would get off on knowing that.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Just being around them is depressing.