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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn this day, July 4, three of the first five presidents died. Jefferson and Adams in 1826, and
Monroe in 1831.
Harker
(14,129 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)quaint
(2,602 posts)Watching my karma
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,362 posts)Happy 4th!
quaint
(2,602 posts)He had to sell his library to the government to help him stay financially afloat. It became the core collection of what was to become the Library of Congress.
Thom Hartmann could fill in a lot more detail. He is a real Jefferson scholar.
quaint
(2,602 posts)Some authors even rely on and credit his research.
DFW
(54,506 posts)Hartmann even mentioned my book on his show, and my citing one of his books in the credits.
(Thom, if you're reading this, I haven't forgotten!)
quaint
(2,602 posts)I havent adjusted to the time change yet
niyad
(113,961 posts)50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
Adam's was 90, a remarkable age at the time.
DFW
(54,506 posts)Ironically, on the day they died, Adams is quoted as saying "at least Jefferson still survives."
rurallib
(62,483 posts)on July 4, 1826 - I believe Adams son John Quincy was president at that time.
Boomerproud
(7,985 posts)"Is it the 4th? Thomas Jefferson lives.' Of course he had no way of knowing that Jefferson had died 5 hours beforehand.
DFW
(54,506 posts)But they all basically convey the same irony
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,860 posts)... after Jefferson won the 1800 Presidency, and they never fully regained their earlier friendship.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/04/us/john-adams-thomas-jefferson-frenemies-trnd/index.html
The South had an unfair electoral college advantage because of their many slaves who counted as 3/5ths of a person for calculating the representatives of each state.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1800_United_States_presidential_election
That advantage trickled down in several other ways too, such as a later majority of Southerners in the Supreme Court during their Dred Scott decision.
Reminds me of Republican advantages today, in terms of rural voters being more represented.
Boomerproud
(7,985 posts)didn't care for Jefferson being a slaveowner.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,860 posts)The Northerners should've never agreed to a compromise with South Carolina's Pinckney when the Constitution was written in 1787. The 3/5th clause probably helped prolong later problems.
DFW
(54,506 posts)But when they resumed contact, their epistolary correspondence is legendary